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  1. No Actually that was Scrapped EARLY ON in THE BID! Check Again... And the Point was it's in 5 different Burroughs AND ANOTHER STATE!
  3. And I have already been through a successful international bid process, I am not here for your coaching.... Especially when it lacks any comprehension of viable information relayed back to you in whats considered a 2 way conversation :-)
  4. I'll say it again... your doing nothing for me. I am not part of this committee... much deeper... have a great night. I'm DONE Those are Villages :-) Not Greater Boston ummm haven't we talked about that!?
  5. and you guys need to keep better track of who said what to who because your throwing facts and **** at me to quotes I did not say :-)
  6. They Didn't That's crazy since they were Runners up in the Candidate Final Rounds! ok so allowed in Chicago but not in Boston... because your map includes no neighborhoods of Boston Proper ;-)
  7. Newbie haha... Only to communicating with uneducated, contradictory statements that carry no merit or really a response to anything I have said.. I am far from a newbie in this life and I have been reading this attack tactic garbage to every person that has submitted a bid potential... my mistake was joining in NEW JERSEY 2012! NEW JERSEY 2012! NEW JERSEY 2012!
  8. Excuse me but I don't need to name you Winning Cities that was not the argument... The Argument was that COOPERATIVE BIDS and STADIUMS NOT LOCATED IN THE SAME STATE! OR the HOST CITY are ALLOWED.. . Any city that makes it past any round of voting, including the first round has been approved of these stated above, they do not make it to the short list or to a candidate bid without that.. LIKE NEW YORK CITY 3rd RUNNER UP - NEW JERSEY 2012!
  9. You are so clueless really... Foxboro 2024.. haha So according to you, all the things that are printed in bid documents, delivered to the IOC are lies, incorrect and not accepted.. Got it.. So when NYC Bid for 2012 and was the 3rd runner up there concept was not to have SEVERAL OLYMPIC CLUSTERS SPREAD OUT in Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn and East RUTHERFORD NEW JERSEY where guess what kids THE OLYMPIC STADIUM would have been in NEW JERSEY.. Meadowlands, Flushing Meadows!? NOT NICE PLACES and NOT CLOSE So its ok for them to use Boroughs but not Boston... and it's ok for them to use old existing and comprable arenas but we are not so they get madison square gardens but we cant use boston garden... they can use the then OLD Yankee Stadium but we cant use Fenway Park... they can use GIANTS STADIUM 10 miles WEST of NYC and in a DIFFERENT STATE but we cant use Gillette Stadium.. And when I mention any type of FIFA World Cup or Marathon you say that means nothing and yet NYC and Paris structured their ENTIRE bid around those things! I mean your a joke - Paris bid separate northern and western clusters - London took trashy hamlets and created a new city called lower key valley for the centerpeace of its bid. That is not London proper! Rio is split into 4 olympic centers Barra, Copacabana, Deodoro, Maracana and multiple further cities like Sao Paulo this is not Rio!... and their entire bid is about what!?... FIFA WORLD CUP Tokyo a cooperative bid.. what was their bid about!?.. The Tokyo Marathon that was added to the World Marathon Majors which was created by who? Boston Separate clusters from village Chicago outspread along Lake Michigan... Stadium? the far outer south side of Washington Park (NOT CHICAGO!) would have to build their ENTIRE BID OF VENUES! what was their bid about? The city 2nd to Boston thats hosts all 5 mens and women's major sports. ISTANBUL! FIFA FIFA FIFA oh and INDOOR TRACK & FIELD! SEVEN SEPARATE CLUSTERS! Don't worry I will not respond again.. I have not mentioned Sochi at all :-)
  10. Seriously who are you? Where were you educated!? The area of Boston city proper alone is 90 square miles, 50 sq miles land and 40 water. and that is JUST boston the PROPER meaning just the inner city LOL.. Boston is Commonwealth city so therefor its considered Greater Boston that is the city, and that would be the location of the games... and that would be the area of the Bid... That is 4,674 Square Miles ! Rio - largest city in Brazil - 485 square miles London - 606 sq miles - BY YOUR RULES otherwise they wouldnt have won the bid right? because "The Greater London Urban Area was not included?" Last I checked that was required for their bid! Beijing - 6,487 sq miles Athens - 50,949 sq miles - (Obviously no one could ever really compare) Sydney - 651 sq miles - Atlanta - 630 sq miles Barcelona - 40 sq miles - FOURTY! Los Angeles - 503 sq miles you guys clearly have no respect, sad sad thread this is... Between this thread People neglecting to acknowledge Lance Armstrongs $500 million legacy and countless lives saved including My OWN Survival from Cancer as an Athlete (he was punished and deserved it) he does not deserve the death penalty which is basically what he is receiving by People who are ignorant like this conversation and the people who are trying to judge and destroy Jodie Foster for having her own feelings, thoughts, emotions and life just because she didn't conform to the mold our society now called Contradiction USA obligates our celebrities and philanthropists. I have lost all respect and hope for any type of exchange of mutual knowledge or respectful debate and culture.
