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  1. The behaviour of the Spanish on these forums, has really turned me off the Spanish bid. I really hope this race comes down to Istanbul vs Tokyo.
  2. It seems like the Japan forums have been infested with "trolls" posting everything negative about Tokyo, trying to tarnish the bid.
  3. I think this race is still neck and neck. If there wasn't any social unrest in Turkey, I think Istanbul would have been favourite now, however I think now its anyone's games. Its probably going to come down to that final presentation. its going to be pretty predictable what Tokyo are going to spill the "secure games" blah blah...But will the emotional pull from Istanbul's presentation...a first Muslim majority nation to host, etc...Will the emotional pull be powerful enough..time will tell. I think Istanbul bid team should really drum home the fact that the region with all its problems, needs something like the games to bridge it together...As much as I think that is rubbish and that neighbouring nations see Turkey as a foe, and any games wouldn't change that. The message should be along those lines to get that emotional vote.
  4. One supporter of Istanbul 2020 may be UEFA....I can just see in 2024...when UEFA go back to the normal format of one hosting nation. They would be probably be keen to have Turkey freed up for a Euro 2024...otherwise I can just see the same thing happening again, where Turkey will have to step back for another Olympic bid...only of course if Istanbul doesn't finally give up its Olympic dream after 2020..and other big nations like Germany, France, England..dont step up to host another Euro event.
  5. So we'll have to wait for the actual evaluation reports, to get a more clear understanding of what the IOC felt about the visits...I guess it makes sense that they would be more diplomatic post visit...then in the report, they will get more technical and pick at each and every part of the visit.
  6. The purpose of the stadium is to provide a fantatic backdrop for the ceremonies....its the bids "wow" factor...and it wont be a "white elephant" because after the games it will be dissembled and be a small to medium sized entertainment venue...
  7. Does anyone remember when the head of the IOC critisized or made negative comments about a city after an evaluation visit...I want to know if he is being diplomatic with his comments about each city...or if he actually means it.
  8. That may be true. However keep in mind security was always going to be an issue with a Turkish bid. With this annoucement it basically lifts one of the major hurdles...aside from the bids basic technical requirements.
  9. The ceasefire would be a HUGE boost for the bid. In the past the PKK has hit soft targets in Turkey..however recently they've focused more on fighting against government forces...with stability and peace in the south eastern corner of the country..will come a much less threat and also you may find people that originally migrated from eastern Turkey to the western cities may just migrate back...as peace will no doubt bring prosperity and development to the country's eastern provinces.
  10. Although its good news..but seriously i think it should be expected. These companies are the ones who will profit most with exposure during the games...not only that im sure a lot of the visitors will be using Turkish Airlines to get to Istanbul, will be eating Ulker foods, etc...they will make gain much much more back if the games is are awarded to the city..
  11. The one thing I see a negative in Tokyo's otherwise very strong bid is the politics of the country. The country has seemed to have swung to the extreme right. There is an increase in military spending and I dont think Japan is having very good neighbourly relations at the moment. Japan obviously really wants this, and I dont know how much China would want them to have it..How powerful the Chinese lobby would be able swing votes in Asia or Afica..who knows...still i wouldnt think it would be good thing to be n bad terms with one of the world's economic super powers..
  12. A Turkish opening ceremony would be amazing..so much history and culture..from Mongolia to the Seljuqs...Ottomans and Ataturk...Compared to a Tokyo opening ceremony, which would contain culture we've seen before. Id consider a Tokyo victory boring too.
  13. So far...from the indoor athletics, to the tennis and swimming, there has been really positive feedback about the organisation...which is fantastic news for the bid
  14. Phelps' coach backs Istanbul to host "outstanding" Olympic Games Friday, 14 December 2012 By Emily Goddard at the Sinan Erdem Arena in Istanbul December 14 - Istanbul's hosting of the FINA World Short Course Championships has already received major global acclaim, with the likes of Bob Bowman - coach to the most decorated Olympian of all time, America's Michael Phelps - going so far as to endorse the Turkish city's 2020 Olympic and Paralympic Games bid. More than 160 National Federations have sent over 900 of the sport's top athletes to the event here, which is being hosted in Europe's largest multi-purpose indoor sports arena, and which started on Wednesday (December 12). The Dome has already played host to Serena Williams' WTA Championships victory this winter; its transformation into an elite swimming arena, complete with demountable pool, took just seven days. "I have been really impressed with these world-class Championships here in Istanbul; the level of organisation and support from the crowds and media has been fantastic," Bowman said here. "There is no doubt that Istanbul has a real appetite and passion for international sports events and I am convinced that this iconic city would make an outstanding host of the Olympic Games." His comments will come as a boost to Istanbul, which is currently involved in a bid race with Madrid and Tokyo for the 2020 Games. "The City Where Continents Meet" is the slogan of the World Short Course Swimming Championships, which is providing a major boost to Istanbul 2020 Earlier this year, Mark Spitz, whose record of seven Olympic gold medals in a single Games Phelps broke in Beijing in 2008, had also backed Istanbul's bid. "The FINA World Championships is going to be another elite sports competition that combines world-class conditions for athletes and their teams with the unique flavour of Istanbul," said Hasan Arat, the leader of Istanbul 2020. "Our major events so far this year have been hugely successful: the WTA Championships set record aggregate and average attendances and the IAAF World Championships was a total sell-out. "Turkey is building up a strong pool of event-hosting capacity, and Istanbul 2020 is tapping into it. "Time and again, we are proving ourselves trusted, effective hosts of world sport's top properties." Great news for Istanbul 2020
  15. Yes you would expect these big companies would come together to bring the games to Istanbul. Seeing as though they are the ones who will be making the big $$$ if the games do come.
