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  1. The IOC prefers a summer Games to happen in the time frame between July 15 and August 31. A few times they have fallen outside that window - Melbourne, Tokyo, Mexico, Seoul, Sydney were later in the year, Athens 1896 were in April, and other earlier Games were all over the calendar.

    But do you feel this is absolutely necessary?

    For me personally, I like September Games when they chill of fall starts to creep in. It can be hard to sit indoors and watch the world's athletes on TV out running, cycling, paddling and jumping about playing beach volleyball when I could be out doing the same thing.

    Do you think ratings could be higher if the Games didn't always have to fall in the height of the heavily populated Northern Hemisphere's summer?

    I'm sure some of the Southern Hemisphere and Middle Eastern bid fans would love this.

  2. Do Americans watch in droves because they love NBC's coverage of the Games or because they love the Games themselves? I think it is because they love the Games, and as the official US broadcaster, they pretty much have no choice but to watch them on NBC, as NBC presents them. NBC just takes advantage of it. But Americans don't punish them during the Olympics...they save that for 'Must Not See TV' and tune after the Games to watch the regular line up on CBS and Fox instead.

  3. It is strange. They could easily do a pair in a pose and cover both genders. Certainly Vancouver and Torino made them feminine. Salt Lake was a bit gender neutral, although it leaned more masculine to me. Nagano too, but one little bump in the back kinda makes it look like a skirt. But I guess the sport is more popular with women and with all its sequins and feathers, isn't the most macho sport on the winter program.

  4. ^ To answer some of your questions...

    2010 - still on the waterfront, where I assume it will always be. Now part of a fountain and re-lit from time to time. And still a popular tourist attraction.

    2008 - now on display on the grounds near the Birds Nest.

    2004 - still part of the stadium.

    1996 - the cauldron and tower are in a parking lot just off Turner Field (the former Olympic Stadium).

    1992 - the Barcelona cauldron is still attached to the stadium at Montjuic. Albertville's is in a park where the stadium used to be.

    1988 - I believe that Calgary's is inside the stadium just to the side of where it was originally positioned.

    1984 (and 1932) - LA's is still atop the central arch.

    1980 - Lake Placid's is still in place (was restored in 2008), and Moscow's rusting heap was uncovered in some storage lot a few years ago.

    1976 - Innsbruck's are all still in place (with a third added and used for the 2012 WYOGs), Montreal's is just outside the stadium.

    1976 - Munich's is in a corner of the Olympia park.

    1968 - Mexico's is still in the stadium.

    1964 - Tokyo's is still in the stadium.

    1956 - Melbourne's is in a museum, I believe at the MCG.

    1948 - London's is in a museum at Wembley.

    1936 - still in place in Berlin's Olympic Stadium.

    1932 - see 1984 above.

    1928 - still atop the tower at the Amsterdam stadium.

    Some of these, I've seen in person. But with most, you can zoom in on Google Maps and find them in their original positions. One or two may even include a pic of them re-lit.

  5. I think the key to winning this thing is Istanbul's narrative. Now that they've made it through the big hurdle of getting on the shortlist, it is up to them to compose a winning story.

    Tokyo is a known certainty. They will host great Games and that assured. Spain's finances are a big spike in their coffin. Only the ghost of Samaranch can land them the 2020 Games. But if Istanbul gets most of the technical stuff down, tells the right story and says it with confidence, they'll get the Games. What is that story? Not sure. But given the way London and Rio won, I think there is credence in offering to inspire a generation of children from the Middle East and Muslim world to get into sport and athletics. I know those are things the Turks often try to down play, but given the size of that population base and their relative poor performance at the Olympics, I think it could be their winning argument.

    I know some find it dull that there are only three candidates, but this race is more interesting than it appears.

  6. But isn't that misleading?

    It isn't like the people in the stadium in London watched the Olympic Flame flicker out then watched a half hour lame sitcom and then got a performance from The Who.

    I did catch the end of the Seattle NBC coverage here, and they did cut up the ceremony quite a bit, although they did broadcast the Brazilian anthem, which CTV cut.

  7. I think it was one of the best closing ceremonies ever, up there with Sydney and Los Angeles, and probably better. I don't remember Beijing and I was ashamed and embarrassed by Vancouver's but most of the others have been low key and clearly a sideshow to the opening act. But London has to be the first Closing Ceremony where I thought it put the Opening to shame. Vibrant, energetic, colourful and a rich tapestry of Brit Pop. The epitome of what the fun, laid back, celebratory closing ceremony should be.

    Now...for what I didn't like, or would change...

    The protocol stuff seemed a bit out of whack and rushed and Rio de Janeiro's cultural presentation wasn't as expressive as I thought it would be. It wasn't the worst (I still think London itself takes that prize), but it wasn't my favourite either (that I give to Sydney in Atlanta).

    To each their own, of course, but I loved the London 2012 Closing Ceremony and now totally regret my original plan to attend the second half of the Games.

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