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  1. If you are looking at a bid in this part of the world, then Auckland, New Zealand might get a look in ahead of the likes of Brisbane and Perth. There would certainly be the ability to have the infrastructure required with the redevelopment/development of facilities to be used for a games and as the leading city within the country with the possibility that the facilities would always be used then this would provide the legacy.
  2. The irony is Lillehammer is 1 venue short of being able to host 2022. The games have grown since 1994 but so have the infrastructure links ... weren't these touted as why Kvitfjell and Hatfjell could be used by Oslo ... how about the other way around?? A missed opportunity by both Norway and the IOC to show small games could work I think 2026 will reveal a new process
  3. After Brazil, Russia and Qatar, Canada would definitely be a safe pair of hands. I think the chaotic reference with regard to 2014 was due to the nature of the building works. The stadium in Sao Paolo had not even had a close to capacity crowed before it held the opening game. Whilst it will be a big ask for Canada to host the World Cup, new or redeveloped stadia in Vancouver, Winnipeg, Regina, Ottawa and Hamilton can all be temporarily expanded to meet the minimum requirement of capacity. Calgary will likely join the stadium building club soon, whilst Edmonton's stadium can be updated. The CFL might have reached the Atlantic with a new Halifax stadium. Montreal's Olympic stadium can have its roof removed and can be dug down removing where the running track was to provide a capacity of 70,000 seats, leaving only Toronto as an issue Can the Toronto Rogers arena be used? Will Toronto accept only earlier games allowing the BMO Field to be used? Or can a new stadium of 25,000 seats be built for the Argonauts .... with the ability to add a temporary expansion to 65,000 seats meaning Toronto can host the opening game? Agreement with CFL could allow their season in 2026 to start two weeks later meaning the stadia would be available Final: Montreal - 73,000 seats Semi: Edmonton 60,000 seats, Vancouver 60,000 seats QF: above plus Toronto 65,000 seats L16: above plus Winnipeg 40,000 seats, Regina 40,000 seats, Ottawa 45,000 seats, Halifax 40,000 seats Groups: above plus Toronto BMO stadium 40,000 seats, Hamilton, 40,000 seats, Calgary 40, 000 seats 11 stadia, 10 cities - 3 new build, 1 major update
  4. The new Singapore National Stadium has sliding stands over a possible track, whilst London's Olympic Stadium is having this retrofitted
  5. Whilst Copenhagen has a number of supposed weaknesses they can actually be also be perceived as strengths 1. It is a capital city which is something the IOC like 2. Whilst lacking some infrastructure, the Danes have proven with the Oresund Bridge, the Fixed Belt Link and all likelihood the Fehrmann Tunnel link, major projects costing billions are brought in, on time and under budget 3. Denmark is one of the least corrupt countries in the world - officially 4. As a city it has metro population of just under 2million but include the Oresund region and you double it. And when workers in Copenhagen can easily commute from home in Malmo, clearly it is easy to get around. The Fehrmann link, scheduled to open in 2021 will ease access from Northern Germany. 5. It is the IOC - not USOC and they ask for a main stadium of 60,000 seats+. Nice to have more for the ceremonies but also embarrassing if you only have a few thousand for R1 of qualifying and it is not the USA. Everyone likes the Danes, whilst for some IOC members it will be a case of voting for anyone but
  6. Having hosted the Commonwealth Games, and also the Rugby World Cup, clearly the answer is that NZ can hold large sporting events so the answer would be YES. This would especially true of the Winter Olympics where such facilities as bobsleigh runs and ski jumps would undoubtedly get used as part of Summer training facilities.
