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  1. I knew most of what you all said, but not that Chicago turned down 2024; I knew they through out 2020 before the USOC did. I also knew about the cities that did except and the others that denied, so I was not completely clueless.

    They would be amazing...but a dream.

    Every Single Bid is a Dream.... Until that Magical Day it all comes together and Becomes Reality - but that can only happen with positive minds, goals and attitudes.

  2. No one is truly ahead of anyone until it's in the hands of the USOC, if you were to go by Social backing it would be Philadelphia they have nearly 14,000 facebook followers however their page was created in late 2009. And they have bid 4 previous times.

    Boston has nearly 2,000 and has been up for less then 1 year... (12 days away from 1yr)...
    in 2010 Maine created a fan page to bid and although the page has been inactive by moderators since 2010 they have OVER 15,250 fans that could be possible conversions over to Greater-Boston

    Personally I think our biggest foreign contenders are Paris and South Africa although they have considered not bidding due to the health of Nelson Mandela... and Dubai dropped out
    But if Tokyo & Madrid loose to Istanbul (fingers crossed on my end) then they would be the favored candidates to bid

  3. Oh no look out here's that TeamRik again! :ph34r: Don't worry I won't try and spoil your fun, I can finally take this thread for what it is; fact-less banter. And that's no fun or helpful to anyone.


    I just wanted to remind all you California dreamers, or well educate you that Los Angeles has bid for the Summer Olympics the most times out of any US City... 9 times... and they lost every time except for of course 1932 and 1984... and why is that?.. Because NO OTHER CITIES BID! - 2nd most Detroit (7), 3rd most Philadelphia (4) & Chicago (4) lost, lost, lost!

    It be nice if we could actually be constructive and support each other or we should just go back to the nineteen fifties where 6 or 7 US cities all bid against each other four Olympics in a row and not any of them won!..

  4. 3rd largest IN THE NFL. Citi Field is not an NFL stadium, and you can't really count Farmers Field since the stadium doesn't actually exist yet. Again, semantics. Although I stand by my earlier claims about the Super Bowl host selection process, even though that's neither here nor there

    No, I am not here for silliness. So yes, that works for me. Moving on...

    And Yes I agree, I mistated with "Coaches" when I totally meant "Owners" however I have read on numerous occasions that Gillette was going to be considered and that was part of the consideration on it's building plans, I never said they were ever close to winning one or to a vote but they were of consideration.

    Ouch you didn't shake my hand back!!!... JK :P

  5. Rik, this isn't personal to me, but if you're going to insult me like that (for the record, I've worked in sports since I was in college, including for the NFL, so I think I know a thing or so here) and then spew a bunch of incorrect nonsense like that, then I'm going to be compelled to reply in kind. First off, the Super Bowl host site is decided by the OWNERS of the NFL, not the coaches. You do have to bid to host the game. You don't automatically make the list because your stadium has the capacity. Gillette has the 3rd largest naming rights deal in the NFL (behind MetLife Stadium and Reliant Stadium), but that means little in terms of their hosting a Super Bowl, and not just because they haven't bid for it.

    Like I said, I'm done with this argument, but again, if you're going to try and tell me how the Super Bowl selection process works, don't take it personally where point out all your factual errors there.

    Your Figures and Link are from 2010-2011 numbers and Gillette is ranked 5th not 3rd on your very own sheet!... My Figures and Link are from 2012-2013 and have Gillette at 2nd oh and with a much high margin

    Just realized that. If that's not a case of semantics, I don't know what is. So I think Rik and I should agree to disagree on that one.

    I will AGREE again, and move on if you will... We are both here for the same reason and this silliness is not it.... right?

    <Shakes Hand>

  6. Boston's Building Boom Defies Weak Economy
    22 Developments Broke Ground, Investing $1.6 Billion in Boston, and Creating 2,450 New Construction Jobs

    Mayor Thomas M. Menino today recognized the 22 developments that broke ground in 2012, a total investment of $1.6 billion, which put 2,450 construction workers back on the job and will create 2,010 units of housing.

    “Cranes crowd the city skyline because investors are bullish on Boston,” Mayor Menino said. “Thanks to a growing innovation economy, a young and energized population, and an educated workforce - Boston is booming.”