  11. Semantics is all They Have... If you look at every response they pick and chose what they want to pick apart and they clearly love to design rules specific to Boston Biding because none of them exist... This will be my last response to this ridiculous back and fourth rather than having a real conversation about an amazing oportunity for any city or person involved whos willing to work hard and make it happen.. the IOC allows COOPERATIVE HOST CITY BIDS - Example: previous potential applicants and future applicant cities WASHINGTON, DC & BALTIMORE, MD (46 Miles Apart) which is the same distance as BOSTON from PROVIDENCE, BOSTON and WORCESTER, BOSTON and MANCHESTER, all of which have been host to Major Sporting Events. TAMPA and ORLANDO - (86 MILES! Apart) EIGHTY SIX! SAN DIEGO & TIJUANA (17 Miles Apart) - Expressed interest and were authorized to bid for the first BINATIONAL Olympics BRUSSELS, BELGIUM - Belgian city and a Dutch City after the Euro 2000 co-organized by both countries And ++++++++++++++ I wont recap the previous olympic games again because you clearly think that because a Television Network is told to call the locations by the Main Host Cities name that that is in fact the location of each venue or Stadium because it's not and if you would take the time to actually look at the bid documents or really any information about each games you would know that they are in fact allowed and in multiple locations... And numerous games as I previously mentioned have had events GREATER then 40 miles away. And the whole Boston can't handle the amount of people or security or heads of state is really just plane old STUPID. You don't become the International Center for Higher Education and Center for Medicine, or 11th in the top 20 Global Financial Centers by being a small, useless, inaccessible city to not only the US but the WORLD. Boston is ranked NUMBER ONE for INNOVATION both Globally and in North America for a Slue of Reasons giving us maybe a slight edge on being able to accommodate and build any necessary infrastructure to make an innovative cultural platform in one of the most DIVERSE CITIES IN THE WORLD! Greater Boston... YES GREATER BOSTON, which is what the city is comprised of and will remain comprised of and would represent as a Host City is 10th in population among U.S. metropolitan areas with the sixth largest gross metropolitan product in the country and twelfth largest in the world. Not to mention top in Healthcare & Cost of Living all making us a viable city and Financially Stable & RELEVANT location. And my final large statement before you chew all this up for desert and pick it a part how you want.. In Regards to Heads of State and Security & Events or really our irrelevance .. Again I laugh... not because of your personal opinion or because you feel we are a long shot... I 100% respect and partially agree with you. But I laugh at just your clear lack of knowledge or interest in physically taking in anything I have shared with you be it 100% right or partial or what have you. Boston held the 5 Day - 2004 Democratic National Convention. It was the FIRST National Convention in the country since the terrorist attacks on September 11th 2001. Making it THEY SECURITY & Most Important event to happen for our democracy as a nation. 34 Cities were given an initial notice, 10 cities responded. Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Miami, NEW YORK CITY and Pittsburgh. Of those 5 cities submitted bids - Baltimore, Boston, Detroit, Miami and New York. After site visit and inspections Boston was announced as the Host. Security during the convention was organized by the Boston Police (First Police Department in the United States) the U.S. Capitol Police and the U.S. Coast Guard. Huge security measures were taken bomb squads, sniffing dogs, 7-foot high metal barricades bans on corporate and private flights at Logan International Airport and they Shutdown Interstate 93. Boston's Ability to promulgate such tight security measures even frustrated the news media. Credentials were subject to extremely strict rules forbidding borrowing or sharing with is common practice for major media outlets especially at the Olympics. Do I need to list the over 60 Speakers the Top Heads of our Country who were protected? Normally you would say the Republican and Democratic conventions have the same caliber of speakers and attendees .. Not in 2004 The DNCs List of Principle Speakers 100 times surpassed that of the RNC. So no I do not believe we would have ANY issue what so ever keeping security for 50 heads of state. It's Boston Massachusetts that is COMMON PRACTICE here literally... To the Capital to the Colleges where they speak and where their kids go to school, they have their Medical Procedures done here.. and Besides if you go down the list of PAST and PRESENT Heads of State across this Globe at least 40% of them have their Doctorates, Masters, LLM and MBAs from Harvard, Williams, MIT and Tufts so I can probably tell you they would be rather comfortable and happy to be here. And to end on a sports note. of course not as large as the Olympics blah blah blah but experience does count contrary to your popular belief. Boston has been home to: 116 Runnings of the Worlds First and Oldest Modern Day Marathon 2 Olympic Trial Marathons 4 FIFA World Cup Games (stadium ranked 2nd in US and 43rd in the world out of 257) that meat the FIFA requirements US Olympic Mens Track Trials 4 Times Every Year we hold many of the Worlds largest Track Championships both Indoor and Outdoors for the Visa Championships at Reggie Lewis Track and Athletic Center & Harvard. The Olympic Sports of Basketball and Volleyball were INVENTED in Massachusetts and the worlds shrine of sports history The Basketball Hall of Fame is here as is the Volleyball Hall of Fame. MAJOR tourist destinations. We hold the Head of the Charles Regatta Cape Cod Major League Baseball Training Camp Major Gold Events - U.S. Opens, Ryder Cups and more, Major League Soccer, Major League Lacrosse, the Professional Women's Soccer League. Americas World Leading Gymnastics Center is here, home to CURRENT Olympic, World, National and Canadian National Gold Medal Gymnasts. And with that I rest my case - eat it up, gobble it out, do as you wish.. I thank you for the time.
