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  1. Over 95% of Patriots fans use cars to get to Foxboro, but there is a sort of light rail line from Boston to the stadium. It won't be able to get more than maybe 6,000 fans to the stadium, but every bit helps.

    Are they choosing to limit the temporary stadium to 60,000 due to cost or the size of the site? The difference between 69,000 and 60,000 isn't that much anyway, so it does seem strange to choose Foxboro over Boston for the opening ceremonies.

    Fun Fact: There are more than twice as many parking spaces in Gillette Stadium’s parking lots as there are parking meters in all of Boston.

    Also Kraft and the MBTA signed a deal last week to start daily commuter rail service and a new train station called "Foxborough - Patriot Place at Gillette Stadium" starting in December 2016

  2. Quite frankly. when I think of innovative, Tokyo/Japan pops into my mind. It seems that Japan is always coming up with these nifty little techs to slightly simplify life. Boston is also "innovative" but it's a different kind that's more for not-average-Joe-usage.

    Just a few: :-)

    Facebook

    DropBox

    Carbonite

    Zipcar

    TripAdvisor

    iRobot

    Runkeeper

    LogMeIn

    Dribbble

    Wordstream

    Constant Contact

    Actifico

    Leaf

    Hubspot

    WayFair

    Akamai

    Bizo

    Basho

    Rethink Robotics

    MassChallenge

    Lumenpulse

    TechStars

    Locu

    Newsle

    HowAboutWe

    TaskRabbit

    Acacia Communications

    XL Hybrids

    Harvest Power

    Spindle

    Plastiq

    Recorded Future

    Formlabs

    Bow & Drape

    Ubersense

    Yesware

    CustomMade

    Fetchnotes

    Kibits

    Ministry of Supply

    Flashnotes

    Kinvey

    Boundless

    Philo (formerly Tivli)

    Ginger.io

    Ovuline

    Careport Health

    Gazelle

  3. All this innovation talk is NOTHING. Atlanta was nothing but the home of Coca-Cola and MLK when it won. Sochi was nothing but a backwater blueprint when it won. Yeah, the 'cache' of being a technology hub may help a little -- but it's not that much of a major factor. Hell, Israel is a major 'technology hub and incubator' and you know they score no points in being a serious Olympic host for at least the next 30 years.

    I don't totally disagree on that... just commenting on the fact Innovation is one of Boston's main objectives everyday not just for the Olympics and giving sourced information for the people who say Boston is not one of the top cities in Innovation. We have top Innovators in all categories.

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  4. Just for fun I looked back and I mentioned Boston being #1 in Innovation back in January, February 2013 & January, June of 2014.
    of course there was back and fourth arguments but actually a couple of you stood up for me when others said Boston had never ranked as a top Innovative City ;-)

    Boston has been ranked #1 (2009-2013) , #2 (2007-2008), #4 (2014) and has always in the top 10. By 2ThinkNow which is the Global Innovation Agency is the most comprehensive city ranking and scoring in this field.

    The yearly ranking index is scored for innovation on 3 factors:
    Cultural Assets: Measurable sources of ideas (e.g. designers, art galleries, sports, museums, dance, nature, etc)

    Human Infrastructure: Soft and hard infrastructure to implement innovation (transport, universities, business, venture capital, office space, government, technology, etc.)

    Networked Markets: Basic conditions and connections for innovation (location, military, economies of related entities etc)

    Based on those scores the cities are graded into award categories:
    NEXUS: Critical nexus for multiple economic and social innovation segments

    HUB: Dominance or influence on key economic and social innovation segments , based on global trends

    NODE: Broad performance across many innovation segments, with key imbalances

    INFLUENCER: Competitive in some segments, potential or imbalanced

    UPSTART: Potential steps towards relative future performance in a few innovation segments.

    http://www.innovation-cities.com/

  5. It's funny I have posted on here about Boston being one of the top Innovative cities 100 times... There is even the Boston Innovation District which is where the 2024 Offices are located and the new District Hall for Innovation.

    Most of their promotional materials to date have been produced by people for school, projects or for fun and they have had a message that worked for the group so it was used.. They have not put much $$$ behind any design, imagery or videography.