    In 2012 projects broke ground in Allston/Brighton, Charlestown, Chinatown, the Innovation District, Jamaica Plain, the LMA, Mattapan, Roxbury, and South Boston. These projects have housing, hotel, athletic, municipal, office, and retail uses.

    In addition, the Boston Redevelopment Authority board approved 37 projects in 2012 a total investment of $3.4 billion, which put 5,217 construction workers back on the job and will create 3,898 units of housing. These project approvals ensure Boston’s building boom will continue into 2013.

    2012 Development Year in Review: Groundbreaking Highlights

    • 22 projects broke ground
    • $1.6 billion was invested in new development
    • 2,450 construction jobs were created
    • 4.6 million square feet is under construction
    • 2,010 units of housing

    Boston Wharf Tower: 319 A Street Rear

    $100M project

    202 units of housing, including 22 affordable

    Boston Innovation Center, Innovation District

    $5.5M project

    Crucial part of Innovation District social infrastructure

    Dudley Municipal Office Building, Dudley Square

    $115M project

    Future headquarters of Boston Public School Department

    Longwood Center, LMA

    $350M project

    Cutting edge research and development facility

    2012 Development Year in Review: Approved Project Highlights

    • 37 projects were approved by the BRA Board
    • $3.4 billion in planned development investment
    • 5,217 construction jobs will be created
    • 7.5 million square feet of approved development
    • 3,898 units of housing

    Millennium Tower and Burnham Building

    $625 million project

    500+ units of housing

    Ground floor retail and office

    New Brighton Landing

    $500 million project

    Future New Balance World HQs

    59 Temple Place

    $60 million project

    Boutique hotel, restaurant, retail, and spa

    http://origin.library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1011270028105-3383/Downtown+Development+Fact+Sheet+February+2013.pdf



    Seems Rik's talking about exposure and Quaker's talking about pure $$$. You're both right, just talking cross purposes as far as I can see. Not sure what this has to do with the Games, though I suppose it shows a strong sponsorship market.


    Thank You For That....

  7. I know thats what you wrote, I was providing the source to your figures. Its always best to provide an authoritative source when providing quantitative facts like business rankings.

    As for start up costs (again, 49th in the nation), that goes hand in hand with regulatory costs (42nd in the nation). There's lot of logistical paperwork that Massachusetts has to undertake any major project that other states do not have, that covers everything from starting a new small business to hosting the Olympic Games. Its not as though there's an Olympic organization already established in Boston, with is own, pre-existing Olympic Park that is just looking for a 'thumbs up' vote from the city and state. It is a very complex task in any environment; Massachusetts makes it a more complex task.

    And please, I'm sick of arguing for all the *negatives* to an Olympic Bid. I want it to happen, but I'm

    not going to ignore the difficulties.

    The city has paperwork, not an issue getting it filled out and APPROVED...

    oh really? where is your authentication to your figures? Since Gillette is ranked #2 :-)

    http://adage.com/article/special-report-super-bowl/metlife-gearing-role-host-2014-super-bowl/238861/

  8. You said the *communities* were ready, willing, and able. Most people consider the general public to be the community (at least, I do). I'm not trying to detract from your knowledge of the state, but it seems to me that if your social network is composed of a great number of athletes, I almost take it for granted that they'd be eager for a Boston olympics. Oh, and the someone who referred to Boston natives not even noticing the packed hotels was me.

    Yes the communites are.. This Boston bid is not a NEW CONCEPT.. it has been explored many times before and the Communities have talked about it many times including when we have help Olympic Trials and other Championship events.. oh and they all supported the gay games bid including the city of boston, the governor, mayor, all the major sporting leagues, all the major colleges, and hotels all of which were willing and able to provide funding, fundraising and facilities but according to everyone that doesn't matter :-)

    South Station Tower is in development hell, though there are a few smaller developments springing up around it. As for Fan Pier, the entire neighborhood has been planned out and is already under development.

    There might be some locations in the Seaport that would be large enough left, but I'm not sure. To me, there best 'large' areas left are the East Boston Piers, the big vacant lot next to the South Boston power station, and, if the city's willing to pursue eminent domain options, Newmarket/South Bay Plaza.

