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  1. I know its all hypothetical, but the IOC would never strip a city of the Olympics because of your Athens to LA situation, and by that I mean taking about the Salt Lake City Games. Also, Beijing could never win by beating Toronto by 3 votes and San Francisco by 4 votes. Those margins are too close to allow any city to get a majority. And a majority of votes is needed, not just a higher vote count. But so far, this has been a fun thread...
  2. Calatrava actually did the communications tower on Montjuic by the Stadium. But look at the colourful story of Olympic architecture...the Jordi in Barcelona was designed by a Japanese architect, a Swiss firm designed Beijing's stadium, and Montreal's Stade Olympique is a Paris design.
  3. My god...Barcelona is so beautiful.
  4. Actually, this is kind of hard...if Athens had won 1996, Toronto could have made a decent stab at either 2000 or 2004. Europe would have been hard pressed to get a Games until 2012 with two back to back in the 1990's and the USOC probably wouldn't have kept Atlanta for very long. And then there's the Winter dynamic. So here goes... Athens wins 1996...OK. With no American host right before it, Salt Lake easily wins 1998. Sydney, Beijing, Istanbul, Atlanta and Toronto bid for 2000 with no Europeans in the race (they know with Barcelona and Athens before them, they can't hope to win). The
  5. Montreal Opening Ceremony - Highlights Saturday afternoon at 3:00pm on July 17, 1976, trumpeters sound out the call at Stade Olympique as the flags of the 132 member countries of the IOC are hoisted. The announcer calls out “Mesdames, messieurs, Sa Majesté la Reine. Ladies and gentlemen, Her Majesty the Queen.” The 73,000 in attendance cheer on the arrival of the Queen, accompanied by the Duke of Edinburgh, and her son, Prince Andrew. IOC President Lord Killanin, COJO President Roger Rousseau, and other dignitaries greet the Queen in the Royal Box. The Queen is seated next to Jules Léger,
  6. I'm adding my voice to "General Olympics"...can't read anything and there was a discussion that I started that I'm dying to see. Is this really a problem at my end, because "General Olympics" is the only place I encounter this?
  7. Oh, almost forgot. One of the zaniest ideas for Expo 67 was to "borrow" the Eiffle Tower for the 6 month World's Fair and put it up in Montreal. The estimated cost was $12 million...much cheaper than building a tower. The deal was almost struck, except at the last minute that the owners of the Eiffle Tower backed out over fears that if they moved the tower, they might not be allowed to reassemble it Paris. Drapeau really wanted that tower!
  8. He had that even before Expo...
  9. In case you were ever wondering why they chose a design with a stadium and tower at Montreal's Olympic complex, the answer is pretty simple....Mayor Drapeau. For the Olympics, Montreal required a new stadium. While the IOC required an open air stadium for athletics, Montreal's after Games use for the stadium (baseball, concerts, big events) required that it have some form of protection against the harsh winters of the region. Hence, the idea of a retractable roof. Now while this would be the worlds first fully retractable roof stadium, there were other technologies available in the 1970's
  10. That's true. The old US pavillion (which was very popular with visitors to Expo but generally hated by Americans) is now called the Biosphere and is dedicated to the environment. Another Expo site still in use is the French pavillion, now the Montreal Casino. As for the Montreal Tower, it will probably not face the wrecking ball, as it was recently leased to a consortium for 99 years - they are renovating the upper floors for office space.
  11. I've seen the artwork but don't know where it is...its got a yellow background and all the flags of the world. As for the stadium, I really don't think they will tear it down for a very long time, if ever. Despite the problems and the cost, it has become the city's signature landmark building. And with no plans to build a new stadium, I don't think they will implode the Big O. The Expos may not draw huge crowds, but the stadium still has many events - concerts, tradeshows, conventions...the stadium is multipurpose and a tourist attraction. The analogy to the Eiffle Tower holds some ground
  12. For more information on the Montreal Olympics, try this link. CBC Archives - the Games of Montreal The video and audio clips give a feel for what people thought of the Games, before, during and after and certainly demonstrate that the biggest problem encountered by the Montreal Games are the inflated egos of its backers and the corrupt ambitions of its builders. The video archive on Taillibert also features a young journalist reporting on the extravagances of the Games and its architecture would ironically, some 25 years after the Montreal Games would be questioned about her extravagances..
