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  1. I can say a Toronto 2024 bid is imminent. The decision to kill the bid in 2014 will be overturned. Rob Ford was the main reason why the bid was killed, his negativity rubbed off on a majority of the Executive committee members. With John Tory in the mayor seat, the change in atmosphere and perception is a total 180. I can say there are city councillors that were against a bid last year who now have changed their stance on this matter. The bid has big name support behind it. Preliminary plans have always been in place. Stadium and Athlete's village will still be in the Portlands.
  2. Finally this is available for public viewing!! Based on Toronto's competitor profiles, the city views Paris and an American bid as its strongest competitors over any South African bid.
  3. I just love seeing all these cranes up
  4. Cleared Tulsa is #1 on our main competitor's list. Los Angeles and San Francisco who?
  5. We're really talking about venue names? Seriously!?! I've recently have been in contact with authoritative figures, sporting community, etc. at a general lunch last week. Not going into detail as it is still very early but what I can say is the City of Toronto is quite confident and this thread will be very active by years end. It's already active but you know what I mean.
  6. I see that it has begun. You'll be seeing more media reports throughout the next couple months. I really like this project. It will transform this part of downtown and will change Toronto's skyline big time. It's a great idea to develop downtown parkland and over old railland. The expansion of the convention centre is needed.
  7. Toronto didn't have a "front runner label" for 2008. Beijing had it all the way through. There's many different possible scenarios that could play out. Without bidding, the city would not even have a chance. If it bids, it will be shortlisted giving it a chance. It's not like an impossible feat but it would be a uphill battle. I also believe the city wouldn't allow this to go forward unless it believed it had a fighting chance to win it. This would be the 3rd attempt.
  8. That's one thing that Toronto's bidding team would need to work hard on. Coming up with a compelling argument as to why the city should be awarded the games besides it probably having the best bid out of the bunch of candidates which in reality will probably be true. After all, the majority of votes is based on political b.s.. I will agree that will be difficult for the bid team to work on. I never did say Toronto would win 2024. I'm here as a supporter. The city has publicly made its intentions known that they're pursuing a bid for 2024. This is fact. Hence, why I'm here to discuss that. Maybe there is an ignorance toward Durban. I'm just being real, that's all and you guys definitely are informing me of things about the city that I didn't know..so yeah, it is ignorance. I still don't think Durban will be the far away favourite just because its Africa. Going to a new frontier so soon after Rio and potentially Istanbul seems very iffy to me. That view of mine won't change.
  9. I'm talking about the city's significance on the world stage? Who's looking out for Durban? I never hear about this city unless its discussed about here on these boards.
  10. Well with all the socio-economic problems in Africa, you'd think spending it on an Olympics would be the last thing on the list. And that's not even close to scrapping the bottom of the barrel with Africa.
  11. It's nice to read the pro's some of you've listed in Durban's defense such as the stadium being compatible for T&F, sport facilities, and the climate. But what else does it offer? Is spending billions on an Olympics a top priority for an African city? No one has really answered my previous question. I should rephrase it. What significance does Durban have in the world now?
  12. My question is why Durban? What world significance does this city have besides being a tourist spot for the beach? I already know people will say, it's because they have a brand new stadium in place. Shouldn't South Africa choose one its more well recognized cities (Johannesburg/Cape Town) to host Africa's first Olympics? Just sayin'
  13. I'd disagree with you labeling Toronto as "boring". I feel as if some people's mentalities are stuck back in 2000. Lot's has changed and more will change in the near future. The city is quite vibrant and has an ever growing arts and cultural scene. The growth within its downtown Metropolis has been undeniably outstanding, a massive amount of new developments are under construction and are in the planning stages, various areas such as the redevelopment of the waterfront, brand new tourist attractions, hotels, condominiums, art gallery, sporting facilities, high end retail, and run down industrial areas being transformed into new sophisticated communities. Toronto would offer a unique waterfront based plan just like its 2008 bid, probably more compact this time around. Public Infrastructure has been improved since its last bid in 2001. Transportation links have been created between potential venue cluster sites, although there will be more transportation links to be constructed to better the ever growing population of Toronto's downtown core. There are more sporting venues that will be constructed and already in place for the bid thanks to its hosting of the 2015 PAG plus the hosting experience, planning, logistics,etc. There are way more positives than negatives this time around for the potential of Toronto's bid. And addressing your Durban comment, what history? Are you referring to Apartheid for the country as a whole? You also forgot another weakness with its past bids. It's international relations with influential figures in the sporting worlds and IOC weren't that great. The city made sure this time around that it has built those relationships and continues to grow on them before they could realistically see themselves getting those extra votes that they normally would not have gotten in the past.
  14. And I still stand my ground and say 2024 will be between Toronto, the USA chosen city, Paris and another major world city from Europe. Durban is ridiculously over rated. Just being brutally honest!
  15. The name of this thread should be changed to Toronto 2024. Feasibility study released in March recommending a bid; Overwhelming support from city council; I just can't see council voting down the bid.
  16. The Feds don't want to support a World Expo bid for 2025. Now Toronto city council can concentrate only on a 2024 Olympic bid with their preliminary study which is to be released in I believe March.
  17. I really liked the potential with that venue. Hmmm, I wonder if they can overcome that security concern with a 2024 bid or else it will be held in St.Catherines.
  18. I think all events will stay within the Ontario region including Soccer. It will obviously be in Hamilton, Ottawa, Vaughan, 2-3 venues in Toronto (BMO, UofT, and Rogers Centre) I have a question for those that can remember back to 2001. With Toronto's 2008 bid, I know Rowing and Canoeing was supposed to be held at Lake Ontario. I know the IOC brought up security concerns with this. Was this the only criticism with this specific venue?
  19. Are you serious with Vancouver and Calgary? Those cities are very far from Toronto.
  20. One would have to assume that Rogers would be a big partner involved with the stadium and its costs.
  21. Good to hear "Toronto 2024" officials are in London getting the word out and gauging interest.
  22. Expect to hear more rumblings once London 2012 kicks off. Let's say something were to happen like it did with the 2020 bid cycle. Rome was touted as a favourite and they withdrew their bid. Istanbul has a very good chance at winning it now. I'm pretty sure people thought Istanbul was a pipedream even before the application process for 2020 became official? You never know what the future holds. You can throw all the "this country has hosted this "X" amount of games" which I understand where your coming from but once a city gets shortlisted they have an equal chance at winning the games. That's just my pov. Toronto will arguably put forth the best bid once again but obviously that isn't enough to win. That takes place after the shortlisting. Basically what I'm trying to say is Toronto will be a very strong competitor regardless. I wouldn't discount them. I'm starting to think 2024 will be a showdown in the Americas again. I can see Mexico joining in on the fun. I'm thinking these will be the bidders: Toronto Chicago Durban Doha Baku Paris Guadalajara Dubai Losers from 2020 Shortlisted Toronto Chicago Paris Durban Loser from 2020 That is one very stacked up line of contenders. It will be very exciting to watch for sure!
  23. This is a news clip from CTV http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=718444
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