  6. Definitely looks more like Chase Bank logo. Oh and it's nice to see Citgo making a cameo appearance.

    AFD-081120-041.giflooks more like the US Air Force logo to me

    /\/\ I thought at first that this was an ad for J.P. Morgan Chase.

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    It's a stylized victory laurel from the marathon and is supposed to evoke Boston's background in Innovation...

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  7. What action would you like taken against them? And by whom? I know you are taken aback by anyone who doesn't fully support the Boston 2024 Olympic effort but regardless of their actions and intentions, it can't be ignored that there is opposition to holding an Olympics in Boston, particularly if they are this loud. We know this is par for the course for virtually any city bidding for the Olympics, but it's not like a lawsuit against them will shut them up or make them go away.

    My thoughts exactly. Okay Rik, you get your wish, let's discuss Agenda 2020 here. Tell us how you believe this affects Boston's bid relative to the other cities bidding for the Olympics. Which is to say.. how does Agenda 2020 help Boston beat out the competition, first domestically and then internationally. You can't tell us it's a big deal for Boston as if it means nothing for LA or DC or San Fran. Boston still needs to win the approval of the USOC before any of this becomes beneficial for them.

    Thats funny because I have never been against someone who doesnt want Boston I've only said 1,000 times which you choose to ignore that I think Boston should be the first US City to bid for the Youth Olympics..

    And the IOC and USOC take action against Copyright infringement on a DAILY basis... I don't care what city it is The Olympic name is not something that should be associated with a negative action against a city or group and they're profiting from it taking donations and selling products, they also post complete lies and no facts if they had facts they would have more support and respect.

    The rest I will continue to ignore, I dont care how much each of you attack me I know my worth is outside of this thread I enjoy watching people with no knowledge argue about things that have nothing to do with our bid or the games.

    Like you, I am someone who only comments in the Boston 2024 bid. My limited participation probably doesn't I grew up in Massachusetts and sometimes I feel that my local knowledge is worthwhile. However, I am not arrogant enough to assume that the rest of GB ought to shut down just to cater to us Boston enthusiasts.

    My limited participation probably doesn't

    Too bad there's no option to edit one's posts here.

    I concur however I have never been arrogant. I am constantly attacked just to be attacked they never actually respond on the facts or things i post because they know it's the truth, they always instantly go after me, or grammar, or spelling or say it's the wrong thread when this is the only thread that we had all the conversations on, etc. etc. etc.

    Assuming we take the Agenda 2020 folks at their world, how does this help Boston?

    I don't really see much need for Boston to move events outside the metro area. The only thing that really makes sense to me would be putting tennis in New Haven, which they probably could have gotten away with without any 2020 mumbo-jumbo.

    There are 40 parts of Agenda 2020 and it determines if pretty much any city will bid further. Clearly no one follows any part of this or how all the 2022 cities said if the Agenda had passed sooner they would have never dropped out...

  8. The topic is Boston 2024. Agenda 2020 has a different thread with it as main topic. If you have CONCRETE points of discussion what A2020 means for a Boston bid, this is the place. If you want to join a GENERAL debate about A2020, go to the other thread and stop your condescending attitude.

    I wasn't debating anything I was just pointing out that I was surprised that no one had commented on it when we have debated on it a lot and because it's a bigger topic of concern than old news Mr. Kraft. That is all. Then per usual I was attacked for no reason

  9. I wanted to ask everyone's opinion on the fact that the "No Boston Olympics" group has some MAJOR copyright infringements on all of their sites, interviews and the fact they're profiting from both written intellectual property but also visual logos etc.

    Do you think action should be taken against them? I am pretty amazed that they sent physical letters to both the IOC and USOC with those blaring infringements.

  10. As expected typical forum games. Agenda 2020 was one of the number one debates and arguments in this Specific room and this happens everytime you guys gang up and attack me when I post supporting facts and news you don't respond and make up some crazy response like its in another thread. Agenda 2020 is specific to EVERY future bid or the Olympics future so it's just as relevant here than anywhere else and more so because the Agenda will determine if the USA even bids.

