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Everything posted by mattygs

  1. As a reference, I believe the 2006 study for Christchurch had downhill at Mt Hutt, with the run being extended down into the cark parking area, obviously nordic events set for Snowfarm in Wanaka, Bobsleigh around Porters Pass.
  2. As a side note Bruce, I'm wondering if you had contemplated the possibility a youth winter games bid (or a summer one for Auckland)?
  3. Interesting reading Bruce. While I'm not in the camp of seeing this as a realistic option at the moment, it's good to see someone asking questions, and asking those questions in relation to Agenda2020. Certainly a different approach to Bruce Ullrich and the feasibility study done for the 2006 Games (a surprisingly large and comprehensive document which was produced btw). I guess all options need to be on the table with the current situation we are in for the 2022 Games. The one aspect of this concept is that it includes Queenstown, something that was severely missing from the Christchurch 2006 bid plan, how you could even mention a Kiwi Olympic Winter Games bid and not including this..... is beyond me. Still, once the transport is overcome, I am not entirely sure of public support. I kind of see NZ as the Sweden/Norway of the Southern Hemisphere - the public are very sceptical of events like this and spending on it. I think a key for any NZ bid for a winter games or commonwealth games, has to be that we need to stay away from the number 8 wire mentality. If we are serious about bidding for anything, we need to stay clear of naive minds who think it's ok to propose speed skating in a wool shed. As odd as it sounds, container terminal was proposed as a venue for 2006. On the opposite end of the spectrum, we had the hugely successful and professionally well run 2011 rugby world cup. In any case, it's nice to see a new angle. It asks many questions, and that can't be a bad thing at the moment for the Olympic movement, in particular for the winter Games.
  4. I like it, though the explanation seems a bit weak. FIFA really do seem to be having an identity crisis with branding their world cups though, they seem to be craving to come up with an equiv of the Olympic rings. We had the attempt to use the 2002 logo in all subsequent logos, then moved to the frame format of the South Africa 2010 logo (which most of the other fifa championships and events also used, and now all FIFA logos seem to be taking the form of the trophy of the event.
  5. I kinda thought it did seem smaller that I thought it would, however, I thought that about almost every cauldron I saw. When you think about how such a central point of any given main stadium it is, and how it is the focal feature of any opening ceremony, I was surprised at how tiny they appeared. Nagano's, Munichs and Barcelona's seemed pretty small to me. I think they had just finished with the special Olympics when I was in Athens, but even then, it looked so sparse. I think the problem is there seems to be no natural reason to go out there. Whereas Barcelona, Munich, Sydney etc are all bustling with life, I don't think I saw anyone else at the Athens Olympic park. Graffiti everywhere, though to be fair, 2011 seemed to be the European summer of people tagging important or historic buildings.
  6. It was there in 2011 when I visited, and I've just had a look at one of Michael's photos from his trip to Athens in the last month, and it's still there in all its glory.
  7. To be fair, I think to a large degree for many foreigners it's the other way round. There is a struggle to match Bali to Indonesia, I think to many Bali is....... Bali. So maybe that's something to work on.
  8. I just attempted to watch some of the closing ceremony. What is it about the Asian Games (and their hybrids), their ceremonies seem to end up as a total want fest. I watched some of the Indonesian handover. what was the deal with that long winded introduction video, outlining ring roads and stating that they had been *preparing since early* Surely the public doesn't need a lesson on current government funding and public policy , just come out and do your wee dance then go home.
  9. I guess Sydney was the last in a particular era of stadium theatre, things became a little more abstract after Sydney and Salt Lake. Sydney also had the benefit of being able to go in any direction to present itself to a world which to a large degree didn't know much about it. This was a benefit and curse of London and Melbourne perhaps. The world was well aware of British history and London, and likewise, the Commonwealth has been well introduced to Australia and even Melbourne. I suppose the ceremonies team decided then to go down a far more conceptual angle, with London deciding to base their ceremonies around their history of revolutions, as opposed to history. Melbourne, decided to go for those more unique and quirky things that they see to be in Melbourne, much of it reminded me of of most of their promotional work here in New Zealand. An audience which doesn't want a wo to go history of the city, but is more interested in trams, the laneways, the food, the culture etc etc. While Melbourne may not have been the favourite for many in terms of contents, you'd be doing it tough to find a better produced show I think.
