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Posts posted by runningrings

  1. I see this race much like the 2008 race. You have a heavy favorite in Paris (like Beijing in 2008) and a strong contender to finish second (Los Angeles. I know Paris was 3rd behind Toronto). Los Angeles sets up very nicely for 2028 much like Paris did for 2012, though the latter couldn't quite close the deal. Geopolitics favor a North American bid for 2028. It's hard to see Paris being denied again. In fact, I'll go on to say Paris wins the 2024 race in a landslide by the second round of voting just like Beijing did.

    I'll agree that the comparison between Paris 2024 and Beijing 2008 does have merit - but I think Los Angeles will perform better than Toronto did for 2008.

  2. The USOC would be so stupid not to bid again for 2028 when the timing couldn't be more ripe for a North American Games all things considered. But then again, they haven't been too smart TBW these last couple of years. And if they were to foolishly refrain, I'm quite sure the Canadians would seize the opportunity, & the IOC I'm sure knows this.

    Too true. Still surprised by the USOC overlooking 2020. Even before the candidates started to drop out, they would have stood a significant chance. Most US cities - perhaps even the second tier ones like Dallas or Philadelphia - would have stood a very good chance of landing 2020 over Tokyo and Istanbul,.

  3. I really dislike the "We're so ready we could host tomorrow" card that is trumped out by cities. Its brazen, shows arrogance, and underestimates the complexity of organising an Olympic-magnitude event in the 21st century. It even irritates me when its wheeled out every few years by politicians in Melbourne. Rome, like Melbourne (and Los Angeles) would need years just like any other city to appropriately prepare.

    Rome should also be careful of using this card with respect to fellow competitors in its cohort like Paris and especially Los Angeles that are both logistically better placed to stage the Games than decrepit Rome.

  4. Love the logo, best for 2024 so far.

    Looking forward to seeing LA's bid evolve. As I've mentioned before, I'm rooting for a Paris triumph in 2024, but would be happy to see LA come through also. I hope the USOC sticks with LA if it loses 2024. Might do them good to stick with the one city instead of going elsewhere like they always do. Although if Chicago changed its tune, it could be a steal for 2028.

  5. I know I've said it before - but those wide open paved spaces desperately need some green. I understand that a lot of the site will change as it moves into legacy mode, but it can't be too much to bring in some trees (or even canopies) to provide shade.

    It almost reminds me of Sydney Olympic Park in its early days - quite open (although 16 years later its maturing quite well).

  6. There must be a full mediterranean arrogance in highsight. Athens 1996 was full of that and a sense of entitlement of "We must have the Centenary Games", then Rome 2004 and somehow Madrid 2016 and 2020...

    Interesting observation - and perhaps reflective of a cultural difference within Europe. The IOC is very much anchored within Anglo/Franco/Northern European values which tend to expect zero self inflation with these things- but we have seen numerous Med bid cities flounder in the face of brash hot headedness- the Madrid bids, Rome 2004 (& 2020?), Athens 96,

  7. Any references to Paris perceived security (thiny veiled or explicit) in the wake of the attacks is a very slippery sloap for the Italians for a number of reasons :

    - all Olympic hosts are potential targets by virtue of being Olympic hosts.

    - Paris could gain some degree of sentimental support (I know Madrid and NYC didn't, but they weren't front runners)

    - Rome is continually referenced by ISIS as the pinnacle enemy .

    So they should just keep quiet and respectful.

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  8. I still stand by my original statement. I mean, gee, who following the Olympics, wouldn't know that 2020 is being hosted in Tokyo, Japan? I mean do you have to be reminded by the Red Sun everytime? If I were on the IOC, I wouldn't approve it unless they added the 4 other colors in those cookie shapes. So make the "TOKYO" lettering RED, FGS!!

    Also, the colors for the LA-1984 Star in Motion could stand for France, Russia, the Netherlands...and and a few other nations -- NOT just the USA.

    While I agree with your assessment of this logo, I do think some countries that have a very strong brand go to these brands out of safety - Japan, Canada and the US have all done this with their logos, drawing on national symbols, even Sydney 2000 drew heavily on these symbols (albeit less obviously than say Calgary or Montreal). While I didn't really love its logo, I at least appreciated London for straying away from this and going with something completely wild and offbeat - which I think startled many peoples impressions of 'Britishness'. I have a feeling we may see a similar type of eccentric boldness in 2024 with either LA or Paris. I hope LA draws on distinctly Californian themes over American, and Paris tries to stay away from tricolour and the tower.

    Also Vancouver was a great example of presenting a new icon - something LA or Paris should attempt to do.

  9. I don't like the one on the left. What is that red blob? Glob? Blood? Unrestrained menstruation?

    What's with the Tokyo 2200? Don't these people proofread their work??

    The one on the right w/ the cookie patterns, looks good. But it should use blue, green, yellow and black cookies too. The red is just too jingoistic.


    All i see is some mutated Mickey Mouse silhouette. I don't like it, and I don't think the IOC will like their butchered logo either. These designs are boring and lame. Feel very sad about the plagiarism that confronted the last logo - because it was perfect.

  10. Does anybody know where a copy of the Atlanta 1996 bid book could be obtained from?

    I'm also intrigued to know if anyone has ever come across plans for Minneapolis' proposed 1996 bid? Venues, etc.

    Given that Athens was clearly a no-go, its safe to assume Minneapolis may have also got across the line so its a very real 1996 alternative as much as Melbourne and Toronto.

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