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  1. Ciao, ciao, Torino. Milan confirmed as speed skating host for the 2026 Games. Temporary-private founded venue to be allocated in the new Rho-Fiera exhibition center.
  2. ..or not!? https://www.repubblica.it/sport/vari/2023/02/27/news/olimpiadi_milano_cortina_2026_dossier-389866579/ Milan claims speed skating spot. Plans for a temporary structure in the Rho fair-expo district underway. Cortina confirmed for bobsleigh. Renovation works just started.
  3. https://www.repubblica.it/rubriche/spycalcio/2023/01/10/news/olimpiadi_2026_torino_torna_in_corsa_col_pattinaggio_alloval-382891297/ 2026 speed skating is going to move from Balsega to Torino after costs warning issues. To be officialized next weeks.
  4. I was reading news about the Pope visit in Madrid of these days and they tell about those indignados protesting the costs to set up the event. Makes you wonder how they're going react to the approaching multi-billionaire bid.
  5. Private high-speed rail for Italy By Robert Wright in London and Guy Dinmore in Rome Europe's first privately owned high-speed train operator will launch services in September next year in a "historic event" for Italy's rail system, the company's chairman has announced. Italy's NTV <http://www.ntvspa.it/en> will launch its services between Rome and Milan before gradually introducing services on all its routes, which stretch from Salerno in southern Italy to Venice and Turin in the north, by the summer of 2012. NTV will also be the first operator of Alstom's new AGV train, the French company's successor to its TGV high-speed train design. The first of 25 Italos -- as NTV calls its version of the train -- was completed on May 10 and is undergoing testing at Alstom's plant at La Rochelle on France's Atlantic coast. NTV is chaired by Luca di Montezemolo, chairman of Ferrari, the sports car maker, and Fiat. Mr Montezemolo, along with two other Italian businessmen, controls 33.5 per cent of NTV. Intesa Sanpaolo, the bank, and SNCF, France's state-owned train operator, both own 20 per cent, while Generali Insurance holds a further 15 per cent. Giuseppe Sciarrone, a former head of passenger services for Trenitalia, Italy's state-owned train operator, is chief executive of the new venture. Mr di Montezemolo said the Italo was the result of a passionate effort by a group of private investors. "The opening up of rail transport to competition is a historic event that will bring great benefits to travellers and will be a positive stimulus for the country's transport system," he said. The launch of NTV's service follows Italy's introduction of legislation allowing for competition between operators on domestic long-distance routes. Another group, founded by AirOne, the airline, was considering a rival service but it dropped the plans after its 2008 merger with Alitalia, the struggling Italian flag-carrier. NTV aims to exploit the completion last year of much of Italy's high-speed rail network to win over passengers from air travel. The company's initial Rome to Milan services will take about three hours -- which is usually the maximum journey time over which high-speed rail can compete well with air. The Italo trains will offer far greater luxury than the ETR500 trains built by Italy's Ansaldo Breda and used by Trenitalia on the same routes. The trains will offer continuous WiFi internet connection, television and, in one coach, cinema-standard film viewing. A successful debut for the AGV could be vital to the project's success. The AGV's motors are distributed along the train, with all electrical equipment hidden beneath the floors, as on Siemens' successful Velaro train model. TGV-type trains are driven by two heavy power cars at either end. P.S. Not surprised Montezemolo declined to lead of Roma 2020. He's too busy already with cars and trains.
  6. ^^ No idea. Apparently Toroc didn't care much about selling this stuff. You can try asking it to the owner of that video from YT.
  7. I found this on YT. Torino 2006 Medal Victory ceremony theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFSFBJ0wVJo
  8. It's still there, of course. Where else do you think it could be.
  9. Yeah, questionable point.. like that of the Alps being an obstacle to connections. Seriously UEFA?
  10. Since nobody seems to really care about this bid in Italy, except for those blind deluded of Figc, it's going to be France or Turkey. Not too bad, really.