    And this is the exact reason I sit and laugh at every post and only post when there is actual relevant information.

    This is such petty crap LOL are you guys incapable of just staying on topic?.

  11. Humm that's funny last I checked if someone posts something in a specific room/thread you respond in that specific location, it's not in my interest to read the same contradictive statements in multiple locations.

    It's been a number #1 topic of convo and debate in this specific room so either folks don't want to admit the changes are going to happen, that I was right on this specific topic or they're just playing the typical forum games.

    And as I have stated previously this is the number #1 most popular viewed and responded to thread regarding future bids other than Toronto which is irrelevant and started 2+ years before Boston...

  12. Really no comments on the newly announced Agenda 2020 recommendations!?

    That's what every bid in the future is going to be determined by LOL. I almost posted Bob Kraft on here like all my personal sites but it's been the plan since day one so figured it was old news in comparison to the more important Agenda.

    P.S. go New englad Revolution. 2nd in the league in the MLS Playoff semi-finals and achieved the 3rd highest MLS attendance record 2 weeks ago. (in fact their last 5 home games have been over 20k; their avg is 14k)

  13. Hot off the Press:
    "It’s time to change the future of The Olympic Games!" Here are the IOC's just released recommendations which will make the Games a total new experience from bidding all the way through hosting legacies!

    "Olympic Agenda 2020: the strategic roadmap for the future of the Olympic Movement unveiled"

    http://www.olympic.org/fr/news/agenda-olympique-2020-la-feuille-de-route-strategique-pour-l-avenir-du-mouvement-olympique-devoilee/241063

  14. Also I've said it before but this is not the same as past bids. The USOC has people working with each city everyday.

    They don't want 1 great bid and 3 duds they want the 4 best possible applicants they have had.

    Boston is a very smart city with a very smart committee they're not sitting there risking a dud bid with a 60,000 seat stadium unless they were already given approval on this. The other cities have 80k because they're using existing stadiums or are building one for someone other than just the Olympics.

    Chicago was the front runner and destroyed their bid by giving the IOC an ultimatum that if they had to pay for overruns that they would only pay up to 750m and anything more was on the iOC. That is not something that Is ever going to happen here again all of the bids will be carefully put together with all parties working together NOC + USOC + IOC with or without the very popular 2020 Agenda going through or not.

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  15. London was largely a success in terms of ticketing. We didn't see empty morning sessions in athletics like in previous Games and whilst there were visible blocks of empty seats at some events, they were mostly seats for sports federations and their families and entourages which went unused. These were tickets London had to reserve as a certain number have to be set aside for this purpose.

    The IOC has promised to change things for future Games in terms of these allocations....We'll see if they manage to.

    Of course, some less popular events didn't sell out, but overall the picture was better than most previous Games.

    Yes Yes Yes I totally agree with everyone but it should be noted that all the events were not sold out and the empty seats were free and in very large blocks.

    but that document is an IOC marketing overview, and is made for every games with not a negative word to be found.

    The ticketing situation is being investigated by the IOC and a private firm and until the final London report comes out we won't know the truth behind it all and they put the things that went wrong and that they learned from what happened until then everything will be "it was the best games ever"

  16. Every session in London was sold out. Every session in a US Olympics would be sold out, I can guarantee that. T&F is a top 3 Olympic sport in the US.

    Huh who told you that!? media. They made some huge mistakes with the way they did ticketing.

    The only actual sellouts were Track cycling, triathlon, rhythmic gymnastics, modern pentathlon, equestrian cross country most swimming, tennis, Volleyball and both the opening and closing ceremonies.

    There were THOUSANDS of visable empty seats at all the biggest events including the ones listed above and more then one fith to HALF of those events are reserved free for "family" and sponsors not sold to the public so those free empty seats lay empry with no show and the public gets to stand outside wondering why they can't buy those tickets.

    Opening and Closing are the only time you need that kind of capacity and they can also supplement with temporary seating.

    plus why not for the people who can't afford it you charge half for a viewing area with huge screens and sound in another stadium or outdoors like they did in Rio for the world cup?

