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  1. Am I missing something? I don't see anything anywhere that says Fisht Olympic Stadium has a fully enclosed roof. It looks to me more like a smaller Stadium Australia or Olympic at OAKA in Athens in form than the old BC Place design. Two arches the cover the stands with openings on either end. The roof above those two arches is also translucent and quite high up. A cauldron at either end of the stadium would be easily visible from within.
  2. Are you sure of that? Skip to the 21:00 minute mark: http://youtu.be/7ErdCb9rIbY Moscow 1980 Opening Ceremony For Sochi, I highly doubt an indoor/outdoor style cauldron. That was just something that had to be done for Vancouver 2010 because of the old stadium roof.
  3. And with its buildup, suspense, flourish of joy and drama, the finale to Stravinsky's Firebird Suite certainly sounds like the kind of music you would use for lighting the Olympic flame. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW4PuJYRIHI If that is the case, then Russian-composed music would have been used at that pivotal moment for at least at three or four Olympic Games. 2002 - Salt Lake City, Shostakovich's 5th Symphony 2004 - Athens, Shostakovich's Pirogov Suite And I'm sure a Russian composed the piece used for Moscow 1980, but it was probably specially written for the event...I don't recogn
  4. In Olympic votes, opposition is generally louder than support.
  5. I think at one point, Quebec City was going to propose hosting the downhill events at the 1988 facility in Alberta, nearly 4000 kilometers away! Stockholm is at a disadvantage here, but I'm fairly confident the IOC will let them through to the candidate phase, although they might grumble a bit about the distance.
  6. Ah, but in Russia, you have the might of the government to get things done. In Quebec, you have the might of the unions to keep things down. And in both, you have the might of the mafia to corrupt it all.
  7. I didn't think the stadium was domed...big awnings like the Beijing Birds Nest, but open on both sides facing the sea and the mountains.
  8. Or the Paris-Montreal Tower proposed for Expo 67 (which like the 76 stadium tower, was backed by Mayor Jean Drapeau)? Interesting...have we ever seen a cauldron exposed this early before?
  9. Yeah, but but we are talking about 125 kilometers vs. 600 kilometers. In 2003, the IOC expressed concern that 125 kilometers was "too far", but they went with it and Vancouver welcomed the world in 2010. And while the current proposal is that Are would only host the Alpine events, the Swedes do have a greater distance to overcome. It doesn't outright kill their bid from the start, but it sets them back. The rest of the bid will have to be phenomenal to overcome that distance (which I'm sure it will be). The IOC has accepted quirkier projects (although all were rejected in the end) - Helsinki
  10. I think a lot of people actually love the idea of Sweden hosting the Winter Olympics. It is just such a natural fit - like Switzerland or Canada, Norway or Austria. But the problem is that Are is the only ski resort in the country that can host the downhill competition. And it is quite remote. Stockholm to Are is 600 kilometers. Ostersund is closer to Are, only 100 kilometers, but of course, they are smaller. This is not a small matter to overcome. The 125 kilometer distance from Vancouver to Whistler was seen as a challenge for the 2010 Games (although the local mountain at Cypress turned out
  11. Italy should just say no for now. If you're broke, you don't buy a Ferrari.
  12. Given the state of Olympic branding, Munich will be a shoo-in for 2022.
  13. Nothing is guaranteed and how and when you win an Olympic bid depends on timing and the quality of your competitors.
  14. No. Not at all. But Madrid 2012, 2016, 2020 is like Toronto's bid for 1996 and then bidding for 2000 and 2004 all just 20-30 years after Montreal 1976. Or if Sydney had put in bids for 1976, 1980 or 1984 after Melbourne 1956. A good potential host of a future Olympics, but emphasis on the word future. More time needs to pass. Just as Sydney 2000 proved. Madrid is wise to pull out of the race for 2024.
  15. Nah, there were no real big surprises. Maybe that Madrid and Istanbul tied. And clearly, that didn't matter either. But this was one of those IOC sessions that when you look back, it just all makes sense.
  16. Calgary business and sport leaders can jostle all they like but if they don't get the support of the Canadian Olympic Committee, they won't be bidding on anything. I get the sense that for the COC's future hosting aspirations, a Summer in Toronto is the bigger priority. It is the tougher of the two Games to land. And even if Toronto wins a Summer Games, it will still be easier for Canada to land a future Winter Games shortly thereafter. Not so much the other way around. There aren't many Winter host potentials, and Calgary 1988 were both successful Games and Games that elevated the profile of
  17. First Olympic gold medalist to head the IOC. Bach won a team fencing gold in Montreal.
  18. A very good point indeed. The Olympics of 1900 and 1924 don't come close to anything like the Games of today.
  19. I travelled to Japan in 2010 and what I found was a country that had incredible order and organization, a country that could be delicate, serious, serene and introspective, a country that had history and modernity...and then turn around the next corner and you found a country that was chaotic, kooky, giddy, cute, goofy, silly, crazy and mind boggling. 2020 won't be 1964.
  20. I also wonder if Tokyo 2020 kills any hopes of the so-called Paris 2024 bid. I mean a twice host backed by a three-times host? Not sure that will happen.
  21. Don't put too much faith in South Africa's chances. They are about the same as Turkey's and Spain's.
  22. I supported Istanbul in my heart, but Tokyo was a safe alternate. There is a time for the IOC to throw the dice and gamble a bit, and a time to play safe. With the upcoming Games in Sochi, Rio and PC, the IOC took three gambles in a row. A fourth was just too much. I hope Madrid has learned a lesson - still too soon after Barcelona 1992 for a country of Spain's size and economy to pull this off - and that they don't bid again for a long time. Even as time goes by, their numbers are dropping. As for Istanbul, can't really predict what their future bid ambitions should be. Maybe 2024? Maybe ho
  23. I don't believe for a minute that IOC voters vote in continental or linguistic blocs. This isn't Olympivision or Olympic Idol. They vote based on their own individual assessment of what is best for the movement, sport, the athletes, the federations, and other considerations. Sometimes they are moved by the narrative. Sometimes, pragmatism takes over.
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