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Proposition Joe

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  1. Israel is one of the worst human rights abusers in the world, what else is there to elaborate on? The sporting ban on South Africa played a large part in placing international pressure on South Africa to end their apartheid and I think that if global sport has the ability to influence the world in a similar matter today or tomorrow then they should place similar bans on countries that are guilty of such crimes. I mean, it's not really an outrageous proposition if people are willing to ban Iran who, while they are guilty of pretty serious human rights issues, don't commit the war crimes that Israel commits on a regular basis.
  2. While some states may have serious issues with human rights abuses, I think that it is important not to demonize entire ethnic groups or religions. Israel deserves to be banned from any sports federation it may be apart of in the same way South Africa was boycotted.
  3. Boston is not going to build a second Boston Garden sized arena. There is no use for another arena of that size and moving the Celtics or Bruins out of that area to utilize a new arena would be incredibly unpopular. I also don't see why they would need a venue of that size if the sport we're trying to accommodate is indoor volleyball which does not require capacities that large. If we're building a new Garden for the sake of building a new venue then that seems to run contrary to the cheap games idea. The question of renovating the arena or building a new Garden is really up to the Boston Bruins ownership anyways and isn't a necessary cost in the first place. There are a bunch of pockets of land for things to go in Boston, particularly if you are talking about a temporary venue.
  4. Ok so going back to those prospective venue plans, I made this map which plots out the venues name dropped so far (along with other major venues in the city and infrastructure upgrades mentioned as well). As far as I know, the only special venues that would need to be constructed at this point would be a velodrome and the aquatics center. If some people who have more knowledge about venue plans and Olympic scheduling could clarify how much venue space would be required for the remaining events, or point me in the direction of a good resource to find the information myself, that would be helpful.* The events of interest would be: Basketball, indoor volleyball, wrestling, badminton, boxing, rugby, shooting, tennis, and weightlifting. I am also unclear on the language used to describe the venue plan in Franklin Park in regards to the modern pentathlon and equestrian, because they describe renovating White Stadium and that damage may occur to the public golf course nearby. Some clarification on how equestrian and pentathlon venues are typically arranged could be helpful to find out what they may be thinking about or planning there. * I also think that it would be useful for this sort of information to be collected and placed in a sticky somewhere in this forum, as I feel that would help with discussions on this particular sub-forum.
  5. There are currently no plans to do either of the things that I mentioned. The state transportation plan that you linked was never fully funded and is out of date. The Red-Blue Connecter in particular was also never mentioned in that proposal. The problem here is that the people trying to organize the Olympics in Boston are saying that current transportation plans are enough to handle the influx from the Olympics when that isn't true and misses the point of hosting the Olympics. The only legitimate argument for going through the process of hosting the games is so that the city can receive some infrastructure upgrades that it wouldn't normally get. If the transportation plan for the games is the same as the transportation plan without the games then why are we doing this at all??? Also the current plans for transportation improvements are already severely lacking when accounting for current demographic shifts and expected increases in ridership and population. If you try to host an Olympics in Boston while only investing in some DMU vehicles then the rapid transit system, especially the Green Line spurs and the downtown core stations, will have major congestion issues.
  6. Projects and spending from the State Transportation Bill have nothing to do with the Olympics. Some projects there might help somewhat with transportation in the region, but there will be other necessary projects to improve transit to handle capacity issues that the system would face in the future with or without an Olympics. If the MBTA doesn't get things like improved signal systems or the Red-Blue Connector then there is literally no reason to support the Olympics.
  7. I have seen nothing anywhere about Mitt Romney actually working with the Boston bid or running for any political office.
  8. Choosing Dubai would be a mistake because it would have the same problems as Doha in regards to labor, lack of legacy, and corruption
  9. I figure that Baku would try to style themselves as both European and Middle Eastern in the same way that Turkey might. There is a benefit in styling a bid as being part of a new frontier. Also the chances of any of the Arab Gulf states hosting the Olympics is pretty much 0% at this point thanks to the World Cup debacle in Qatar.
  10. Putting an Olympic Stadium near Castle Island is obviously a joke, thats like putting a stadium on Liberty Island. Again, Beacon Park and Newmarket would be the two locations where an Olympic Stadium and larger Olympic Park would be viable.
  11. If the US bid with Atlanta again they would be kicked out of the Olympics.
  12. DC United is actually still in a long and notable search for a stadium; even though they might have a chance to finally get one soon, that can also go sideways for them like deals in the past have as well.
  13. Madrid is in the West? Do you mean return to the Americas?
  14. I would be skeptical of trying to build anything or increase development in Franklin Park. Olmstead's necklace has already been scared by quite a few terrible developments that I wouldn't welcome another potential disaster. IMO the key areas to look at for a Bostonian stadium are the now vacated CSX rail yards in Allston, Newmarket for some sort of redevelopment plan, and the Bayside Expo Center. I suppose Boston could also bend the rules a bit and stick the stadium in the Lower Broadway section of Everett (using the same land that is causing that fuss about the Wynn Casino). As for archery in Fenway Park, I don't think thats a total mismatch because I've seen proposals from different corners of the internet include archery at Fenway so there is something that is making people try to connect the two. (Also handball at Matthews Arena seems to be a popular match as well for some reason.) Maybe people want to see arrows shot at targets in front of the Green Monster?