  13. From what I could tell, the only new facilities built for 1976 were the massive Olympic complex (stadium, pool, & velodrome), the Olympic Village and the Olympic Basin (rowing & kayaking) near the old Expo site. The Stadium of course hosted the ceremonies, athletics, soccer and possibly the final equestrian event. The pool held all aquatic events and the velodrome had the cycling time trials. Shooting and archery were in the small town of Joliette. Sailing was in Kingston, Ontario. Bromont hosted the equestrian events. Other existing facilities were used - Molson Stadium at McGil
  14. The Games invest huge amounts in security following a terrorist attack (the Munich hostage taking for the 1976 Games, the September 11, 2001 attacks for the 2004 Games)
  15. Montreal and Athens have a lot in common... 1/1/1976 - The velodrome is complete 2/2/1976 - Organizers reassure the IOC that the project will be ready 8/2/1976 - the final piece of the roof is installed (the "concrete awning", not the fabric roof) 29/3/1976 - the technical ring around the roof is complete (includes lighting etc) 7/4/1976 - the track and grass are installed in the stadium 15/4/1976 - the aquatic centre is finished. 10/5/1976 - the video screens and seats are installed in the stadium 15/5/1976 - the Olympic Village is complete 9/7/1976 - all construction at the Stadium
  16. Oh, by the way here's the link to the new site. Montreal - la Régie des installations olympiques (RIO) The Montreal cauldron will burn during the period of the Athens Games as a symbol of the fraternity of Olympic host cities.
  17. The reason for the high costs and the reason the tower wasn't compete in time are the same - a labour dispute compounded by a brutal Montreal winter mixed in with a difficult piece of architecture and thrown together with corruption, recession and political intrigue. Their make-up schedule made Athens look like a picnic. This is what Stade Olympique looked like in 1975 - just one year before the Opening Ceremony. For the record, the Government of Quebec, which owns/operates Stade Olympique, just completely re-did the website (en francais seulement pour maintenant) and it is a HUGE improve
  18. I think Montrealers are raised to hate that stadium. I think it was the cost that lingers with them and perhaps the arrogance that surrounded it, but other cities have had similar projects with similar results and similar egos but don't seem to hold as much bitterness as Montrealers do toward Stade Olympique. There are many people in the world that think it is a wonderful piece of architecture and the marvel that Drapeau and Taillibert intended. Nearly every travel book I've ever on the topic of Montreal mentions it as one of the top attractions in the city. Too bad - the city should reali
  19. I find it so strange that the Montreal Games ended up costing as much as they did and being as behind schedule as they were because it was only 9 years earlier that the city welcomed the world to the 6 month birthday party that was Expo 67. Montreal's Olympics are often considered a failure while Man and His World, the sweeping theme for Expo, was a wickedly brilliant succes - perhaps the most successful of the 20th century. For Expo, they even built islands in the middle of the Saint Lawrence River, a whole new subway line and all within a few short years. The city attracted global attenti
  20. The Facilities. Scale model of the Olympic Complex. Model of Stade Olympique. Model of the Velodrome. Model of the Olympic Village. The Olympic Village at Games time. The Olympic Complex...with its unfinished tower. Inside the boxing venue.
  21. I found a great cache of photos from the Montreal Olympics...Enjoy! The Opening Ceremony, July 17, 1976. Team Canada nears Stade Olympique. Team Canada rounds out the Athletes Parade. The Olympic flag is carried around the track at Stade Olympique. The flag is hoisted. And the flame is lit. Flag bearers prepare to take the Olympic Oath. The flame burns beneath the giant ring of the stadium's roof.
  22. I think the 1988 Seoul Games get overlooked a lot in discussions on GamesBids.com. We always talk about the terrorist attacks in Munich and Atlanta, the financial disaster of Montreal and how LA turned it around, the boycott years of Montreal, Moscow and LA, the huge success of Barcelona and Sydney, the construction worries of Montreal and Athens, the commercialization of Atlanta, and the impact that all of these things have had on the city, the country and the Olympic movement, but rarely do we ever mention the Seoul Games.
  23. If there is any truth in the idea that hosting a successful Olympic Games can be a positive thing for a city, it is Barcelona's hosting of the Games of the XXV Olympiad in 1992. The city's prestige, fame and popularity has soared upward like that firey arrow did 12 years ago. Clearly, the Olympics changed the city for the better.
  24. What a great resource for information on the '88 Games. I love how they detailed the Opening & Closing Ceremonies. I wish there were other sites like this out there for other past games - especially ones I have always been curious to see, like the ones before 1984 (my first Olympic experience was the LA Games).
  25. Most of the stadia see some use. Soccer games, track meets, concerts and other special events fill up the roster. Berlin's has long been used and will be upgraded in time to host WC 2006. London's Wembly has been demolished and is due for reconstruction. Helsinki's has been used for track meets such as World Champs. Melbourne's is a cricket ground. Rome's and Munich's are used for track meets and soccer matches - World Champs in both have been held there. Mexico's main stadium is part of the university campus. Montreal's is the most used - for baseball, the Grey Cup, trade shows, conve
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