    All of the Waterfront is developed but not the other side next to and behind the convention center... Also Parking Lots can be converted into garages and buildings...

    And it's time for updated building information because most of the projects that had problems of the 22 that broke ground last year and the 37 this year have been fixed and many new tenants have come forward. This week they BRA Approved the new 37 Story Tower being built connecting North Station & TD Bank

    And the 60 Story Millenium Towers that have been in hurt for 5 years were just set back on Track this week as well...

  9. Rick, you might want to add some citations to your lists...

    Here's the link to your most recent list:

    http://www.forbes.com/best-states-for-business/list/#page:1_sort:0_direction:asc_search:

    I note that you leave out the category that Boston ranks second to last in... Business Start up costs.

    But what does that have to do with the Olympics, anyway?

    ummm everything on the link you just sent I wrote :-) and how exactly would that figure affect the games? LOL

  10. Typo in my previous post: not 'both citizens, business, and government.' Should be 'tierce citizens, business, and government' (not that anyone uses tierce).

    Oh, per the suggestion of keeping the Olympic Village more compact, I ran a new layout. Confining the development to the stretch of air rights between Back Bay Station and the I-90/I-93 interchange, including building over the Back Bay Station itself (a brutalist eyesore that is falling apart). Thats 842,000 square feet of space. Per my prior standard of 1,000 beds per 50,000 square feet, that allows for 16,847 beds; more than enough. All in a contiguous location running through Boston. I'm envisioning a series of buildings, with enclosed foot bridges running between them, to maintain a controlled and connected environment. Added bonus: they'd be adjacent to the Copley Center/Prudential Center shopping complex, which is already connected by such bridges. The legacy could be a mixed use, pedestrian-friendly complex spanning the length of the core of the city.

    Another bonus is multiple parking facilities directly adjacent, that could be commandeered for the olympics, and easy rail access (the entire thing would be built on top of one of the main rail lines). The City could look into adding a station on the east end of the complex (if only for the games), in order to better facilitate access.

    Also, while we're on the topic of space, could someone help me out with this:

    Per the Technical Manual (linked to a few pages back), the requirements for bedrooms are 12 sq meters for a 2 bed. Quick conversion, works out to just over 129 square feet for every two beds. When you divide that into my '50,000' square foot benchmark, you come up with 774 beds in a 50,000 square foot area. Which is not all that far below my 1,000 bed benchmark.

    That sounds all well and good, except I was basing my estimate on a structure that averages over 16 stories tall (admittedly, subtract the first few floors for other non-residential uses). According to this, you could nearly achieve the requisite space on one floor! Is my math off, or is the IOC just fine with packing the athletes in like sardines in comparison to what I was suggesting?

    Back bay is a great idea. South Station and North Station currently have 2 VERY large high rise buildings being built so it's definitely a concept the redevelopment would be familiar with and in favor of.. However I really dont think living quarters are even a remote hinderance on Boston.

    Olympic Stadium & Public Transport are #1... and I think prime prime location is Southie & Fan Pier area which already looks sooo amazing.. I owned a condo in the Fort Point Channel and know there are some great HUGE lots still available like the proposed lot where they were going to expand the Convention Center

  11. I grew up in the Berkshires and the Pioneer Valley. I went to school in Boston. I'm marrying a girl from the Cape. I'm a product rep for a major company, with my territory being pretty much the entire state, and I'm constantly driving back and forth, from the North Shore to the South Shore to Worcester to Springfield, and all throughout Boston, speaking with small business owners and employees, people on the street, etc. etc. Suffice it to say, I've got a pretty good 'pan-Massachusetts' perspective on most issues.

    I've yet to encounter anyone who's even *aware* of any of this, other than those that I've mentioned "Hey, Boston's considering looking into possibly bidding for the Olympics in 2024. That'd be pretty cool, huh?" When it comes to major projects in Massachusetts, the only thing that I've seen widespread interest in, from both citizens, business, and government, is the various casino proposals.

    Now, if you do have any information about other parts of the state having great interest in the games, or even within the city, please share it. It would be a valuable resource to find other like-minded people who could, in some way, shape or form, contribute to the process.

