Blacksheep

Not until there is complete gender equality ... this rules out most of the Persian Gulf and Arabian peninsula and leaves us with Turkey and North Africa ... turning it into an Islamic games rather than a Middle East games.

I do think that the organisers and the city of Toronto missed a trick here. Having moved away from the Hamilton location, what I would have done would have been to build a single tier 25,000 seat stadium in the Portlands, future proofed for expansion. Once 2015 had finished, the Argonauts could have moved in. If Toronto won the right to host the Olympics, two extra modular decks could have been added producing a 75,000 - 80,000 seat Olympic stadium. Post games and depending on future needs, you either remove both decks or just the top one, leaving a 50,000 seat venue for either the Argonauts, major Toronto FC games, the Grey Cup etc. There might even be space for a new ballpark and all of the infrastructure would be in place.

and Los Angeles is 4,800km to Boston In 2016, Chicago proposed LA 3,300km away

In 1984, LA used stadiums in Boston and Maryland and for the football In 1996, Atlanta used stadiums in Miami and Washington In 2000, Sydney used stadiums Brisbane, Adelaide and Melbourne In 2008, Beijing used stadiums in Shanghai and if you look at the LA, NY and Chicago bids for 2012 and 2016, the football was spread around There is no reason not to use stadiums in Vancouver, Edmonton, Winnipeg and Montreal to host the football group games before moving the semi finals and finals close to Toronto.

Maybe so but the reason why football at every games is widely spread is so that the games had reach people who can't make it too other events. I don't think concentrating the football would enhance the bid, and could in fact detract from it.

You need about 5 football venues most of which are 30,000 seats+ .... I don't know if Toronto has this capacity?

I'd doubt they'd drop the Frank Clair. Interestingly the football is the one event that is spread around a country so using BC Place, Commonwealth Stadium, Canads Inn (or whatever the new is called) the Frank Clair and Montreal's Olympic stadium makes sense. What the Rogers offers with its roof closed seems too valuable to me.

When they say covered do they mean as in 'Dunedin' or a sliding roof facility, or just a regular stadium with a roof over each stand only?

It won't happen like this as it would turn the Euro's into a joke. How about London 2020 though .... there is enough stadia Wembley 90,000 seats Twickenham 80,000 seats (if approval can be given by the local council) Olympic Stadium 60-80,000 seats (depending on how much alteration has been agreed to) Emirates 60,234 seats New White Hart Lane 56-60,000 seats Stamford Bridge 41,837 seats and 4 teams who could expand their stadia The Valley (Charlton) 27,111 seats Selhurst Park (Crystal Palace) 26,309 seats Craven Cottage (Fulham) being increased to 30,000 seats new QPR stadium - 30,000 seats + and just outside of London is the Madjeski (Reading) which may be expanded to 36,900 seats.

yes but also Rio and maybe Istanbul offer a true uniqueness in their bids - first games in South America, first Muslim games etc - whilst a city which has already held the games twice won't have that PLUS to outweigh the MINUS of a spread out bid.

Looking at a Toronto bid - and I still think 2028 might be a better option than 2024, I think it will pose a massive challenge to any US nominee. You are talking a North American bid, so the US networks won't be totally upset. There will be government funding unlike the US and this is something that the IOC will like. Outside of the Big 3 (LA, NY, Chicago), no US city exceeds Toronto in terms of infrastructure, transport, sporting facilities suitable for the Olympics which are already in place. Whilst New York and Chicago might offer a vow factor, Los Angeles may need to work hard to come up with an imaginative new twist ..... unlike London whose 1948 austerity games bailed out the IOC, a 3rd games in LA would be a genuine 3rd selection. San Francisco could be interesting but if they can't even get a 49ers stadium built within the city limits, what hope is there for the facilities needed for an Olympics? Philadelphia and Dallas have made noises but can they genuinely put together as compact a bid as Toronto?

I never brought up Syria, but hey, don't let the truth stand in the way of a good lie

How convenient you forgot my mentioning that if that were to occur the Chinese might be drawn in as they were in the Korean War, and for all the typical American sable rattling would they really want that for a localised incident. I have not said they don't pose a threat. They've a proven record of actions against Japan including the kidnapping of their citizens, but think it is no more likely than some how thinking that Syria might bizarrely impact on Istanbul because they are in the same geographical region.

I argued it was technically closer (800km to 1,000km) merely to illustrate how stupid the suggestion about Syria was I take it you didn't read the quote you are referring to because no where did I say bigger or larger at all, I merely said that if that was to be considered then Tokyo had similar questions to answer

Oh didums - have I upset you? You don't seem to understand so I shall try to avoid big words - I said Tokyo/North Korea when you said Istanbul/Syria because they are both equally to have same impact i.e. zero. It was your drivel which started it but because you can't take the heat you choose to leave the kitchen. Your choice And I least I use proper English rather than degrade this board with your txt abbreviations