  15. San Diego is also you know, not comparable to Barcelona in the first place. Tulsa is the Chongqing of America.
  16. San Diego Padres Attendance: 2013 - 21 out of 30 2012 - 21 out of 30 2011 - 17 out of 30 2010 - 18 out of 30 2009 - 20 out of 30 2008 - 17 out of 30 San Diego Chargers Attendance: 2012 - 28 out of 32 2011 - 19 out of 32 2010 - 21 out of 32 2009 - 18 out of 32 2008 - 16 out of 32 San Diego definitely does not have a reputation for being a sports city or having die hard fans. Their reputation is the exact opposite. Frankly, most of those attendance numbers probably come from other fanbases in California coming down to San Diego. (And if LA had a football team then lol at the Charger's potential attendance numbers.) Comparing San Diego to Barcelona is also incredible suspect. Barcelona is a global city, a centre of culture, and a national capital for the Catalonian people (They also have a sports team that they support). San Diego has nothing to differentiate itself from any other sprawling cultural wasteland in the American west. America's actual Barcelona might be Los Angeles, which brings up another question for San Diego. If Los Angeles is right there what reason is there to bother with San Diego? Cities like Boston and Philadelphia can differentiate themselves from and stand on their own in comparison to New York, so this isn't really an unfair point to bring up. Also airport.
  17. It's on the wrong side of the continent unfortunately; there aren't any other major or notable population centres nearby.
  18. I would hardly call Dallas and Houston historical cities, at least in the way a city like Boston is historic. Dallas and Houston are the standard Western American style of cities that began their rapid growth after WWII, which means that they are sprawling and car dependent so their design is lousy and unfriendly. This is changing and as the cities continue to grow in the upcoming century they will become more dense, more sustainable, and more walkable for example; however, all of these qualities already exist in a city like Boston right now. Although pairing Dallas up with the abomination that is Houston is a bit unfair as Dallas is much bit better than Houston, Dallas still can't compare to any East Coast city (or San Francisco or future LA).
  19. Actually as a Boston resident let me tell you about this 'locking down the entire city' thing.
  20. They could add baseball and cricket at the same time because they could share venues. I don't see whats wrong with adding what is perceived as a regional sport to the Olympics because: 1.) Being in the Olympics can help spread that sport's reach and 2.) If the region that the sport is popular in has countries that aren't well represented in the Olympics then adding it to the Olympics makes the Olympics more inclusive and complete.
  21. Something that I think should be considered for American bids is the differences between our regions and how that would effect the feel of an Olympics held in different areas. For example, the Atlanta Olympics was very much a Southern Olympics. Therefore I do not see why our next Olympics would take place in a similar region. A Dallas Olympics would probably have a Texan atmosphere to it but I don't think it would be substantially different from a Southern Olympics or representative of the United States as a whole to have two back to back Olympics from the South, especially when we have never had a Northern city host the Olympics. Dallas would be Atlanta 2.0 is what I'm saying. Atlanta 2.0 in a bad way.
  22. West Village H? I live there right now. Although I don't think there needs to be more dorms for universities. They are more than capable fo building them on their own and many students will wish to live off campus anyways. As long as students want to live off campus there will be issues with gentrification and in order to address that you need to build up the supply of housing.
  23. And its not like Boston is a super-dense Singapore and can't deal with extra population. Boston lost a lot of housing in the West End, Jamaica Plain, and Roxbury during the Urban Renewal Period and has been slowly trying to fix all the urban planning mistakes made during that period. Boston is more than capable of handling it and needs it.
  24. Boston has a housing crisis due to a lack of housing and many neighborhoods are facing issues with gentrification. I see the influx of housing as another potential legacy for the games like upgrades to our transportation network. Boston dorms also don't really need upgrading. Many universities are building or planning new dorm projects right now so they don't really need the incentive or impetus to upgrade their on-campus housing. I suppose using campus housing would be a good back up in case a full village couldn't be constructed though.
  25. Top Ten Countries in the IBAF Men's Rankings: 1. Cuba 2. USA 3. Japan 4. South Korea 5. Taiwan 6. Canada 7. Netherlands 8. Venezuela 9. Italy 10. Australia That doesn't look very North American centric to me. Baseball is predominantly played in the Americas and in East Asia yes, but it is played elsewhere and significant efforts have been made to increase the global reach of baseball. Case in point, the most recent and last champions of the Baseball World Cup is the Netherlands and the World Baseball Classic Qualifiers involved a number of European nations participating. Frankly I think Baseball merits inclusion. If you are going to have sports like Table Tennis or Synchronized Swimming that are dominated year in year out by the same country or sports that require highly specialized venues like Track Cycling or sports that are safely in the games that are regional in practice like Badminton then Baseball and Softball don't have any compelling reason for exclusion. The venues would be well used by the Baseball and Softball tournaments, can be used in conjunction with Cricket if it where included, and can be easily used after the games for either baseball or it could be converted to a football stadium like Portland did with their minor league stadium. I also don't get supporting the exclusion of Baseball because of a perceived North American centricity while supporting the inclusion of Modern Pentathlon for vague historical reasons considering that the sport is unpopular, played by privileged elites, and European centric? What the Olympics should primarily be considering when including sports is whether or not the sports broaden the reach of the Olympic movement and whether or not the sports are popular and played by people. Baseball is clearly popular and its professional leagues are well attended and making huge profits.
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