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Everything posted by yoshi

  1. The binational aspect of Stockholm is being overlooked in coverage of this. I think it’s the most important aspect of the bid - if it works, it’s a total game-changer for countries without bobsled tracks, high ski runs etc.
  2. Better than Baku & Minsk Seriously though, hopefully these Games (that’s what they are) continue to thrive & find themselves - it’s a very worthy experiment, both in having a Games of Europe & as a blank canvas to try new things. I hope we get some of the mid-sized cities/countries going for it too (Lisbon, Dublin, Prague etc). I understand why they’re starting with ex-Olympic cities (they’re right) but unless the Olympics gets small enough for them, this is the top multi-sport event they can have.
  3. Ooh. Must say, I’m pleasantly surprised - especially if it’s passed without much criticism in Sweden. We very definitely have a race on now
  4. Over the last two days, we have gone into full Armando Ianucci mode. 3 main things have occurred: 1 - The House of Commons had a vote on whether or not to have a vote...& it was a draw. Apparently the first proper tie since 1980. 2 - Parliament is in the process of passing a bill to make no-deal illegal...despite it not really being our decision at this point because any country could veto the A50 extension at the EU summit on Wednesday. And 3...even the Palace of Westminster itself is getting fed up with the whole thing & sprung a leak in the Commons, forcing the adjournment of proceedings for the day, which in practice means until Monday: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/04/house-of-commons-suspended-water-pours-through-ceiling Another normal few hours in Westminster
  5. I think Stockholm will quietly withdraw between now & the 12th. It could work out that they get to avoid losing the 2026 vote, watch Milan & whoever gets 2030 hopefully bring the Winter Olympics back to a sensible budget (especially if Milan really can pull it off 1984-style) & then come back with real support for 2034. Olympic bidding is largely about picking your battles & I do fear for Stockholm’s result & reaction if they go up with no guarantees against a fully-backed Milan.
  6. Forgot to post this at the time but also yesterday (day before now, really) in Parliament: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/01/semi-naked-climate-protesters-disrupt-brexit-debate It’s coming to something when a woman naked - save for an elephant trunk - supergluing herself to the glass of the public gallery is one of the more logical things to occur in the House this week Seriously, I don’t think I’ve ever watched BBC Parliament so much
  7. Not to mention that if you go to Stockholm without any guarantees (if they don’t grant them before the decision) you’re just begging for Denver Mk. 2 when the government do actually have to commit. It really is all about whether Sweden will give the guarantees before decision day.
  8. If they provide the guarantees, agreed. But the next few days are critical for that - either the Swedes respond by giving their bid the guarantees - in which case they become favourites again - or they don’t, in which case it’s just too risky. The IOC won’t be too displeased by Milan - it’s still Europe, which is what really matters, & it’s still dual-centred, so demonstrates the new model. Even Milan’s biggest negative - Salvini - could be useful if they can show the Olympics & European populism can coexist, in case that trend continues.
  9. Oh, no doubt there - Adelaide will host a great games, all you mention plus the Adelaide Oval is crying out for a CG track (like I say, it should’ve been them before GC), & of course having no host is worse. It’s just a great shame that only our countries seem interested anymore. You can probably put Perth 2034 down now. Even though the real new frontier type countries have probably been terrified by Delhi then Durban, even 2026 in Canada or NZ would be something different. With what’s happened there lately, Christchurch 2026 would be a particularly good story & target for the city. Not sure why it doesn’t appear to have even been considered by them
  10. Meh...like the idea of Adelaide hosting (should have been their turn instead of GC) but I just get the feeling that unless Hamilton really can somehow come through for 2030 they might as well formalise the UK-Oz alternation & have done with it. Oh for a NZ, South Africa, Singapore etc just for something different - this’d mean only 1 of the last 7 Games was outside UK/Oz.
  11. I strongly suspect Stockholm will withdraw very soon then - that’s the best way for them to save face & regroup for 2030 rather than suffer losing the vote & further entrench Swedish anti-IOC feeling.
  12. I was half-tempted to make an attempt at explaining what went on in Westminster today... ...but I just think this video explains everything far better than I ever could. Listen to what Krishnan (the reporter) says & imagine that x~600, & that’s the level of mess we’re at (This is a more serious summary: Brexit: No majority for any options after MPs' votes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47728333 )
  13. The IOC will have to do away with the requirement for government guarantees eventually. It might already be happening with how ‘flexible’ they’re being with Stockholm. Out of the ashes of the debacle of the last 10-15 years will come an era where the IOC pay for their own party’s overruns, even if it happens gradually - with talk of flexibility rather than any major announcements - & that will be better for all involved. For all the criticism (some justified) they’ve got in recent campaigns, I think in 30 years time, we’ll be hailing No Boston Olympics & their European copycats as the saviours of the Olympic Movement - the ones who made the IOC wake up.
  14. Tbh, I think most people were pretty amazed that Lima even got the Pan Ams before Santiago.
  15. Having had west, north, & then east, logic suggests the 2036 Olympic Park should be in Croydon Seriously, this does sound crackers, but since London has most venues in place, then if the IOC still has major problems getting bids by 2036 (bear in mind the bid process will be decided after LA, so hopefully the 24-28 combo will have solved that but even so), then there’s probably crazier ideas. Put it this way, if the IOC is in a hole, there’d be many worse ways to get out than this :p
  16. yoshi