    I also grew up in Pioneer Valley/Franklin County where I was an athlete.

    I went to school and worked for a major advertising agency in Boston, was on the board of directors for Harbor to the Bay and Bostons bid for The Gay Games.

    I currently live on the Cape where I am in training.

    as I stated all three locations have house and sentate members who wrote & co-signed for the exploritory committee bill... and I did state that the general public is not who I was referring to.

    And Boston is already capable for a longtime now to host 45,000 rooms and like someone else refereed without Boston natives even noticing or breaking a sweat.. We are one of the top 5 locations to host huge national conventions and we are at the top for hotel sales and luxury hotels

  12. See, this is my thing. I was over everything that happened last month, except you have to come back and accuse us of having an agenda and twist facts when that is EXACTLY what you were doing from minute one. You talk about your "VAST amount of knowledge" and then tell ME to get off my pedestal? Oh.. and Gillette Stadium was NEVER under consideration to host a Super Bowl. That is a factually incorrect statement.

    I'm done with this. I apologize if I've come off as harsh, but this will be the last thing I say on this matter. You're on an Olympics bid forum. I don't doubt your knowledge of all things Boston, but most of us here probably know a few more things about Olympic bidding than you're willing to give us credit for. Please respect that if you're going to compare the Olympic Games to another sporting event (doesn't matter what is if you're going to try and play that card here) that, especially in the context of an Olympics bid, is not the same.

    You clearly don't know that much about Super Bowl Selection... And for your information since it's decided by the coaches of the NFL - ALL teams that have the capacity or money to build a stadium make the list :-) and since Gillette Stadium has the 2nd HIGHEST in Stadium Naming-Rights Deals delivering the most brand exposure on Broadcast TV that kinda puts them at the top of the list... They had even planned on roofing the stadium - the new stadium has sold out every game since opening.

    And for your semantics and changing context.. Gillette Stadium holds more then 6 Super Bowls a Year :-)

    Oh wait I collected some other information while I was on hiatus that I thought you would love..

    Most Valuable Professional Sports Teams:

    NFL - #2 - New England Patriots - $1.65 Billion

    MBL - #3 - Boston Red Sox - $1 Billion

    NBA - #4 - Boston Celtics - $730 Million

    NHL - #4 - Boston Bruins - $350 Million

    The Best States for.... (Massachusetts):

    Business & Careers - #17

    Labor Supply - #9

    Regulatory Environment - #42

    Economic Climate - #8

    Growth Prospects: - #16

    Quality of Life: #1

  13. It's not about the Gay Games not meeting my standards. Where did I say anything like that? Stupid thing to say.

    No, you were addressing hotel numbers. If you can't understand basic arguments about how hotels relate to ticket sales and about how the number of hotels available for a Gay Games doesn't "directly answer" the number of hotel rooms needed for an Olympics, that's not my problem.

    Whatever Rik. I tried. It seems you want to take everything personally. I've not got the time for that.

    ok READY!?

    I HAVE CLEARLY shown FACTS & FIGURES that BOSTON - HAS, CAN and WILL have the CAPACITY to PROVIDE 45,000 HOTEL ROOMS as REQUIRED by the IOC and can ACCOMMODATE and HAS ACCOMMODATED MORE THEN THAT!...

    The Gay Games topic was in regards to ATHLETES, CULTURAL MEMBERS THE BID PROCESS, OBJECTIVE, FUNDING, HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, REQUIREMENTS...

    This bickering between Quaker and Rikk has gone on for far too long. I realize you both have strong spearheaded opinions and thats wonderful. But both of you need to just agree to disagree. Here we are arguing over skematics and semantics on an event almost 14 Years off in the future. This Thread should be about Why we believe its Fesable. Thats the argument (As far as i have read throughout this thread) is : "Is Boston Able to Hold a worldclass sporting Event at the scale of the Olympic Summer Games". The argument is completly up for debate and we all have pros and cons. Of course those who are going to be for are going to highlight the limelights and those who are against are going to point out their flaws. From now on i think it would be wise to discontinue personal attacks and focus not on facts or exact figures; but rather look on the fesability of it ever happening.

