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  1. I guess that would make you the only thing that repeats itself more than a Norwegian Winter Olympics.
  2. Vancouver had a pickup truck and Sochi had an empty parking lot. So I guess Pyeongchang will have Hyundai factory?
  3. That could be because it is. The main Sochi 2014 complex was basically built on a seaside field, next to the airport, 30 km from the centre of Sochi in a community called Adler, just a kilometer or so from the border with Georgia. http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/24/worldsport/gallery/sochi-olympic-village-satellite/
  4. Maybe the day after Hell freezes over. Or after the closing ceremony of the Toronto Olympics.
  5. The men's downhill requires a vertical drop of 800 meters (or about 2600 feet). Elevation, for the most part, is irrelevant. You can have big tall mountains but only part of it can be skied. Grouse Mountain here in Vancouver, for example, has an elevation over 1200 meters but its vertical drop (essentially the distance from the top of the most skiable area to the bottom of the skiable area) is only 350 meters. Interestingly, the Vancouver Sun today featured an article that claims climate change in the future will cut the list of host city potentials. The study claims only 6 of 19 past Olympic hosts will be able to stage the Games in the future. http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/gold+former+Olympic+cities+climate+warms/9420310/story.html
  6. I dunno...I kinda think that any IOC supporters of Stockholm would not really support Oslo on two fronts: - the geopolitical game would mean an Olympic Games in one Scandinavian country pushes the hopes of the other off by 20-30 years. - if there's a desire to try a 'new frontier' or 'something different' neither Oslo nor Norway represent that. In both cases, Krakow benefits.
  7. Oh come on! The IOC loves totalitarian regimes. They get sh1t done with big shiny venues and lavish ceremonies without any of that nasty protesting, public consultation, democracy bull.
  8. I'm a bit disappointed but not surprised by this news. The Swedes are a pragmatic bunch and while this bid had a big problem with distance to one of the venues, Swedish pragmatism proved to be the biggest gap to overcome. I almost expect Lviv will drop out, too. And in that case, maybe the IOC will just let the remaining four pass through? But at this point, I think it will be an Oslo v. Krakow showdown. While we are definitely going to see more Olympic Games held in Asia in the future, three Asian-hosted Olympics in a row is really unlikely.
  9. Let's just put it this way... Oslo is a slide back to an old fling. Beijing is a reliable drunk dial booty call. Stockholm is a long distance love affair. Krakow is bi. Almaty is a blind date. And Lviv is going to get dumped by text before the first date.
  10. But the Olympics do have a global following. Take a look at this silly board. Every continent has been represented at some point.
  11. Well, FIFA does things in a funny way. Back in 1966, they picked the hosts for 1974, 1978 and 1982. And then in 1974 they ratified Colombia as host for the 1986 tournament. All of these well over a decade and some of them in 'shaky' countries...that's a lot of time and a lot can happen. And in some, a lot did! The IOC only plans things out 6 or 7 years ahead of time. Imagine if in 1980 they picked Moscow and Sarajevo for the 1992 Games?
  12. Of all the Brits I've met, very few identify themselves first as British - Welsh, Scottish, English - they all proudly flaunt their red dragons, thistles and roses first. Then the Union Flag and Queen. Compared to other countries, a Canadian overseas likely wouldn't self describe as a Albertan or Ontarian, just as an American wouldn't self describe as a Californian or Minnesotan...except maybe the Quebecois and Texans.
  13. Why can't you see that this isn't a 'partnership' of equals. Think of it this way...Uruguay is to Argentina as Scotland is to England or Canada is the USA or Austria is to Germany about 1/10th the size. So imagine an Austrian/German World Cup where Graz, Innsbruck, Salzburg and Linz host, but Hamburg, Cologne, Munich and Dortmund are denied. To pull off the 2030 bid, Uruguay and Argentina need each other. Uruguay needs Argentina's wealth of larger cities and stadia and Argentina needs Uruguay's centennial draw. Argentina could possibly pull it off alone, but aligning with Uruguay is a marketing move to improve their chances.
  14. While Uruguay is one of South America's more successful countries, it is just too small to be a 50/50 equal partner in such a bid. Argentina's population and economy are both roughly 10 times larger than Uruguay's. The population and economy of the city of Buenos Aires alone is larger than the entire country of Uruguay. And again, Uruguay has only one large city. Montevideo. All the others are under 100,000 people. Punta del Este is primarily a resort town with only a few thousand permanent residents. These are not the ingredients for a a 50/50 co-host situation. I think at best, Uruguay could get 3 maybe 4 sites. Two in Montevideo. Possibly one in a city like Salto or maybe another in a city like Colonia, Rivera, or somewhere else. But they would have to constructed in a sustainable way. Most of the matches would likely end up in the more numerous larger cities of Argentina, many of which already have existing stadiums of adequate size.
