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  1. Curious...of those of you who are pretty much handing the 2024 Games to South Africa, how many of you have ever been there?
  2. Folks on this board certainly like to inflate South Africa's chances. They have a couple of things in their favour. But they also have a hellava lot more going against them.
  3. Well, FIFA does things in a funny way. Back in 1966, they picked the hosts for 1974, 1978 and 1982. And then in 1974 they ratified Colombia as host for the 1986 tournament. All of these well over a decade and some of them in 'shaky' countries...that's a lot of time and a lot can happen. And in some, a lot did! The IOC only plans things out 6 or 7 years ahead of time. Imagine if in 1980 they picked Moscow and Sarajevo for the 1992 Games?
  4. Of all the Brits I've met, very few identify themselves first as British - Welsh, Scottish, English - they all proudly flaunt their red dragons, thistles and roses first. Then the Union Flag and Queen. Compared to other countries, a Canadian overseas likely wouldn't self describe as a Albertan or Ontarian, just as an American wouldn't self describe as a Californian or Minnesotan...except maybe the Quebecois and Texans.
  5. Why can't you see that this isn't a 'partnership' of equals. Think of it this way...Uruguay is to Argentina as Scotland is to England or Canada is the USA or Austria is to Germany about 1/10th the size. So imagine an Austrian/German World Cup where Graz, Innsbruck, Salzburg and Linz host, but Hamburg, Cologne, Munich and Dortmund are denied. To pull off the 2030 bid, Uruguay and Argentina need each other. Uruguay needs Argentina's wealth of larger cities and stadia and Argentina needs Uruguay's centennial draw. Argentina could possibly pull it off alone, but aligning with Uruguay is a marke
  6. While Uruguay is one of South America's more successful countries, it is just too small to be a 50/50 equal partner in such a bid. Argentina's population and economy are both roughly 10 times larger than Uruguay's. The population and economy of the city of Buenos Aires alone is larger than the entire country of Uruguay. And again, Uruguay has only one large city. Montevideo. All the others are under 100,000 people. Punta del Este is primarily a resort town with only a few thousand permanent residents. These are not the ingredients for a a 50/50 co-host situation. I think at best, Uruguay coul
  7. ^ Like the Munich 1972 logo? Or the Vancouver 2010 logo? Or the all black SLC 2002 logo?
  8. Yeah, but if they are pushing the centennial sentimentality card, they need Uruguay. I know that didn't work for the 1996 Athens bid, but FIFA isn't the IOC...just ask those folks in Doha.
  9. Isn't that the motto of Putin's Sochi Games? Or is it wieners?
  10. Oh, I appreciate the idea. After all, this is just for fun, right? I tried to come up with a concept myself and couldn't. One reason is because I'm no designer. The other is that I wanted to do something that said Toronto but was really different - no maple leaf snowflake made out of Ts and Os! But every doodle ended up being a maple leaf snowflake made out Ts and Os. LOL!
  11. I think the quality of submissions for this contest is just fine. If there are problems, it is the subject...a Winter Olympics in Toronto just would never happen. Putting in some of the typical winter imagery like mountains is laughable considering there are no really big mountains to be found in the entire province of Ontario. And if the elements present seem a bit repetitive, consider that Toronto itself has used maple leafs and Ts in much of its own sports branding (their 1996 and 2008 Olympic bids, their beloved Maple Leafs, the 2015 PanAms, the Blue Jays and Toronto FC). Good luck to all
  12. But Japan didn't win because of a natural disaster...they won in spite of it. Japan's economy is massive. The third largest in the world. And almost 25 times larger than the Philippines. Japan is also a successful Olympic country, often in the top 10, and several top 3 performances. The Philippines would have to work on a much longer term plan if they ever want to host the Olympic Games. They don't even have a decent stadium.