    The best way i can explain it is this. Imagine if Golfito, Costa Rica said they were interested. We would research it. come up with conclusions and create our own opinions on why they can or cannot host, and from their interrogate or question each other of diffrent reasons why it would or wouldn't work. It doesnt have to come down to the numbers or exacts. We aren't the IOC and for sure this thread is not going to decide the Host City :lol: .

    Understand that any international sporting event is considered a feat to be undertaken. Yes the Gay Games may not be as large or sell as many tickets as the Olympics, But that is to be expected. BUT! What the Gay Games provide is a logistical template for any city to look at and say "This worked here, but this didn't." The Same could be said for the International Fencing Competition, The FIFA World Cup, The Super Bowl and hell even the International Ping-Pong tournument. The fact is that their are logistics at play here. And believe it or not, they do play a crucial role in a citys ability to handle such an event.

    Relax guys, take a chill pill. This should be a friendly conversation and debate. Not a tossle of words. :D

    I have done that More times then I can count!!! I have even apologized when every argument he turned personal.

    I have moved on and have been positive... All of my posts last night were direct and unbiased - Pure figures

  14. It doesn't directly answer anything to do with hotel rooms. Tickets sold for London 2012 Olympics and Paralympics, around 11 million. Tickets sold for the Gay Games, measured in the 10s of thousands as far as I can see.

    This is why people get frustrated. If you're getting basic things like this wrong, it's hard to discuss issues of viability. That's not a personal swipe, please don't take it as such.

    EDIT: I assume that maybe that was a typo and you didn't mean hotels but village requiremtns. I've no idea what the village requirements for the Gay Games are and whether there is an overlap between those and the Olympics. Perhaps you could expand your thoughts on this?

    Again you are making the the conversation to be what you think it should be about... I was not trying to address ticket sales.. Why would I, even if I had no olympic knowledge a layman would know that ticket sales for the Olympics would be astronomical..

    And PEOPLE weren't frustrated, you were... I continued to have constructive conversations with others and you would then join that conversation and change the context of those as well..

    And I will no longer address this topic, I have apologized, stated my enthusiasm took the best of me especially when it comes to writing online things you can't edit or revise. I am here to talk about an Olympic Bid for Boston in 2024, not your agenda. Either move on with me or waste your own time addressing a petty argument and every swipe has been personal, I'm sorry that the Gay Games do not meet your Standards.

  15. You were way too gung-ho when you first joined Rik and some of your attempts to sell Boston's Olympic credentials, as Quaker says, were rather odd. But as you say, there's no point keep bringing that up. Let's all move on. For me, Boston seems like an interesting city. Its borderline viability as an Olympic host and middling international recognition mean we can't either dismiss it completely as one would for smaller cities or take its hosting abilities as a given as one would for mega-cities. It's an ideal city for a thread like this, seems to me anyway.

    And I have acknowledged this, I took a break, I moved on and I came back with a new outlook and openness and eager to invest in learning from all sides..

    Quaker needs to get off his pedistal and move on as well.. Personal attacks are uncalled for and I have STATED myself that I know Boston has many battles to fight and many negatives but I also know that every issue that is against us can be fixed and changed, the only obstacle that can't be hurdled is the negative attacks that are personal and not based on the subject.

    Just like an election it doesnt matter how much proof you have or how much you try to show someone that your the best candidate there will ALWAYS be people who are just stuck in their own head and wont push their pride or lack their of it aside.

  16. new [noo, nyoo] adjective

    1. of recent origin, production, purchase, etc.; having but lately come or been brought into being: a new book.

    2. of a kind now existing or appearing for the first time; novel: a new concept of the universe.

    3. having but lately or but now come into knowledge: a new chemical element.

    4. unfamiliar or strange (often followed by to ): ideas new to us; to visit new lands.

    5. having but lately come to a place, position, status, etc.: a reception for our new minister.

    New to the subject.. no. New to the forum, yes. Many of you. I could imagine what, say, an NFL forum would be like if a bunch of fans from 1 team all showed up at once and starting posting. I have no problem with engaging in a discussion on the merits of Boston hosting an Olympics. But I should remind you that in your very first post here on this forum, this is how you introduced yourselves to us...

