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  1. The behaviour of the Spanish on these forums, has really turned me off the Spanish bid. I really hope this race comes down to Istanbul vs Tokyo.
  2. It seems like the Japan forums have been infested with "trolls" posting everything negative about Tokyo, trying to tarnish the bid.
  3. I think this race is still neck and neck. If there wasn't any social unrest in Turkey, I think Istanbul would have been favourite now, however I think now its anyone's games. Its probably going to come down to that final presentation. its going to be pretty predictable what Tokyo are going to spill the "secure games" blah blah...But will the emotional pull from Istanbul's presentation...a first Muslim majority nation to host, etc...Will the emotional pull be powerful enough..time will tell. I think Istanbul bid team should really drum home the fact that the region with all its problems, needs something like the games to bridge it together...As much as I think that is rubbish and that neighbouring nations see Turkey as a foe, and any games wouldn't change that. The message should be along those lines to get that emotional vote.
  4. Both Istanbul and Tokyo have received a lot of criticism on these forums, from Tokyo being "boring" to Istanbul's protests and organisation. Which is fine this is what these forums about. But it seems the pro-Madrid members of these forums, feel as though they are being victimised and are the only ones to receive criticism...As though there is a "witch hunt" or a conspiracy against Madrid. Which is so far from the truth. You guys need to chill and stop being so defensive, because you are only displaying insecurities about your bid...which is a sign of "weakness" in my opinion. If the city cant handle criticism, then it shouldn't be bidding
  5. One supporter of Istanbul 2020 may be UEFA....I can just see in 2024...when UEFA go back to the normal format of one hosting nation. They would be probably be keen to have Turkey freed up for a Euro 2024...otherwise I can just see the same thing happening again, where Turkey will have to step back for another Olympic bid...only of course if Istanbul doesn't finally give up its Olympic dream after 2020..and other big nations like Germany, France, England..dont step up to host another Euro event.
  6. There are currently riots in Brazil that are at a similar scale to Turkey..The motivation behind the riots aren't too distant from some of the reasons behind the Turkish protests...so if people think that Istanbul would not be prepared as a result 7 years from now...what does that say about Brazil who have the WC next year and the OG in 3 years
  7. The AKP needs to be monitored closely in relation to these events...If they continue with police brutality then Istanbul should not given the games..Erdogan is an arrogant leader, who thinks he can do what he wants when he wants...The spotlight is on Turkey now...
  8. How ironic..here on the forums Turkey is being blasted for curbing freedom of speech. On these very forums after my last comment a certain premium member blocked me from making any further comments on this topic. My crime was to only defend Muslims against "hate"..you don't believe in freedom of speech Mr hypocrite..and i was unblocked because he probably realised what he was doing..so will you block me again I wonder? How ironic..here on the forums Turkey is being blasted for curbing freedom of speech. On these very forums after my last comment a certain premium member blocked me from making any further comments on this topic. My crime was to only defend Muslims against "hate"..you don't believe in freedom of speech Mr hypocrite..and i was unblocked because he probably realised what he was doing..so will you block me again I wonder?
  9. Definitely one of the most racist comments I've read on these forums....How can you label 1 billion people as terrorists?...."Y r u so defensive about those muslims"....What are Muslims?... monsters?...you hate an entire religion..because of a minority for not being tolerant, for abusing human rights..for preventing freedom of speech.....However that comment of yours has "hate" written all over it...and Im sure youd fit right in...with all the far-right extremist parties of Europe...you are no different from those "terrorists" who blame the entire West for their problems...
  10. No doubt logistics wil provide some challenges...But i tell you what, if they manage to sort out the cities traffic problems and have it run smoothly in the next 5 years as they are promising..Then Im sure sorting out the traffic around the stadium will be a breeze...