  13. I know there were some dirty tricks pulled to get this and dirtier tricks to try and make it happen, but eight years or so until it is supposed to go down, I just can't help feeling that FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar is not going to happen. We all remember FIFA World Cup 1986 Columbia...Mexico? I may have to eat my words later, but this is just how I feel.
  14. Interesting infographic, but there were no Olympic Games in 1982. I think you mean 1972.
  15. Somewhat? I think it fair to say their record is out and out terrible. They field small teams, fewer than 20 athletes in the past few Olympiads. And the country hasn't won an Olympic medal since 1996, has never won a gold, and their best showing was 3 bronze at Los Angeles...in 1932! Please don't take that as an attack on the country. I have nothing against the Philippines. But stats are stats. With such small teams and very few medal achievements, the country has a long, long, long way to go before it can even flirt with the idea of hosting the Olympic Games.
  16. But there is only one city in Uruguay with a population over a million - Montevideo. All the others are 100,000 or less. The whole country has less than 3.5 million. Argentina has over 40 million. They aren't really equal partners. Now...how would it be to throw Chile into the mix? Probably complicated, but still, that would add a large city like Santiago and then a few near-million cities. Anyway...just a thought.
  17. While the idea of returning to Montevideo is charming (because the first World Cup was essentially the Montevideo World Cup), I think too much emphasis is put on the 2030 Argentina-Uruguay Centennial bid. In the end, these anniversaries are not all that important. Personally, I'd favour the 2030 World Cup in England. Hopefully by that time, FIFA will have cleaned up its act and learned its lesson - although it may take an exhausting run through Qatar to do that.
  18. I don't doubt that Qataris are utterly and absolutely football crazy. Their bid was f*cking crazy. Their victory was f*cking crazy. And FIFA was f*cking crazy to pick them. And if something crazy happened to their economy between now and 2022, we'll just see how crazy the 1.75 million residents there who aren't citizens would be at scoring a ticket out of town.
  19. As it sits now, bidding for WC2026 is likely the best shot Canada will ever have at hosting the World Cup. All the other really great WC options are either not allowed to bid under current rules, too burned by the Qatari sun to try again, or just plain p!ssed off at FIFA. There have been a lot of new stadiums or reconstructed ones of late. But even if Canada wins the bid and then gets knocked out early, it doesn't matter so much. We have so many ex-pats, immigrants and first generation Canadians in our big cities that they'd likely be cheering just as loudly (if not more so) for Brazil, Engl
  20. I don't think he's claiming to have created that logo. Just that his attempt looks a lot like that one. Right?
  21. You can love and support any bid you want. But you also have to measure it against reality. Personally, I was a fan of the Istanbul 2020 bid. I love the city and thought they would make an exotic host. But I knew in my heart that Tokyo was a very strong candidate. In the end, Tokyo essentially creamed Madrid and Istanbul. Just like Rio creamed Madrid for 2016 and Beijing creamed everyone for 2008. I also supported Paris for 2012, but expected it to be a close showdown with London. It was. But London won. And as a Vancouverite, I madly supported my city for the 2010 Winter Games. And I wanted
  22. If Lviv's ceremonies stadium is their strongest attribute, then they are starting out pretty poor. The ceremonies stadium is the LEAST important venue for the Winter Olympics. They could host it in a field for all it matters, like Albertville and Lake Placid essentially did. Money isn't the only factor, but it is a pretty big one. The Olympics are champagne, Ferraris and Prada. But if all you can afford is beer, Toyotas and H&M, you'd better save your money.
  23. South Africa will host the Olympics when the conditions are right.
  24. But based on the results of this poll (which I know is just a Gamesbids poll), Oslo and Stockholm would be pretty safe. It is Almaty and Krakow that are on the cusp, depending on a shortlist of three or four. Beijing and Lviv would clearly be out of the running. And of course, the real say belongs to the IOC Executive.
  25. What kind of cooling technologies can make a marathon course, an equestrian venue or a rowing basin safe and comfortable in 40 degree weather and blistering sun?
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