  10. Possibly the baton arriving on a surfside bus service, a gaggle of ferral jacked up sluts on board - yelling abuse at every non-Australian as it encircles the athletes.
  11. Melbourne is perhaps even more of a surprise considering the original director of the ceremony (Nigel Jamieson) left in 2005. I believe most of his ideas were also changed, so it was a fresh theme and script introduced by Andrew Walsh.
  12. Great topic.... I think my top 12, in no particular order (just the order that they come into my head)... - Athens 2004: Allegory (while the cycladic head may have been the show stopper, the big scene setter for me was the reading of Mythistorema 3. That short reading set the whole pattern and concept of the opening ceremony. - Athens 2004: Book of Life/DNA: (the simplistic but highly beautiful moment of the female character rising her arms into the sky as the double helix was formed. Epic. - Melbourne 2006: Under the Milky Way: (agreed with other posters, this is the one kind of feature that Sydney lacked. It had a modern touch, but was at the same time beautiful, with a well worked grunty soundtrack. I'd call this segment magical - London 2012: Pandemonium (would have to go down as one of the most epic pieces of stadium theatre purely for ambitious set transformation. - Barcelona 92: El Mar Mediterrani (again, sits with Pandemonium as one of the class epic bits of Olympic ceremonies. It may have borrowed a fair bit from a few other ceremonies of the couple years prior, but again so ambitious with a classic piece of music. It showed its class by the so understated, simple but highly effective finishes aswell - Manchester 2002: Common Wealth (always said this is my favourite closing ceremony piece full stop. A fantastic soundtrack, haunting, beautiful, ambitious, with a great message at the end - Sydney 2000: Cauldron Lighting (moments when you witness something and you know it's special and you won't see anything like it repeated for some time. That is the feeling I got from the whole sequence, and to be honest, there hasn't been such expectation around a cauldron lighting since. - Atlanta 96: Shadow Play (i've always stood up for the atlanta opening ceremony , i think it was an amazing production. This was the highlight, a fantastic bit of music from Basil Poledouris and just so so clever. -LA84: Rhapsody in Blue (just so eye catching and classic - Beijing 2008: Dragon Pillar segment (my favourite part of this opening ceremony. I loved the music, the colour, the stadium looked fantastic, also some really good camera angles have stuck this in my head as one of my favourites. - Lillehammer 94: opening finale (the sequence featuring the vetter and the egg. It is pretty simplistic really, but mixed with the location and environment I would challenge anyone to find a segment more representative of the winter Olympics. Loved it. - Sochi 2014: ballet (some fantastic choreography and lighting in the ballroom themed piece.
  13. Gees, wasn't that abit of a mess. I really just don't know what the thinking was behind it. Well, I know the theme was all back to ours, or something like that, but it really didn't seem to have any real concept. I am still struggling to see where the budget for these ceremonies actually went, pup tents can't be that expensive. I did like the stage and light construction though, and did enjoy the Kylie part as well as the final moments. The Gold Coast handover was interesting. I guess maybe I would take it for granted how familiar the city is to Kiwis, with God knows how many of us living there, maybe it's not that well known in the COmmonwealth. Perhaps it was the right tact to take, and Jessica certainly put in a good performance. It was vibrant and was a highlight. Overall, the closing just didn't seem to have much structure at all.
  14. I saw that on stuff the other day. Must say, and I have held this opinion for some time, that a Christchurch bid just doesn't appeal to me. Even looking that far into the future, they have bigger fish to fry, and I just don't see them having the infrastructure to pull off a hosting. Must say the Auckland regional bid is an interesting one, though I'm not totally against it. The only proviso would be that venues outside of Auckland weren't selected just for the sake of it, but instead, because the city is unable to facilitate the event. While I think Auckland could do with a veledrome, I can understand the appeal of using the Avantidrome in Cambridge, only downside is this is one of the big com sports in NZ, and it would be shunted out of the city. Obviously Hamilton has two good arenas in the form of Mystery Creek and Claudlands, but Auckland seems abundant in indoor stadia. Vector Arena, Trusts Stadium, North Shore Events Centre, Vodafone Events Centre and ASB Stadium. In addition to that you have the ASB showgrounds and the various pavillions there, and the Viaduct Events Centre. One would imagine the new Skycity convention centre would be used for media. So, not entirely sure if Claudlands would need to be used .