  15. Yeah, but if they are pushing the centennial sentimentality card, they need Uruguay. I know that didn't work for the 1996 Athens bid, but FIFA isn't the IOC...just ask those folks in Doha.
  16. Isn't that the motto of Putin's Sochi Games? Or is it wieners?
  17. I know there were some dirty tricks pulled to get this and dirtier tricks to try and make it happen, but eight years or so until it is supposed to go down, I just can't help feeling that FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar is not going to happen. We all remember FIFA World Cup 1986 Columbia...Mexico? I may have to eat my words later, but this is just how I feel.
  18. Interesting infographic, but there were no Olympic Games in 1982. I think you mean 1972.
  19. But there is only one city in Uruguay with a population over a million - Montevideo. All the others are 100,000 or less. The whole country has less than 3.5 million. Argentina has over 40 million. They aren't really equal partners. Now...how would it be to throw Chile into the mix? Probably complicated, but still, that would add a large city like Santiago and then a few near-million cities. Anyway...just a thought.
  20. While the idea of returning to Montevideo is charming (because the first World Cup was essentially the Montevideo World Cup), I think too much emphasis is put on the 2030 Argentina-Uruguay Centennial bid. In the end, these anniversaries are not all that important. Personally, I'd favour the 2030 World Cup in England. Hopefully by that time, FIFA will have cleaned up its act and learned its lesson - although it may take an exhausting run through Qatar to do that.
  21. I don't doubt that Qataris are utterly and absolutely football crazy. Their bid was f*cking crazy. Their victory was f*cking crazy. And FIFA was f*cking crazy to pick them. And if something crazy happened to their economy between now and 2022, we'll just see how crazy the 1.75 million residents there who aren't citizens would be at scoring a ticket out of town.
  22. As it sits now, bidding for WC2026 is likely the best shot Canada will ever have at hosting the World Cup. All the other really great WC options are either not allowed to bid under current rules, too burned by the Qatari sun to try again, or just plain p!ssed off at FIFA. There have been a lot of new stadiums or reconstructed ones of late. But even if Canada wins the bid and then gets knocked out early, it doesn't matter so much. We have so many ex-pats, immigrants and first generation Canadians in our big cities that they'd likely be cheering just as loudly (if not more so) for Brazil, England, Croatia or Korea. The seats will be filled. Even in Regina.
  23. You can love and support any bid you want. But you also have to measure it against reality. Personally, I was a fan of the Istanbul 2020 bid. I love the city and thought they would make an exotic host. But I knew in my heart that Tokyo was a very strong candidate. In the end, Tokyo essentially creamed Madrid and Istanbul. Just like Rio creamed Madrid for 2016 and Beijing creamed everyone for 2008. I also supported Paris for 2012, but expected it to be a close showdown with London. It was. But London won. And as a Vancouverite, I madly supported my city for the 2010 Winter Games. And I wanted us to cream the Salzburg bid. And we did. But almost lost to Pyeongchang in the process! The IOC is sometimes like the weather. An unexpected storm or blast of rain sweeps in. Sydney stealing Beijing's 2000 thunder by two votes. Chicago's early 2016 exit. A near first ballot 2010 upset by Pyeongchang. But they are also predictable. Beijing's thunderous return for a 2008 win. The London-Paris 2012 showdown. Borjomi failing to make the 2014 shortlist. But in this case, this bid is not likely to "Lviv Long and Prosper".
  24. If Lviv's ceremonies stadium is their strongest attribute, then they are starting out pretty poor. The ceremonies stadium is the LEAST important venue for the Winter Olympics. They could host it in a field for all it matters, like Albertville and Lake Placid essentially did. Money isn't the only factor, but it is a pretty big one. The Olympics are champagne, Ferraris and Prada. But if all you can afford is beer, Toyotas and H&M, you'd better save your money.
  25. But based on the results of this poll (which I know is just a Gamesbids poll), Oslo and Stockholm would be pretty safe. It is Almaty and Krakow that are on the cusp, depending on a shortlist of three or four. Beijing and Lviv would clearly be out of the running. And of course, the real say belongs to the IOC Executive.
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