  11. Yes the Istanbulspor team is backed by the council...it is too big for the team..and is empty most occassions...However it was necessary....Exactly..it is all driven by the wow factor...which I think works...I can just imagine IOC members standing at that exact location and imagining what an opening ceremony would be like...the ceremony itself im sure would have a large part of it based on the cities Byzantine/Ottoman..history..to have those buildings as the back drop..would simply be amazing...Ataturk on the otherhand is at some distance...i still think after the games..the stadium as an entertainment venue..rather then a sporting stadium...can be part of a legacy
  12. IStanbul is a 24 hour city..and Turks love outdoor entertainment....there are many outdoor festivals and every big name US music star on a tour of Europe will stop-over in Istanbul....besides the local stars and the smaller internationals...The big football stadiums are used at least 3-4 times a year for a major international star like...U2, Madonna, Rihanna, etc.....just this year..Rihanna, Beiber, Tiesto will be doing concerts in one of the big stadiums...so im not sure on how an entertainment venue would be a waste...with the Ataturk Olympic stadium...well thats the home ground of the Istanbul football team "Istanbulspor"...now you might say why does Istanbulspor need a football stadium when there are so many...well in a city like Istanbul...with mad football fans..Galatasaray stadium is exclusive to galatasaray...Besiktas stadium is exclusive to besiktas and sukru saracoglu..fenerbahce..and those stadiums are football only...box shape...they do not share with other teams...the rivalry is fierce...so therefore im not sure about the stadiums being "unused"
  13. So we'll have to wait for the actual evaluation reports, to get a more clear understanding of what the IOC felt about the visits...I guess it makes sense that they would be more diplomatic post visit...then in the report, they will get more technical and pick at each and every part of the visit.
  14. The purpose of the stadium is to provide a fantatic backdrop for the ceremonies....its the bids "wow" factor...and it wont be a "white elephant" because after the games it will be dissembled and be a small to medium sized entertainment venue...
  15. For the games the stadium will have a capacity of 70,000...after the games it will be dissembled and will be reduced to a capacity of 30,000 and used as an entertainment venue The bid commitee has made it clear that special incentives will be offered to ticket holders who travel on public transport during the games...such as free travel. So as long as public transport is sufficient, no one will be driving there...
  16. I do think they can use that venue afterwards...Istanbul like most major international cities does get regular visits from international stars...there are also many outdoor events...During the summer months i think the venue would be used quite regularly...instead of transferring a football stadium for a Madonna concert and destroy the turf (as was done on her last visit) why not use a purposely built entertainment venue.
  17. Does anyone remember when the head of the IOC critisized or made negative comments about a city after an evaluation visit...I want to know if he is being diplomatic with his comments about each city...or if he actually means it.
  18. That may be true. However keep in mind security was always going to be an issue with a Turkish bid. With this annoucement it basically lifts one of the major hurdles...aside from the bids basic technical requirements.
  19. The ceasefire would be a HUGE boost for the bid. In the past the PKK has hit soft targets in Turkey..however recently they've focused more on fighting against government forces...with stability and peace in the south eastern corner of the country..will come a much less threat and also you may find people that originally migrated from eastern Turkey to the western cities may just migrate back...as peace will no doubt bring prosperity and development to the country's eastern provinces.
  20. Teams from these countries Turkey Cyprus Armenia...have all played professional football and basketball matches against each other...Even with hooligans on both sides..the matches have gone ahead..with some crowd trouble of course...At the Olympics, where hooligan spectators arent common..I dont see an issue.
  21. Although its good news..but seriously i think it should be expected. These companies are the ones who will profit most with exposure during the games...not only that im sure a lot of the visitors will be using Turkish Airlines to get to Istanbul, will be eating Ulker foods, etc...they will make gain much much more back if the games is are awarded to the city..
  22. You would think the Istanbul bid team would have to be very silly, if not stupid to take anything for granted in this race. This is the biggest event in the world and the city has failed on 4 consecutive bids. I really hope the bid team do not for an inch of a second think they have this in the bag because they will definitely have a rude awakening.
  23. Too late..they've missed the boat..the forum members have concluded..Istanbul 2020 is done and dusted..deadline missed!.. ....jokes aside...I think the website actually looks much better then previous years..
  24. Wouldnt it be lovely to be able to communicate to members of the bid team somehow..if these bid teams were smart they would be making regular visits to these forums..information regarding the website would be questions id like to ask right now
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