  16. How bad are actually Japan's finances...I've read a few articles on it now...but how serious is it...if anyone can fill me in
  17. I have read that the traffic in Istanbul since the start of the holidays has been actually running smoothly...close to a million people have left the city for a 12 day break, which completely changed the traffic conditions...Is this true our Istanbul forum members??
  18. Obviously the topic of discussion here, its the topic of discussion in all the world's majors http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/5375c710-114c-11e2-8d5f-00144feabdc0.html#axzz29YUOGMZF Transport: Infrastructure funding offers speedier route to recovery By Shawn Donnan in Istanbul City link: the Marmaray rail tunnel is due to be completed in 2013 When the team assessing the various cities bidding to host the 2020 Games presented their report to the International Olympic Committee in May, they offered a sober assessment of Istanbul’s transportation challenges. “Significant transport infrastructure upgrades are planned,” the authors wrote. “Should these not be completed there is a risk of extended transport times for athletes travelling from the Olympic Village to the venues located around the city.” IN Istanbul: Business & Finance 2012 Underlying that statement is an awkward reality for Istanbul: no matter what it has done over the years it has struggled to keep up with its own allure and the resulting growth. The sprawling city has spent billions upgrading its transportation network to cope with a population that, since 1950, has grown from just over a million to more than 15m today. By 2020, according to some predictions, another two million people will call it home and there are those who expect it to grow to 25m within a decade or two. But its congested roads and creaky transport infrastructure remain one of Istanbul’s weak points. Strike out for home at rush hour and you are confronted with six-lane arteries overwhelmed with cars and buses and taxi drivers who blanch at the idea of venturing into what they view as traffic black spots. The city’s metro stations heave with commuters, the unluckiest of which can face a three-hour trip home. The city has ambitious plans to change all that. In May it awarded the $2.5bn contract to build a third bridge across the Bosphorus near the Black Sea to a Turkish-Italian consortium that has promised to complete construction by 2015. Designed to ease congestion by drawing heavy trucks away from Istanbul, it will also link up with a third airport for the city. Further south, where the Bosphorus spills into the Sea of Marmara, construction is under way on two new tunnels linking the European and Asian sides of the city. The first of those, the Marmaray rail tunnel, is due to be completed in 2013 and will link up with the city’s two existing airports and the city centre. The second, the Eurasia Bosphorus road tunnel, is due to be completed by 2016. Istanbul’s metro system is also expanding, with the first line on the Asian side opening this year and construction under way on a new bridge across the Golden Horn, the body of water that bisects the European side. Those ambitions all combine to make Istanbul’s infrastructure investment programme one of the most aggressive in the world, experts say, and all of it is badly needed just to catch up with past population growth. Still, it is not without potential constraints or controversy. According to Martin Spicer, manager of the International Finance Corporation’s southern Europe infrastructure programme, European banks are returning slowly to the local project finance market they have traditionally dominated after the eurozone crisis put any new business on hold. But Turkey’s national ambitions – over the next three years the country is rolling out $10bn-$15bn in projects – also mean the market for financing “is difficult”, Mr Spicer says, “and will be a constraint to meeting this aspiration of building all this infrastructure”. A number of Istanbul’s infrastructure projects have also drawn controversy. Critics of plans for the third bridge fear it will accelerate Istanbul’s sprawl towards the Black Sea, threaten a forest on the European side, and in the end do little to address the city’s traffic problems. Like the two that came before it, says Cemal Gokce, president of the Istanbul branch of the Turkish Chamber of Civil Engineers, the third bridge will only serve to open up new areas to development. “It will draw more people from the rural areas and precipitate sprawl all the way to the Black Sea,” he says. Drawing heavy trucks away from the centre of the city and the existing bridge will do little as they now account for only 2-3 per cent of the traffic on the bridges. Better, he says, would be a much more aggressive investment in public transportation. To an untrained eye, with its air-conditioned carriages and clean stations, Istanbul’s Metro system appears remarkably efficient. But there are just 70km of line, Mr Gokce points out, compared to the 500km in a city like London, which has less than 60 per cent the population of Istanbul. “Ninety per cent of this city’s transportation relies on roads [and] most of it is private cars. We have to give people some more choices,” he says.
  19. Thats interesting seeing as though Beijing would probably be the best host city in terms of comparison..Although im also interested to know if Rio had such concerns, with its large population
  20. Sorry I thought your parents visited Istanbul in 1984...My mistake. Sorry I thought your parents visited Istanbul in 1984...My mistake.
  21. Believe or not I've heard Istanbul's metro trains run more efficiently then Melbourne's...and from what I've heard about Sydney, the metro there isnt much better then Melbourne's.
  22. I dont think you can compare Istanbul of 1984 to Istanbul of 2012. Turkey has changed a lot in the last 10 years, let alone nearly 30...Not just you but all of us should see the city for ourselves properly before we make a judgement on its traffic..during peak and non-peak hours
  23. Well I'd imagine the same questions will be asked in relation to the traffic concerns...and after the 5th attempt...you would hope the Istanbul bid team would know what is expected and these upgrades have been as a result of the reviews from previous bids...
  24. My family was there this year, and they did say the traffic was horrendous. So going by that the bid team will need to do a lot of work and convincing to win the IOC
  25. If the Istanbul locals on these forums are saying that non-peak hour times the traffic isnt so bad I dont know how anyone hear can dismiss their claims. They live in the city, we dont. Unless they are lying, which would come out anyway, then we need to consider that seriously. Yes in peak hour Istanbul is bad..but the olympics will not simply be in peak hour...think its time to have a look at the bid-book again
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