    You compared hosting the Olympics to hosting the Gay Games and said that the Gay Games are above par to the Olympics. In your next few posts, you proceeding to compare the capacity of Harvard Stadium to previous Winter Olympics stadia. You called Gillette Stadium (I'll leave the spelling mistake in here because it's funny), "the Future Location of Super Bowels L and XLIX". So now you're going to sit there and accuse us of twisting things to fit their agenda? If that's not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

    I'll say it again.. I admit I'm skeptical when it comes to a city like Boston aspiring to host the Olympics. So I apologize if it seems like I'm shooting down everyone's ideas and pointing out negatives where the Boston crowd is mostly looking for positives. But that's why I keep reminding you guys to tone it down with the hyperbole. To Chris's point.. it's 1 thing to play up your city and make it seem like the IOC needs to select Boston (assuming they get past the USOC first). But behind that, there does need to be a technically sound plan there. New York learned that the hard way. I remember from their presentation that it was all style and absolutely no substance. You guys have the style covered, no question. Now let's see how much real substance there is out there, especially now that the USOC has made this game very real for all the prospective host cities.

    And FYI - "OUT OF CONTEXT" your new handle... I did not COMPARE them.. I Stated Facts.. and that was on the number of athletes. The Bid Process is just as stringent, the amount of money it takes is huge and takes the same techniques to achieve. And there are MORE Athletes, MORE Cultural attendees and More Sporting Events then the Olympic games. Which directly answers any question of # of Hotel Rooms required or the ability to showcase each sport.

    Just because its more expensive, more days, more media etc. Does not discredit what I was trying to point out. PEOPLE, PROCESS, OBJECTIVE, HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, REQUIREMENTS...

    And Foxboro was on the damn list of stadiums and then removed, it's called a process and a short list!... Just because they did not ended up getting a superbowl, and just because NEW ENGLAND WEATHER would be the largest issue as stated by the coaches of all NFL teams does not my information was INCORRECT!

    Of course your skeptikal and your trying to discredit every person for your on vindictive personal agenda and if there is anyone who should be discredited its anyone who without knowledge tries to attack every single sentence another person says. Why are you in this forum?

  17. new [noo, nyoo] adjective

    1. of recent origin, production, purchase, etc.; having but lately come or been brought into being: a new book.

    2. of a kind now existing or appearing for the first time; novel: a new concept of the universe.

    3. having but lately or but now come into knowledge: a new chemical element.

    4. unfamiliar or strange (often followed by to ): ideas new to us; to visit new lands.

    5. having but lately come to a place, position, status, etc.: a reception for our new minister.

    New to the subject.. no. New to the forum, yes. Many of you. I could imagine what, say, an NFL forum would be like if a bunch of fans from 1 team all showed up at once and starting posting. I have no problem with engaging in a discussion on the merits of Boston hosting an Olympics. But I should remind you that in your very first post here on this forum, this is how you introduced yourselves to us...

    You compared hosting the Olympics to hosting the Gay Games and said that the Gay Games are above par to the Olympics. In your next few posts, you proceeding to compare the capacity of Harvard Stadium to previous Winter Olympics stadia. You called Gillette Stadium (I'll leave the spelling mistake in here because it's funny), "the Future Location of Super Bowels L and XLIX". So now you're going to sit there and accuse us of twisting things to fit their agenda? If that's not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

    I'll say it again.. I admit I'm skeptical when it comes to a city like Boston aspiring to host the Olympics. So I apologize if it seems like I'm shooting down everyone's ideas and pointing out negatives where the Boston crowd is mostly looking for positives. But that's why I keep reminding you guys to tone it down with the hyperbole. To Chris's point.. it's 1 thing to play up your city and make it seem like the IOC needs to select Boston (assuming they get past the USOC first). But behind that, there does need to be a technically sound plan there. New York learned that the hard way. I remember from their presentation that it was all style and absolutely no substance. You guys have the style covered, no question. Now let's see how much real substance there is out there, especially now that the USOC has made this game very real for all the prospective host cities.