  12. And I'll Repeat Again... Those Venues were examples of existing infrastructure .. the first 2 were viable for Opening/Closing LOL... Oh Required comes from you once again... where did I say that any of our locations would be used "AS IS"... Man you are so not worth it. I need to restrain my passion sometimes but Ignorance is not how you debate... Boston is just as Viable if not more then any of the other US Cities. And where we lack in some areas we make up with it in being a Sports & Culture Meca the Sports Title Capital and the Home to the Oldest Marathon with the First Women's Olympic Marathon Champion coming direct from our own backyard who at 55yrs of age can still qualify... You know those things are part of the equation as much as you want to pick and chose what to contradict everything you have listed can be fixed, upgraded, built... But Our Legacy and History and What our State has Accomplished in the last 10 Years are Etched in Stone Forever!
  13. HAHA I love when people pick and choose... You missed the entire point of course... more then have the host cities have utilized EXISTING STRUCTURES... Therefore we can do the same and remodel the point is we have the space & the locations.. And Gillette is infact nominated for both those superbowls L has been chosen now.. And Yes... they have a Commuter Train Line... something other cities would build :-) The others were venues that can be utilized not specific to sport or ceremonie but proof of existing structures... if a Baseball Stadium can accommodate 40,000+ people why can't it host an Opening and Closing Ceremonies? Last I checked that wasn't specific to sports type LOL. I am not on the exploratory committee, I am an Athlete and And as I said a board member for many of these events. And Yes if those Billionaire Men are 100% onboard with the LGBT Community and the Federation of the Gay Games and bringing Sports and Culture to the Sports Titile USA and a large Economic bost for the surrounding communities, then I most definitely they would be on board for The Greatest Sporting & Cultural Event of Our Time! All I have!? What do you have? You have sat in the stadium and commented it is old. I have not only been a spectator in every venue in New England but I have also competed in them, I have sat through 100's of hours of committee meetings planning an event JUST like this oh wait sorry a few less days! And I have 1,000 page bid books and venue specs and financial pages that you could circle the Globe With :-) My standing here is Boston is Viable. My Other Standing is You Can be Skeptical but you can't preach Stupid, Ignorant, Fact-less Information without getting a Response. I've said my piece to the original post, I'm gonna call it a night and let you stick with what you know and what I dont.
  14. I have been on here for a very long time, long before Boston Considered. I have had my own dreams of that... My Comments come from me personally and my experience and research, Obviously people who are passionate and knowledgeable on the Topic are going to post... And I don't necessarily disagree with you being skeptical, it's a major major endeavor from all sides for ANY City or Country and Skeptics are going to be Bostons largest problem. I personally am 100,000% for this and will be behind it (and I crack up every time I see that Boston or someone in Boston thought we were going to bid for a winter olympics) But I do have some reservations with the other contenders for 2024 and why we have still yet to add our name to the list of candidates. I think Boston is the PERFECT candidate to Bid for the first US Youth Olympic Games especially because of our sports heritage and legacy and since we are the 3rd Healthiest State and have Gone from 10th to 3rd in less than 2yrs and highest amongst Youth ..
