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Shrek201

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  1. People learn and behave. The UK had theroughest, most ill-mannered football fans in the world in the 80s and 90s, always wreaking havoc wherever they visited. Yet, who hosted 2012??
  2. Probably was a joke. I mean slopes in neighboring Finland would NOT have fulfilled the demands.
  3. Hey Thrillos, good to see u back. Wonder what happened 2 u. Altho, of course, u do realize that the vastly reduced commission structure for the USOC would go into effect at that time; so any big revenues from the US TV contract would not be as large as it would've been pre-May 2012 agmt w/ the IOC.
  4. I had an idea like that many, many years ago when I was promoting something called "The World Games" (even before I knew that that existed). And indeed I had one plan to have all the aquatic sports based permanently in Disney World. And that was something not under the IOC aegis. Again, like many of the 'weird trial balloons" being hoisted here, it may look nice & good in b&w print, but in reality is unfeasible. The problem with keeping an Olympics or anything like that in a Disney Park is anything like that would have to be called Disney something or another. And no way is that going to happen with an Olympic Games. Plus, since Disney owns ABC; and of course, ABC would be the only US network to carry the Games. That was one of the reasons the Goodwill Games folded because it was a Turner-CNN property, it could NOT bid itself out to the major networks and have the mucho $$$ which keep the Olympics alive; thus, it died a natural death. Putting anything like that in a "Disney" property would also probably spell its early demise. Next sensible idea, please.
  5. Of course, it's on a wait-and-see. #1 - R there any cities suitable and hot enuf under the collar to finance and spend a $75 million campaign for 2024 w/o any assurance of winning? #2 - Who will the other 2024 cities be? #3 - What will the geopolitical landscape for 2017 be?
  6. OK, just read up a little on Missoula. Some thoughts: 1. It has promise but it must grow to at least 200,000 in the coming years. 2. It must develop a skiing industry and maybe get the cache of a Jackson Hole or Gstaad. People like to think of skiing as a "glamorous sport." And perhaps, if this sport were developed on the Missoula slopes, it might provide the catalyst for a future bid. 3. If anybody in Missoula is serious about becoming a future Olympic city, it must get on the circuit of the international winter sports...so that it gets the right notice from these circles that will eventually decide where an Olympics lands or not. 4. Hopefully, the University of Montana/Missoula campus, can become big and important enough to provide the dorms for the Olympic Village and so that the campus can become the beneficiary of a major speed-skating rink. 5. It should have an airport capable of handling medium-sized passenger jets and at least a world-class medical facility or two. 6. How does its legacy fit into the USOC's master plan of where to put a USOC-sponsored Olympic training site in place? An abundance of hotel rooms (I think the IOC requires 25,000 for a WOGs in the 30-mile radius of the anchor town) is NOT enough to just launch an Olympic bid. All of the above AND much more need to line up in order to even come up to the standards of a Denver, Salt Lake or Reno.
  7. Missoula vs. a Gstaad or vs. an Annecy? I mean does Missoula even have a semi-developed 800-m drop? Does it even have a 250,000-base-population for its metro area to be the anchor of the whole bid? It's NOT just a matter of plopping a new name -- oh, these guys here on GB didn't think of this one before -- and dropping it into the mix. There's a reason all these new entries are being disregarded. It's because they just DON'T pass muster.
  8. Let's see...what far-out name can I throw in here...not already suggested by Pyro that's both laughable and credible?? Bakersfield, CA? Paducah, Tennessee? Des Moines, Iowa? I know the river in Des Moines rises when it rains, so that'll take care of a rowing course and maybe all the aqua needs of a Des Moines Games. Let's see...what else...
  9. well, y didn't ya clarify it then?
  10. I don't think it even went into the detailed renderings phase. At that time, it was just listing existing facilities and maybe a rough b&w rendering or two. As I said, it didn't go anywhere as near as the final stages of the 2005 bid did. I have some clippings of the 1977 NYT reports but I;m too lazy to dig them up right now.
  11. No. In the domestic race, NYC tried to be the 1984 US nominee vs. LA. A committee was commissioned by then Mayor Abe Beame; and it was headed by then (I think William) Bennett (the one who went on to become a future Secretary of Education). They had drawn up initial plans (like having the Nations parade down Broadway and accorded the then-famous Wall Street ticker tape parade receptions) but it didn't get very far because (1) LA already had the USOC's eye (even though the USOC was located on Madison Avenue then), having already been the USOC candidate for the 1976 and 1980 competitions; and (2) the New York Legislature (composed of a lot of upstate politicians) were already locked in to backing the awarded Lake Placid 1980 Winter Games. Those 1977 NYC plans didn't go as far as the 2005 bid, but it did draw a couple of front-page stories in The New York Times.
  12. I mean...Vegas hasn't even hosted a national political convention and people here are even considering it for the Olympics?? Of the large convention cities of the US, even Orlando is non-Olympic material. Apart from the rogue episode...which I don't think reflected on the USOC since the guy acted NOT knowing how it's done...and the IOC had the courtesy to reply to him politely, don't you Vegas-boosters think that if the city were even remotely Olympic material, the USOC would've already made them a finalist even in the last two rounds?? Please get real people.
  13. Well, that's where the major population centers and sporting powers are. How come the Olympics return to Europe regularly?
  14. Toronto has a very nice skyline but the Olympic Games aren't won on pretty skylines.
  15. Don't you think U know that. But if they are all going to deliver the Games' end right, therefore, really, the only difference is who can present the BEST ceremonies...and Japan, because of their more Asian culture, will of course, present the more boring shows. It's what separates the chaff from the grain---that's all I'm saying.
  16. /\/\ God, it's worse than I remember it. 2020 CANNOT go to Tokyo again. Those will be the most boring ceremonies in ages.
  17. Hamburg waterfront plan = Toronto waterfront plan = cancel each other out.
  18. Aug 2006 - start of the homestretch for the 3 finalists: LA, CHicago and SF Nov 2006 - SF had to drop out because the 49er stadium deal imploded April 2007 - Chicago picked over LA & officially entered into the 2016 race; start of 2+ year int'l campaign October 2009 - selection by IOC of Rio in Copenhagen, Denmark
  19. Where have you been? After 184 pages, you haven't yet figured out that THE ONLY US cities competitive and capable enough to mount, big, stage AND compete for a Summer Olympics are those with the size, clout, cache of LA, NYC, Chicago, San Francisco (and possibly Philadelphia), and you throw in middling mid-Western cities like the 3 Ohio "C"s with a straight face?? Even Indianapolis might have a better chance than any of the 3 "C"s. At least they've hosted a PanAm Games, a SuperBowl and and US Swim trials. Why do u think any Tulsa talk is the laughing stock of these boards??
  20. Looking at what's there, it's really a Degreening of the Londno area." The show will open with that pastoral scene; and then after hours gamboling and maypole dancing and f*cking the cows, many grass swards will come out and then a frenetic, kinetic London will open up. Uhmmm. Am not liking the idea. A little too cliche. But will fairies come down from the Glastonbury Tor to spread their pixie dust to bring in to uncover another layer of the story???
  21. This whole discussion gets exponenetially more psychotic each year. And we thought Taichi and his wait for the digital countdown clocks was truly bonkers. Wait till discussion gets to Sochi and if we get a few Russians in here; it will be complete bedlam!
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