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  1. Postpone again this year. It should be 2022 or bust for Tokyo.
  2. One of the issues with the 2012 proposal is that it was centered around a Manhattan plan. Had it been a Queens plan from the get go, things may have been different - perhaps if it were sold as a means of primarily helping redevelop parts of the outer boroughs. NYC 2012 looked bad b/c they had to change it all last minute. Like you, I believe a Queens park proposal would make for the best attempt. But like Boston, NYC residents have what seems to be an innate cynicism when it comes to these grand proposals. NYC got further along in the process for 2012 than Boston for 2024 but, in both cases, we saw major ultimate public opposition. I'd like to see a NYC games sometime. But I wouldn't put $$$ on it happening.
  3. Exactly. I don't know why we should be obliged to be enthusiastic about this selection simply because it's the Olympics. I understand it was one of two less than ideal candidates. But that doesn't make it any better. You're right. That's the "tragedy" if you will about this whole 2022 bidding process. The IOC has a lot of work to do to make winter games bidding more appealing for potential hosts. There are many great possible venues in the world for winter games. It's a shame it came down to two places that are far less than desirable.
  4. I, for one, would look forward to viewing the ceremonies in a more wintry setting than what we've seen in recent Winter Olympics.
  5. Where? That's odd considering I don't use the moniker elsewhere. And if some comments and opinions are viewed as "complaining" then there are certainly some thin skins around, that's for sure.
  6. No I'm not "still bitching." In fact, it's not bitching at all. And as for "credibility" this is an open forum for the free expression of opinions. If you find said opinions objectionable, you need not continue reading or replying. I don't need your validation of "credibility." And there's no statute of limitations on when subjects can be discussed.
  7. Believe me, I'm well "over it." Different doesn't mean better. And the criticisms are warranted. Go back to sleep.
  8. Sure they were highly televised, and highly publicized. And the men's gold medal hockey game left the city, and Canada as a whole, with a warm afterglow. But all in all, these were not "great" winter games. The weather was certainly not conducive to top outdoor performances and spectating. The long track oval, and the problems there, were frankly an embarrassment considering the preparation time and money that went in. The protests left questions as to whether the citizenry was truly behind the effort, or if it was largely spearheaded by corporations and political interests. The ceremonies were largely over-produced and schmaltzy at times. There were decent moments here and there. But indoor ceremonies only drive home the point that these "winter" games could have been held in far more wintry environs where winter scenes wouldn't have to be manufactured for the benefit of TV audiences. Once again we saw a games with highly scattered venues over a large area. And the death of Nodar Kumaritashvili still begs a lot of questions about the safety and suitability of the course. Sochi may face some similar issues, especially with weather. For starters, maybe the IOC should go back to choosing winter games that actually have a decent chance of happening in winter conditions. Hopefully these past games will teach some well needed lessons on how the games should be improved.
  9. Here are a few more: Rainiest Winter Olympics Most technical difficulties at a (indoor) speedskating oval (despite years to prepare and millions of $$$) Most lip-synching during ceremonial performances Most banal and irrelevant song lyrics to ever grace a closing ceremony ("He's like...so whatever."; "Hey, hey, you, you, I don't like your girlfriend No way, no way, I think you need a new one." etc., etc.) Most vulgar subject matter of any closing ceremony (talk of how Canadians "pee in the snow" or have "sex in canoes")
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