    Brisbane 2032

    Good on them, even if Melbourne would be more ready sooner. Don’t understand the thought that the Commies were an embarrassment to Australia - apart from the incident in the marathon (freak event, could’ve happened anywhere) & that total clusterfuck of a closing ceremony (surely nothing like that will ever happen again), didn’t it basically go perfectly?
  17. Wrong emoji there - that’s entirely an indictment of the EOC. I mean Baku & Minsk, really - with friends like those... Who’s going for 2023’s European Games anyway, if anyone?
  18. I love the Grand Tours with how they start anywhere Good on Denmark though, it did a huge amount for Yorkshire in 2014 - hopefully with Euro 2020 & this there’ll be more bids for events there. Copenhagen would probably be a perfect host for the European Games, although as a democracy, the EOC would probably rule you out
  19. yoshi

    Stockholm/Åre 2026

    I think they can get there. And if they do, we may just be seeing the salvation of the Winter Olympics - assuming of course that the IOC learns the lessons. I particularly hope the Latvian aspect works, since suitable mountain ranges & existing venues sometimes don’t respect national borders, a proof of concept could really open it up to Central Europe especially.
  20. yoshi

    Stockholm/Åre 2026

    I think they might even get there. Their biggest challenge was always gonna be getting to the vote - surely the IOC can’t turn Sweden down yet again, especially as their bid embodies what they’re supposed to be looking for now.
  21. I promised you we'd be back in Mexico...have a drink! WELCOME/BIENVENIDO! As well as a rather strong beverage, Tequila is also a town in the state of Jalisco - & that's where we are for our final! Before we make the biggest decision, we must (finally) take a look at round 4 to see who's drowning their sorrows: A: 4 B: 5 C: 6. It took us a while, but we finally got there, a proper result - & after extra time, I'm afraid it's @JDCLauron's Mumbai that must leave the scene. Good luck next time, & I'm sure the winter title is good consolation Which all means that, once again, GamesBids' king of logos @paul is guaranteed an astonishing 8th title, with both his entries contesting the finale. This is GamesBids though, so there must be one winner. So this is it, the big one, a place on that signature on the line - as before, the final has slightly altered rules: This voting round will be open for (approximately) 48 hours - it will close at 9pm UK time on Monday, 21 January. This is the final round, with only two candidates. Whichever logo has more votes will be declared winner. Vote in the poll for your favourite logo. You have ONE vote, so make it count. Your vote is public and can be seen by all. Entrants MAY vote for their own logo if they wish. For transparency, I will not vote unless required to break a tie. Votes are valid if cast by members of GamesBids as of January 1 2019 with a bona fide posting record. I will rule on the validity of any suspicious or disputed votes, or who constitutes a bona fide voting member. I will not vote in this, or any subsequent rounds. However, if votes are level, I will reserve my right to vote in order to settle it. Be fair and sportsmanlike, this is meant to be fun and the entrants all deserve RESPECT So who will it be? Who will leave Mexico in high spirits as numero uno? The decision, of course, is all yours. We will reconvene in...well that's also your call - but it'll certainly be on Sunday. Good luck to Paul, &...Paul, & may the best logo win! GOOD LUCK!
  22. Voting actually closed this time. Proceed to Mexico for a free tequila & final vote.
  23. Yeah, thanks anyway but I don’t think that’ll work somehow I’ll leave that to the IOC