  7. With a full sized running track around a regulation sized football pitch there is clearly enough space to put a 115m x 100m Temporary Arena on top of it. Doh
  8. Not really They are saying Norway for the size of country has had too many games - despite being the leading Winter Olympic nation it will only have been 3 times in 98 years if they are successful in 2022 And lets not forget there are physical limitations on who can actually host. Yes there are additional sports but funny - Lillehammer, Gjovik and Hamar have actually grown in size as cities since 1994. Transportation links have improved massively since 1994 and it is much easier for people to come into the area on a daily basis. If the idea is to have a compact bid, then having all the sports in close proximity makes just as much sense. In which case they could've chosen to use Norefjell as the alpine sites and had a more compact and new looking bid if different was the aim
  9. Its a pity that Norway went with Oslo rather than go with a pure Lillehammer 2022. People will say that the area is not big enough, but in reality even though the games has grown since 1994, in terms of facilities Lillehammer has almost everything you might want already in place. From 1994, you still have Hamar Olympic Hall - 10,600 - the Viking Ship for speed skating Hakon Hall - 10,500 which is enough for Ice Hockey 1 Gjovik Hall - 6,000 which was the Ice Hockey 2 hall in 1994 Hamar Olympic Amphitheatre - 6,091 for the 1994 Figure Skating Kristins Hall in Lillehammer which was used for Ice Hockey training and can hold up to 4,000 people The Stampesletta Idrettspark has enough area for an 8-lane running track stadium, 3 grass football fields and gravel training areas. When you consider that the Temporary Basketball Arena in London 2012 had exterior dimensions of 115m x 100m x 35 and a full sized football field is 105m x 65m there would appear to be enough space for a Temporary Arena of 12,000 seats Birkebeineren, Lygardsbakkene, and the Olympic Bobsleigh Track are still in place. And if people can commute from Oslo to events, then maybe the opposite could have been reversed
  10. I think there is a difference of using a technical facility 30km away from the bidding city saving a city from building a white elephant whilst in terms of the Krakow bid there is an realistic option within borders just down the road at Zakopane offering 930m of vertical whilst Korbielow-Pilsko offers 792m
  11. I would suggest the opposite. There will be no split in those voting for Scandinavia contenders. And those in Oslo will now believe that Oslo offers the safest option compared to any other bidders with a vast number of existing proven facilities including those in Lillehammer. Lviv will suffer from proximity to Sochi Almaty and Beijing from the 2018 games Krakow because of the unheralded 2 countries bid Oslo just got a boost. And don't forget the Norwegian economy is underpinned by its oil economy and a huge social fund which could justify bidding through the development of extra sporting facilities and housing created by the building on an Olympic village. Plus the Norwegian population just love their winter sports and arguably more so than the Swedish population
  12. It may well be that the NFF will brush off plans for a new National Stadium what either Helsinki joining Stockholm and Copenhagen having new or updated digs
  13. But Whistler to Vancouver was only a 90mins drive
  14. Munich to Kiel = The Summer Games Atlanta to Miami = The Summer Games Beijing to Hong Kong = the Summer Games Los Angeles to Boston = the Summer Games Exactly when has there been a distance like this in the Winter Games???? .... and we are talking about the minor sports, not a major event like the Men's Downhill Would you expect them to host the 100m final, hundreds of Kms from the rest of the games???
  15. The Swedish government have already said they will not provide financial support and will not provide any financial guarantees Except he has also said it for other bids, for example when Harbin failed to be a contender for the WYOG in 2012
  16. " IOC President Jacques Rogge later stated that with the distance of 240 kilometers (150 mi) between Oslo and the Alpine venues would make it impossible to be selected." If 240km is too far, 600km most certainly is as it cannot be resolved by high speed rail ..... only aircraft and lets not forget, planes to fly to Are, they fly to Ostersund and then there is additional road travel
  17. No government financial support No hope of success Especially when considering the utterly ridiculous distances between Stockholm and Are After all, Oslo can always be persuaded to use Norefjell which is 130km from the city. Even still Oslo-Kvitfjell is 228km, Stockholm-Are is 634km, Beijing-Zhangjiakou 194km, Lviv-Volovets 185km, Krakow-Jasna 181km .... Stockholm's distances make their bid an utter nonsense.
  18. Without government support it has zero chance
  19. More information about their bid http://ol22.no/en/ http://www.oslo2022.oslo.kommune.no/getfile.php/Oslo2022/Internett%28O22%29/Dokumenter/Oslo2022%20information.pdf I still think an Oslo bid would be improved if they moved the Alpine events from Kvitfjell to Norefjell which with 1010m drop certainly has sufficient vertical. The 1952 bobsleigh run was dismantled but the course is still there to use as a basis for a temporary run
  20. Glasgow. Multiple indoor arenas and stadia which could be used. Glencoe Ski Area. The oldest resort in Scotland was a 803 metre vertical drop. 80miles (130kms) from downtown Glasgow.
  21. The awarding of the 2020 games makes it much more likely Paris will be involved. Will South Africa even bid? If Chicago or NYC aren't bidding can any other US city match Paris?
  22. Actually individual players cannot make that decision as they are individually contracted to clubs and can only play international football on an 'agreed' number of release dates. December is an interesting point - the Bundesliga winter break starts around 20th December, Ligue1 starts around 22nd December It CANNOT start earlier as it is an even split in the middle of the season. We are talking about the 5 wealthiest sports leagues in the world changing their dates to simply help out the Winter Olympic games? And lets not forget - 99% of the world's leading players from outside Europe actually play for leagues under the UEFA mandate. It would be like having the SuperBowl contested by two NCAA Division III teams if Europe did not agree to the release of their players.
  23. I think you will find that the Scandinavians and Dutch are massively football fans, and whilst both participate in winter sports, if given the chance the vast majority will follow football. As for when teams can attend, if held in Winter, then players will be coming directly out of season so will not need the 3-4 weeks of preparation. Indeed it may not be possible to accommodate this in Qatar and teams will prepare outside of the middle east. As a number of European leagues have, have had or propose to have a winter break anyway, the task of FIFA might be far easier than you think
  24. Interestingly the year of the UK General Election and the vote for the 2012 Olympic Games was 2005 ... and it wasn't bad timing for the incumbent politician with the opposition also supporting the bid so not to appear killjoys
  25. Fox Sports will have zero influence over FIFA and the World Cup. Remember football is a minor sport in the USA and no-one is interested in the NFL. FoxSports v UEFA and the main sponsors of the World Cup and the European Leagues is a non-contest
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