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  17. (sigh) So.. I'm right on Rio, London, Athens, and Atlanta, wrong on the other 2. See Rik, this is 1 of those situations where you did far better research and have better information than I do (that's what I get for doing a quick and dirty search on Wikipedia), and you're right. But is it necessary to be a dick about it? I have a lot more respect for your knowledge and expertise right now, although I still wonder why you still only post in the Boston thread and not elsewhere since clearly you have more of an interest in Olympic bidding than we gave you credit for.

    Thank you for sharing this with us and yea, in a respect, making some of us look foolish. I guess we deserve that on this one. Nevertheless, we haven't forgotten your history here, so (and not to speak for everyone else here) wouldn't it be more fun to play nice with us rather than to take any questioning of a Boston 2024 Olympic bid as a personal insult? You obviously have some good insight and information to offer, but if you're going to continue to post in the Boston bid and nowhere else on this site, forgive the rest of us for being a little confused as to what you're interested in here and what information you are or aren't able to contribute.

    LOL I wasn't being a dick at all I was just clarifying since 18 people have said 18 different things in the last 24hrs, but you were a dick right there... Per usual.

    LOL I wasn't being a dick at all I was just clarifying since 18 people have said 18 different things in the last 24hrs, but you were a dick right there... Per usual.

    You're literally ridiculous... absolutely nothing I said had anything to do with me wanting Boston to win the Bid or Not! I have only said 100 times I think we should be the first US city to bid for the YOUTH Olympics LOL.. I don't take anything about this personally until you ATTACK me directly. Everytime I post actual information you instally come at me rather than talking about the facts and topic..

    LOL I wasn't being a dick at all I was just clarifying since 18 people have said 18 different things in the last 24hrs, but you were a dick right there... Per usual.

    You're literally ridiculous... absolutely nothing I said had anything to do with me wanting Boston to win the Bid or Not! I have only said 100 times I think we should be the first US city to bid for the YOUTH Olympics LOL.. I don't take anything about this personally until you ATTACK me directly. Everytime I post actual information you instally come at me rather than talking about the facts and topic..

    And to answer your question, this is the #1 thread with views and responses far above USA and everything else except "Toronto" and thats only because it was started 3 years before the Boston one. There is no need for me to post in the others when all of the cities get talked about in here...

    Also I have looked at those threads and quite a few people have taken the negative things they said verbatim about those cities and said them in here about Boston lol.

    I Was not trying to be rude I was just trying to post factual statistics without getting yelled at for putting any personal feelings in it but you put those in there for me :-(

    LOL I wasn't being a dick at all I was just clarifying since 18 people have said 18 different things in the last 24hrs, but you were a dick right there... Per usual.

    You're literally ridiculous... absolutely nothing I said had anything to do with me wanting Boston to win the Bid or Not! I have only said 100 times I think we should be the first US city to bid for the YOUTH Olympics LOL.. I don't take anything about this personally until you ATTACK me directly. Everytime I post actual information you instally come at me rather than talking about the facts and topic..

    And to answer your question, this is the #1 thread with views and responses far above USA and everything else except "Toronto" and thats only because it was started 3 years before the Boston one. There is no need for me to post in the others when all of the cities get talked about in here...

    Also I have looked at those threads and quite a few people have taken the negative things they said verbatim about those cities and said them in here about Boston lol.

    I Was not trying to be rude I was just trying to post factual statistics without getting yelled at for putting any personal feelings in it but you put those in there for me :-(

    And by "those figures" I should have said Wikipedia's since that's what I meant, I apologize.

  18. In doing some research, that 15,000 number doesn't seem right. Here are the volleyball venues for the last 7 Olympics (including Rio)

    Rio - Maracanãzinho Arena (12,000)
    London - Earls Court (15,000)
    Beijing - Beijing Institute of Technology Gymnasium (5,000)
    Athens - Peace and Friendship Stadium (not listed, probably approximately 13,000)
    Sydney - The Dome and Exhbition Complex (10,000) + final at Sydney Entertainment Centre (11,000)
    Atlanta - Stegeman Coliseum (10,000) ** - This venue was in Athens, GA which is a good 90 minutes outside of Atlanta + final at The Omni (16,500)
    Barcelona - Palau dels Esports de Barcelona (8,000)
    Only 1 hits 15,000. The rest are smaller.
    It would help Boston to be able to produce an extra indoor arena or 2 with capacity of over 10,000. If the next best they have to go with after the Garden is Conte Forum, that could be a problem.