  15. Yeah, i'm not quite sure what the deal is with the Sky commentary. Is it a host broadcasters feeds commentary which broadcasters can access? I note that we have the Kiwi netball and hockey commentators for instance. I must say too, I do enjoy tuning in to the gymnastics and yet again hearing the voice of Steve Robilliard, you know it's an Olympics or Com Games when you hear him. But yes, I'm not quite sure why they haven't seen any many over, it seems like their host team is an extended the crowd goes wild episode. Still, pleased with the amount of content we are getting, wall to wall on 5 channels is fantastic.
  16. I really don't get it. Of course this is a second tier event, they're hardly ripping up the track or sending shockwaves through the pool at the Asian or Pan-Am Games either. The Olympics are always the ultimate, they always will be. While it's an interesting bunch of comparisons they have done there (granted in very few sports) and worth a read, the whole *are the Commonwealth Games past it/second tier event* is just lazy journalism that they pull out every 4 years.
  17. Haha. I like the piece of music, but I don't think it works well when you're hearing it constantly in a short period of time.
  18. Thought it would be good to have a wee collection of some of the music featured in Glasgow 2014, both ceremonies as well as in and around the venues. There was some pretty neat music in the opening ceremony, and no doubt there will be a bunch more in the closing ceremony. The Mother We Share (instrumental) - Chvrches Opening Ceremony Countdown I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) - Sleeping at Last Opening Ceremony Ballet Smeorach Chlann Domhnaill - Julie Fowlis Opening Ceremony Baton Relay Moving On Up - Primal Scream Opening Ceremony Finale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peugq83Fv2c Gaishgeachd - Greg bowman Medal Ceremony Music http://gregbowmanmusic.bandcamp.com/releases
  19. The music was fantastic for it though, can't fault that. However I didn't entirely get the little twirly bits and pieces as it changed hand. But yeah, I was hoping for something a little bit more interesting, after what we had in Manchester and Melbourne. I know it's hard to jazz up the baton, but we have the glowing light in the baton, surely they could have incorporated that somehow.
  20. I see what you mean with this. Personally, I didn't mind the Glasgow opening ceremony announcer - who was Zoe Diamond (useless piece of information), that can be heard on the BBC World Service. It probably did fit the form of this opening ceremony. Likewise, I liked Anthony Davis doing the stadium announcements for Manchester 2002, though I'm sure many people would have found him annoying, and Layla Anna-Lee doing the London opening ceremony. They all just seemed to have the right voices that suited those particular ceremonies. The Commonwealth Games have of late had the slightly more informal welcomes. Manchester included the spectators with them all yelling *hello......* as each nation came out. It worked well. I still think the opening moment of the Manchester 2002 opening, while not traditional in nature, is one of the best that I have seen. So much energy packed with that ... *Welcome to MANCHESTER* On the other hand, like you I loved the warm and motherly nature of the Athens 2004 ceremonies announcers, particularly the *from the Olympic stadium of Athens...... Goodnight* at the opening ceremony. Certainly has changed when the same announcers seemed to be trucked out to every opening ceremony around the world, especially the female French voice.
  21. One of the musical highlights of the opening ceremony was the fantastic cover of 500 miles by Sleeping at Last. I know it wasn't credited in all of the broadcasts, but you can find it on iTunes.
  22. I get the feeling it may have been. I struggle to see how the demolition would have fit in to the show that we got Official information released showed that it was to take place after the countdown, at which time after they'd been imploded, dry ice would fill the arena, as if the rubble was falling in there aswell It was supposed to be a sign of Glasgow recognising its past and moving in to the future. They then said that they would be moving in a different direction. Interesting with the Melbourne budget, it certainly seemed like a show that had a decent one. I wonder how big a chunk of the cash goes to rigging up an extensive fly wire system (which Glasgow didn't have), in addition to the pretty complex stage system (which was a bigger deal that the ground cover in Glasgow).
  23. Certainly better than the bucket of crud from Toronto, but still looks like abit of a weak logo, certainly not as good as Rio's in 2007. Visually it's nice though. You can say a lot of things about the London, Sochi and Glasgow logos, but at least they were quite strong marks, this seems a tad wishy washy.
  24. The Pacific Games have only just made a ruling to allow Australia and New Zealand compete in them, and only then, in a couple of sports - sevens , weightlifting, taekwando and sailing (odd mix). I really don't see them being able to wiggle their way in any further, as they would completely dominate.
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