  15. The Last 5 Gay Games have had more Athletes then the Olympics by 1,000 or more Athletes and that's not Including the multiple thousand people in the cultural events. And between 2 and 5 more Sports. Gay Games - (35 Sports) Cologne - 11,000 Chicago - 12,500 Sydney - 11,000 Amsterdam - 13,038 NYC - 11,200 Vancouver - 8,000 San Fran - 5,000 San Fran - 1,500 *Games #1 Olympics - (29-34 Sports) London - 10,500 Beijing - 10,900 Athina - 10,500 Sydney - 10,700 Atlanta - 10,300 Barcelona - 9,300 Before this 6,000 or Less
  16. So because you quote with no knowledge that we don't have a suitable location for the main stadium that makes it fact?... first lets get the distance rule out of the way... There is no distance rule! It's quite obvious it should be in the center of it all, but clearly not required. and 9 times out of 10 a new Neighborhood is created because it can't be in the city itself.. 1992 and 2010 were widely dispersed. Torino had locations in 4 different parts of the country, Rio is split into four clusters rather then concentrated in a single area. and Nagano had events that were 43 MILES from the stadium thats double Gillette. Harvard Stadium the first stadium dedicated to American Intercollegiate Athletics and one of the largest college outdoor venues in the US . Capacity up to 35,323 - nearly 10,000 greater with upgrades. Pyeongchang - Capacity: 50,000 - Structure: Temporary! Sochi - Capacity: 40,000 - Structure: New Vancouver - Capacity: 50,000 - Structure: Existing! Turin - Capacity: 28,000 - Structure - Existing! Salt Lake City - Capacity: 45,000 - Structure - Existing! 30 Olympic Stadiums have been EXISTING Structures - 5 Olympic Stadiums were TEMPORARY Structures 30 Olympic Stadiums have had Capacities UNDER 50,000 You have to remember that it's really based on the Population of that City not the Olympics. Gillette Stadium home to the New England Patriots & New England Revolution Soccer is the largest football stadium in the Mid America Conference. Capacity: 68,756 (Football) 30,000 (Soccer) Notable Events: AFC Championship Games, 2002 MLS Cup, 4 FIFA Women's World Cup Soccer Games, NCAA Men's Lacrosse Championships 4x and the Future Location of Super Bowels L and XLIX - 20m south of Boston & 20m North of Providence OH! Can't forget the fact it has it's own TRAIN DIRECT FROM THE CITY TO THE STADIUM! Fenway Park speaks for itself - Capacity 37.400 Other Venues: TD Garden MIT Aquatics Center MIT Stadium Harvards Blodgett Pool BU Aquatics Center Back Bay Events Center Walter Brown Arena George Wright Gold Course Harvards Murr Center Harvards Beren Tennis Center Harvard McCurdy Track & FIeld BU Track & Tennis Center Charles River Sailing Moakley Field Ohiri Field The list gooooooes On! Shall I list the Operating Costs for you!?
  17. In terms of the number of Participants they are the same and Gay Games has more Cultural Participants then the Olympics, in terms of Sports and Venues they are nearly the Same the Olympics obviously encompasses a greater spectrum of events but again same total athletes. The infrastructure has been well thought out and researched for an event this large multiple times and we already hold events with more people.. And the Gay Games puts on their event without the need to build all the extra venues because it's already available... The Olympics is clearly something that can't compare in that its the Olympic Games and that alone is reason enough to find ways to build grand stadiums for the world to see. But we all must remember the IOC is taking the side and spreading the message of SUSTAINABILITY like we all should. Rio will be the first completely Sustainable Olympics and I for see it being not only the best in the world but the new way of the Games. (and please Everyone research before dropping facts, this is supposed to be a discussion not a You Suck and We are Better then you, it's fine to think its a fat chance Boston will win, but don't give reasons that are clearly not true)
  18. 90% of the Olympic Host Cities that have to build all of their venues is because 1) they don't have any sports in their country, especially to the size of 10,000 participants at once. and 2) they need the infrastructure to begin with. Almost all US Candidate Cities already have the Venues in place and just need upgrades and the rest is to make it Olympic Grandeur not because they don't have the Capacity... Boston has far more Capacity then 75% of any major city in the US. Boston is a Sports Meca & Capital and Home to the OLDEST and FIRST Modern Day Marathon. Every Elite Runner in the World has gone on recorded saying they would fully back & participate in a games held in Boston.
  19. It's an Exploratory Committee we have not announced to the media until be have some more concrete reports completed. And why wouldn't the person in charge of the Social Media for Boston-2024 not have a screen name called Boston-2024 LOL... And from personal experience as a Board Member of Bostons Bid for the 2014 Gay Games which is they LARGEST Sporting and Cultural Event in the world to and above par to the Olympics, this is an extremely feasible opportunity for Boston. Boston couldn't be a better fit for the Summer Olympics, and all of the cities and surrounding Sports Teams & Owners are fully on board to this kind of event coming to the city of Boston. And it only works with the support of everyone working together, not claiming it wont work because of XYZ when you really need to be a part of XYZ to know how it works and if its possible, and this is very possible. The only downfall is the heavy list of heavyweight cities biding and that the USOC has not confirmed if the US will Bid for an Olympics then or ever...
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