    Those Numbers are actually incorrect as well... So are the "required" capacity, which they're not required. The IOC Recommends for each sport based on popularity but the final decision goes to each individual sports federation.

    Here are the actual standards from the IOC:

    "Technical Manual on Venues – Design Standards for Competition Venues"

    • 3.0 - Competition Venues:

    This section outlines the number of competition venues and venue gross seating capacities, generic venue spaces and explains the method of developing the venue design standards and the structure of the matrices for competition venues.

    Important Note

    The Design Standards for Competition Venues are not requirements unless stated in the matrix and are established as a guide for venue design.

    The number of competition venues and venue gross seating capacities are important components of venue design for the Olympic Games. There are certain variations in the number of venues and factors that influence venue gross seating capacities should be considered when determining the final number of venues and the final venue gross seating capacities.

    Determining Final Venue Capacities:

    For each Olympic Games these capacities must be considered with the following points in mind before determining final venue capacities:

    • Capacity of any existing venue to be used,

    • Capacity of any new venue for legacy use post-Games,

    • Popularity of the sport in the host city, region and/or country or within the Olympic Games

    • The ability to increase capacity on a temporary basis for Games use.

    Venue Gross Seating Capacity - Summer

    • Volleyball - (PRE-LONDON)
      • ​Indoor - 12,000
      • Beach - 12,000
    • Volleyball - (POST-LONDON) - Because it was the largest & 5th most popular sport
      • ​Indoor - 15,000
      • Beach - 12,000

    Actual Venue Capacities from each of the IOC's "Official Reports of The Games"

    • ATLANTA
      • Indoors:
        • Omni Coliseum (Pre,Semi,Quart,Final) - 16,500
        • University of George Coliseum (10 Prelims) - 10,000
      • Beach:
        • Atlanta Beach (Stadium Court) - 9,600
        • Atlanta Beach (Grandstand Court) - 3,000
    • SYDNEY
      • Indoors:
        • Sydney Entertainment Centre - 11,000
        • Sydney Showgrown Pavilion 4, SOP - 6,000
      • Beach:
        • Bondi Beach - 10,000
    • ATHENS
      • Indoors:
        • The Peace and Friendship Stadium - 13,200
      • Beach:
        • Faliro Olympic Beach Volleyball Centre - 9,600
    • BEIJING
      • Indoors:
        • Capital Gymnasium - 17,000
        • Beijing Institute of Technology Gymnasium - 3,680
      • Beach:
        • Chaoyang Park Beach Volleyball Court - 12,000
    • LONDON
      • Indoors:
        • Earls Court Exhibition Centre - 15,000
      • Beach:
        • Horse Guards Parade - 15,000
    • RIO
      • Indoors:
        • Maracanãzinho Arena - 12,000
      • Beach:
        • Copacabana Stadium - 12,000
  19. What about Salt Lake City 1972 do you have that one?

    The people who care are the USOC, go look at Chicago and LA 2016 and tell me renderings did not show a difference between the effort either city was willing to put forth. Now going on to specifics Los Angles has more venues then Boston that are sports specific, many of the other sporting venues are either under construction now or will be temporary and utilize existing and iconic structures. Los Angeles' airport renovation has been on going and the bid does not propose massive expansions, only slight adjustments because by 2024 LAX will have already experienced the expansions necessary. To compare or even say that Boston has a more 'Olympic ready' airport then LA is a ridiculous statement, Boston may be a big and might I add gorgeous city but LAX is one of the nations top airports ranking close to Atlanta. LA's transportation system also already exists, it is only undergoing expansions of which will be done regardless of the outcome of the event.