    Oh here we go again... MOVE ON!... Your personal attacks are ridiculous and juvenile and have no place here. I have a VAST amount of knowledge on this subject and this city and just because

    I may have been to passionate about something or posted something that you have personal issue with but that does not discredit ME, or my information. As you can see I have pulled my own reigns and took some time off from this forum and came back on a new level. Nobody here needs you to keep them in check

  18. I would like to thank those who have been contributory figures with some significant issues that need to be studied and addressed, I have personally found them very helpful and regardless if you think Boston is a Viable candiate or not I think that positive communication is vital for any cities bid process, we can all learn from each others bid process and help others as well.. A US Olympic Bid Win is a Win for the entire Country.

  19. Yeesh, thats a lot of drama going on...

    Anyway, Rik, I've gotta temper your enthusiasm there. The rest of the state is still holding a grudge against Boston for the Big Dig. Almost nobody in the state is aware that there's interest in bidding for the Olympics, and I don't think the majority of the population outside of the 495 beltway cares much one way or the other. Not that they'd necessarily be opposed, but there's a world of difference between that and "ready willing and pumped."

    I know the appeal of pure boosterism can be quite tempting, but there's no need to deliver sales pitches on an internet forum. Lets just continue to look at the nuts and bolts and see what problems and opportunities there are.

    I don't think anyone should temper anyones enthusiasm nor do I think anyone has the right or responsibility to do so LOL.. and Being a member of ALL of these communities I do if fact know that these areas are "Ready, Willing & Pumped!" in the exploratory process of a Boston Bid. ALL of these locations have BIG ties with not only Current Local Olympic Heroes but are also Locations where Sports were Created and are cultivated to this very day.

    But since you are not in the everyday I don't know how you can say what their feelings are, I made it clear that I was commenting on personal knowledge, just because something has not been put into the press does not mean that knowledge of the endeavor is unknown, especially to the people who may or may not be directly involved in making an event like this come to life.

  20. How are the people who started the Thread "New"? LOL.. just because we are new to your forum does not makes us new on this subject.. but as I have learned from earlier game play conversations, anytime you post a rebuttal or facts to support your topic or argument the "Alumni" like to attack, and twist everything to fit their AGENDA, which is to dismiss anything you post...

    So as I commented in the beginning I am no longer engaging in conversation with those members, and will continue to communicate with those who have a clear vision and conversations that enlighten both sides positive and negative of this conversation...

    - there are over 10,000 hotel rooms currently in development in Boston which is #5 in the country for Conventions of this size and larger.

    - 87% of Bostons hotel market are Luxury Hotels
    - Boston is the 4th Ranked LEED Certified State this year. (NYC 7th)
    - 2012's 4th Quarter was the Strongest Quarter in Five Years for the U.S. Building Martet - Boston had the 2nd Highest in the Country
    - No denying the MBTA would need upgrades, but just a note there are Currently HUGE upgrades already taking place and many projects have been completed in the past 2yrs
    - The Boston Redevelopment broke ground on 22 Projects last year and 37 this year, we are the only city who not only continued building during the recession but the only city able to approve new projects and we are leading a huge building boom, there are 6 new high-rises, being built all of which include hotels, as well as Bostons 4th Tallest Building at 60 Stories.

    I believe that that Boston Redevelopment Authority and the Massachusetts Convention Authorities as well as the Hotel Market would take HUGE Pride in not only making this happen in Boston but funding or finding funding, they have approved billions in the "Innovation Districts" of our city and we have been recognized as the most Innovative City in the Country...

    And Senate & House Members from every County of Massachusetts have co-signed the Exploratory Committee Bill for Boston 2024 and Living not only in Boston, Provincetown and Western Mass I know that all of those locations are ready, willing, and PUMPED to support Boston 2024.

    "Taxachusetts" a long standing nickname, primarily because its fun to say was extinguished long ago... Do we go by state mottos now to chose an Olympic City because NH should win then for sure "Live Free or Die!" -
    State Business Tax Climate Ranks - 2012/2013
    Overall Rank: 22nd
    Corporate Tax: 33rd
    Individual Income Tax: 15th

    Sales Tax: 17th
    Property Tax: 47th
    Unemployment Insurance Tax: 49th


    ALL of the IOC Documents: Archived, Current & Future can be found here: http://www.olympic.org/documents-reports-studies-publications

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