  11. I see your points and I partially agree but.. 1 One thing is a mere copy, another is to take an idea and make it grander.. You yourself said Torino made it grander.. so improved it with changes (to say one, the spiral here embrassed all the stage and increasingly reached the cauldron). So we can discourse about the lack of ispiration or the lazyness of producers but objectively this is not a “copy” and least of all a rip-off and it’s the same director and the same family. 2. I agree that Birch(/Balich) and co. has becoming repetitive in these things but, personally, there are other things which bothered me about Torino ceremonies rather than this. You know for example how lame I found some of Cds performances, the disjointed fealing or how they summarily told the historic section. 3. You’re right about being original and showing something unique.. it's fair but the example of Beijing is so oversize compared to Torino. I mean those were the most expensive Summer Games in the history. There was a lot of nationl pride to show in those ceremonies and they obviously wanted to stage something which should have impressed the world. Torino didn’t have the same purpose or at least not at this scale even compared to Salt Lake or Vancouver. It was more relaxing but frankly nevertheless Torino provided originality and uniqueness in many other fields. 4. A vertical -tall- outside cauldron didn’t give much choices to organizers I guess. How could you light it without throwing (Barcelona), stairs (LA), floss-thread (Albertville), lift (Sydney), huge mechanical devices (Athens, Beijing)? Vancouver might be appreciated for making it new and original but, a part for the mulfunctioning, it turned out to be lame and anticlimax to many people. And also, don't you think that Beijing's was a bit tacky and unstylish (the floating guy looked like a salami). So the pursuit of originality at all costs doesn’t mean necessarily good result. At this regard I think that Salt Lake’s lighting (from the last torchbearer to the cauldron) was arguably one of the most succesfull and iconic overall as it well combined originality and simplicity. 5. Don't you know that Italians are famous for pyrotechnics? Maybe they wanted to pay homage to firework producers..
  12. Well ok Torino's lighting may have taken inspiration from previous but is that a big deal? They're both OLYMPIC ceremonies afterall.. they obviously share ideas and moves.. rip-off? really? It is really so necessary to make it extravagant and complicated (and eventually turning out be mulfunctioning) everytime? and even if you're arguing Torino copied Athens.. it's not bad at all considering that Athens delivered beautiful ceremonies. Anyway, I would point out one real good part about Torino's lighting: the ultimate spark. Very cool. Take a look.
  13. What's your point? I wasn't even on this board yet back then. I wasn't much into Athens hosting- troubles at that time, but I didn't recall them being as risky as this one. Beside, Athens was a very special sentimental choice. Those Games were kinda destined to Greece. Anyway, after all debating, you seem to agree that Uefa did some bed decisions.
  14. I am not. I think they really missed the reality check in those election.
  15. How many ultimatum are going to take again?
  16. Rightly? Uefa is not supposed to do charity. If Ukraine can't assure minimum standards for a decent host I don't see why keep insisting on them (other than to save Uefa's face obviously)?
  17. Actually not. It's still alive. Well, great things should never come to an end.
  18. Gianmaria Dal Maistro will be Italy's flagbearer. He's a partially sighted skier and medallist since Nagano '98. Best performance in 2006 wheh he took gold in Super G.
  19. Do you realize that lehari is finnish? What is wrong with you, Olympian2004? You totally missed the point here..
  20. Most (Coni included) call it "the end of a cycle" and certainly it was. Since the high peaks of the 90's, the descent was kinda expected. Maybe not of these proportions but predictable. Anyway, this doesn't justify the big fall. Coni seemed to have approched these Games too softly. Looking at the general placing (included 5 forth places), their slogan seemed to be "Leave the podium".
  21. Well, Torino was pretty less patriotic than Vancouver. Also, there weren't all this overdose of national proud or "own the podium".
  22. ^^ We could say.. Italy and Finland united in failure. Razzo's gold was a beautiful surprise, though.
  23. Well, mr x, we could say the same for you. Given your history here, it comes to evidence your "anti-Torino" attitude and btw it's you who started those obssessive comparison threads between Vancouver and Torino, remember? Lehari was volounteer in Torino. She may be a little bit too emotional about it but surely she experienced Torino games better than anyone else.
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