    We never attacked you, but the bid. The problem is that you view Boston as the best city in the world and expect us to not scrutinize it in the same way we do every single bid. It has been said many times the Gamesbids probably picks apart any bid more then the NOC's or IOC. You have chosen to take our critiques on the bid personally. And if this makes you feel better, you are not the first person here to annoy others. I know for a fact that I have annoyed others (and probably still do) so do not take that as a hash out on you.

    I also would not call you the 'savior of this thread', by all means this thread is pointless given there is a USA 2024 thread already existing. By all means your comments have shown that for the most part you have been troubled with accepting the faults and inconsistencies within the bid and its team.

    See it's constant you take what I write, pull it apart, add things and completely make up everything I say... Never have I put forth that boston is the best or better then anyone else.. EVER.

    And I am not even commenting on the rest because you changed the context of everything I said and I am done defending things I never said...

    Continue the banter about nothing and making assumptions & accusations about things that have been explained in plain english like where the money for this Boston bid is coming from.

    See it's constant you take what I write, pull it apart, add things and completely make up everything I say... Never have I put forth that boston is the best or better then anyone else.. EVER.

    And I am not even commenting on the rest because you changed the context of everything I said and I am done defending things I never said...

    Continue the banter about nothing and making assumptions & accusations about things that have been explained in plain english like where the money for this Boston bid is coming from.

    Any and every time I have ever taken something personally is something you said directly about me, not about the bid. Period.

    See it's constant you take what I write, pull it apart, add things and completely make up everything I say... Never have I put forth that boston is the best or better then anyone else.. EVER.

    And I am not even commenting on the rest because you changed the context of everything I said and I am done defending things I never said...

    Continue the banter about nothing and making assumptions & accusations about things that have been explained in plain english like where the money for this Boston bid is coming from.

    Any and every time I have ever taken something personally is something you said directly about me, not about the bid. Period.

    I'd also like to point out that under the "Future Bid Discussions" this thread is the Most Viewed, Most Responded to and First Posted other than "Toronto"

  20. Really? Do you have the LA 1976 bid book and Madrid 1972? I would love to see them.

    To go on to your other points none of those have been canceled and the Olympics would only ramp up their construction. You would also know that their renderings are far superior to Bostons (ATM). And if you do google you will find many of the renderings from the LA plan which all provide links to the sources. Google itself is not a source, but a tool to find information.

    For the hell of it here are some of the renders:

    la2024logo.png

    2024-olympic-bid-p12_0001.jpg

    Los-Angeles-Olympics-2024.png

    Screen%20Shot%202014-05-02%20at%208.28.2

    2870203.png

    Yes I do infact... go buy them you can have them too if you can find them :-)...

    And I don't need to google anything I already have them like I said... Nobody cares about random renderings of a remodel and yes all of their venues are built because none of them are designed for sports.. .We can go put our Taekwondo in Symphony Hall..

    What's amusing is I never compared either city, I never said Bostons choices were better and I never said LA's were worse.

    This group goes silent for weeks and then I post facts and announcements and then you automatically start attacking me personally, and everything you have said in here about boston you have said verbatim about LA in their thread.

    Cool they have to build a new Airport to accommodate the Olympics, Boston's is already done. Cool they have to build an entire Public Transportation System from scratch, ours only needs to be upgraded which is already planned... That is comparing something I haven't done.

    Rather then coming after me for posting actual facts attack the ignorant people who don't even know what the bids are. Like nacre who just said Boston has to tear down the city and build or have their Stadium at Gillette which has never been in the bid just the media. Or the whootsuite who accused Boston of being inexperienced and sketchy for not releasing a public bid book when LA released theirs before they were even short listed, half the projects have lost support since and were asked by the USOC to remove all bid books and renderings from online because none of the 4 cities were supposed to publish them yet.

    There is not one file, pdf, photo that you have and I need. Guaranteed, hate all you want I havent been some upbeat BOSTON BOSTON person or everyone else sucks kinda guy so continue to ignore the facts and attack me instead of responding to the actual topic of conversation, it's par for the course on this thread since day one.

  21. Yay! A bash-off!

    They aren't required to share that! and since you're going off of released info why don't we continue, eh?

    There is an actual trial that can take you up the mountain and around the Hollywood sign. I think that's what they mean?

    *cough* Franklin Park

    Oh joy! have you been Google Image searching? If you must know, the leaked prelim plans had numerous renderings of LAX, the Olympic Park (Expo Park), the Athletes' Village, Olympic Live, Farmers Field, the LA River, the Downtown cluster, and even maps and diagrams to support.

    I'm guessing you haven't even seen their PDF, correct?

    *trail

    No not correct in fact since I have every bid document and final reports from every Olympics to date.

    Premature? they were told to remove it.

    Farmers - cancelled, LA River not funded and mostly tabled... Where are all your amounts for these projects listed since thats what you're asking for from Boston private pre-approved projects. LA has not even released an estimated operating budget.

    And that is the function of Franklin Park LOL

    No not correct in fact since I have every bid document and final reports from every Olympics to date.

    Premature? they were told to remove it.

    Farmers - cancelled, LA River not funded and mostly tabled... Where are all your amounts for these projects listed since thats what you're asking for from Boston private pre-approved projects. LA has not even released an estimated operating budget.

    And that is the function of Franklin Park LOL

    And Google Search is the last thing I would ever do for a resource here. If you Google Boston Bid Books you can find at least 10 by individuals

  22. *cough* LA River revitalization (happening even w/out the Olympics), *cough* Metro expansion (happening even w/out the Olympics), *cough* Metrolink, *cough* Amtrak *cough* LAX revitalization (happening even w/out the Olympics), *cough* Starting formation of narrative (diversity, reinvention, history, and innovation), *cough* renderings. *cough* good graphics (sucker for good graphics, here)

    and by fairy tale, did you mean magical ;):P

    So where is their estimated operating budget? They have not announced one COUGH!

    And by Fairy tale I mean -

    the Walt Disney Concert Hall for taekwondo

    the Nokia Theater for fencing

    the Hollywood Sign for Cycling

    Rodeo Drive for the Triathlon

    and the Griffith Park Observatory which has no place for any spectators and would destroy the grounds

    *cough* LA River revitalization (happening even w/out the Olympics), *cough* Metro expansion (happening even w/out the Olympics), *cough* Metrolink, *cough* Amtrak *cough* LAX revitalization (happening even w/out the Olympics), *cough* Starting formation of narrative (diversity, reinvention, history, and innovation), *cough* renderings. *cough* good graphics (sucker for good graphics, here)

    and by fairy tale, did you mean magical ;):P

    And they have 1 Rendering of an already existing structure that has been updated and a worse website then Boston... the ONLY good Graphic they have over us all is their Logo

    DC has the best website

  23. If we're going to talk about Olympics in the United States making a profit.. should we bring up the amount of taxpayer money the Salt Lake organizing committee received to make that happen. I believe the number is around $1.3 billion.

    So you just brought up 3 examples of organizing committees who make mistakes that made their Olympics more costly. I just offered up a 4th. Obviously what happened with Greece wouldn't be replicated with the United States. But again, budget overruns and other issues are practically inevitable with the Olympics. And with all due respect to Boston, this is the city that gave us the big dig. So again, forgive the rest of us where we're a little skeptical that Boston is going to be able to do this all better than previous Olympic hosts or that the IOC's new agenda (this is still the IOC we're talking about.. not exactly the most forthright and trustworthy organization out there) means everything has changed. This is not all as simple as it sounds, and aside from the fact Boston needs to be selected by the USOC both any of this can be put to the test, history tells us this will all get a lot more complicated going forward.

    What happened to cities not putting out information until it was time? What we're privy to as the public (which is a function of what gets reported) does not necessarily correlate to what's going on behind the scenes and when it comes down to it, that's all that matters.

    BTW DC's estimated budget is $3 Billion and they have less than we do..

    Also if you need to use Wikipedia for your facts you should fact check and look in the right columns.. $600 Million taxpayer contribution which is not correct and the $1.3 billion figure you got was 100% for Olympic Security which is an expense for every US Olympics. Salt Lake had a budget of $1.9 billion which was reduced to $1.5 they had over a $100 million profit which they used for the local sports and paid money back to the federal government which was not even something they were required or needed to do.

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