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DamC

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  1. The Philharmonie can't host any Olympic sport, its seating capacity is way too small.
  2. That's not what the official website says: "After the Games, it will be part of the Olympic Training Centre (OTC)"
  3. the video looks amazing. i really hope they don't screw up their legacy plans with this one. I'm a bit sceptical about what's gonna happen with all the Carioca Arenas
  4. This has been discussed here but now it's official: http://www.foxsports.com/olympics/story/ioc-meets-to-review-rio-2016-pyeongchang-2018-olympic-preparation-120514 - Swimming finals will be from 10pm to midnight - some Beach Volleyball games will kick off after midnight Obviously decided to accomodate NBC, allowing them to show swimming in primetime (9-11 ET) and beach volleyball in late night (from 11:30 or even later) live (the first hour of primetime will then be dedicated to taped events i guess) Plus, the IAAF is saying that some Track & Field finals will be held early in the day (falling into European primetime). These kind of adjustments make sense and are reasonable I think (as long as you don't schedule ALL finals of a sport early in the morning like they did in Beijing)
  5. The Stadium, The Velodrome, The Copper Box, The Aquatics Centre (if they can add temporary seats), the Lee Valley Hockey and Tennis Centre could all host events
  6. Thank you for your corrections. I didn't intent to give a false impression that the support of the bid was high (I know from various articles/online polls/general media coverage of the issue that a big part of the public is hostile to the project, that's why I wrote that these numbers were a surprise to me). I over simplified the poll results because I didn't want to write a long post and badly translate the article. Also, I didn't really know what they implied by "somewhat favourable". So again, thank you for your precisions. I kinda suspected the poll was biased but I was blinded by the fact Les Echos published it (and the article doesn't really underline the questionnable nature of the poll) and my enthusiasm. I guess I still need to learn a thing or two (or ten) about lobbying and marketing. Thank you for your great post and sorry guys for posting this misleading stuff
  7. Surprising (in a good way) poll published by the economic newspaper Les Echos last week (http://www.lesechos.fr/industrie-services/services-conseils/0203938791502-jo-2024-les-franciliens-majoritairement-favorables-a-une-candidature-de-paris-1064499.php) 60% of the nationwide population is in favour of a bid (33% are not in favour). 74% of students are in favour 70% of people under 35 68% of people living in the Ile de France region 49% of retired people 50% of people over 55 (51% of people living in the South West of France)
  8. Ok, i probably used the wrong word. But what we're sure of now, is that it's up to the mayor (who seems very ambivalent on the subject, which makes sense when you consider how a large number of people are against the games/the government spending money on "big useless projects"). This is kinda weird when you think about it since most of the possible venues would be outside the city limits anyway
  9. Hollande said on TV tonight that he would back a bid if the mayor of Paris gets on with it (basically). He also said he supports the World Expo bid
  10. We have nothing official yet, so everything i'm gonna write in this post is speculation (based on what has been built in Paris, the available lands, planned venues etc.) First of all, the Olympic Village won't be in the same place. Paris 2012 planned to build it on the Clichy-Batignolles rail yards. The land has been redeveloped into a new residential neighborhood since. It was, i think, the last viable location for an Olympic Village inside the city of Paris. Now planners will have to look elsewhere in the suburbs (where there is pleeeenty of space not that far from Paris and with easy public transit access, existing or planned). Regarding the North Cluster where most indoor sports would have taken place in 2012 (in temporary arenas spread along a boulevard between the northern limit of Paris and Stade de France), it's the same problem. Most of the land is being used for the new Condorcet Campus currently under construction. To replace it, Paris Expo in Porte de Versailles (next to Parc des Princes and Roland Garros) going under heavy refurbishment over the next 10 years, could be an important part of the bid, it's large enough to host 4 indoor arenas + the existing Palais des Sports (which is actually more of an amphitheatre, perfect, albeit a little under capacity, for Weightlifting) + the Main Media Centre. The small Pierre de Coubertin Sports Arena is also nearby (it hosted the Badminton World Championships two or three years ago and could host the Olympic Tournament) The land for the Swimming complex (next to Stade de France) is still available, and the project still is in limbo. An Olympic bid would be a great way to bring the project back in the spotlight. The Olympic Velodrome which was only a project at the time of Paris 2012 is now open (and will host the World Championships next year). The Rowing/Canoeing venue would likely be the same. The slalom river still needs to be built. Bercy Arena is currently closed for two years to modernize and expand it. It will probably have a more important role for a future bid than it did back in 2005. (Gymnastics?) Now the new venues... Racing Metro is getting a new indoor rugby stadium in Nanterre, it could be split in two and turned into arenas for the games (like the Georgia Dome in Atlanta). Let's say for Handball and Volleyball. The National Rugby Federation plans to build a brand new 80k-seat stadium with a retractable roof in the South of Paris, but it's really far from the center, i don't think it should be used for anything other than Football or Rugby Sevens. As I said in my previous post, a new indoor arena for the Handball and Basketball teams of the region could be built and used for Basketball during the games. tl;dr: some venues would be the same as the 2012 bid, except for most of the indoor arenas and the village.
  11. Stade de France gets €10M every year from the French government for not having a primary tenant. That's how the stadium actually generates "profits" (around €2 millions in 2011). But I don't see a team moving in any time soon, even if Paris FC gets to Ligue 1. It simply doesn't seem possible. But the stadium already hosts a fair share of events, and, unlike Wembley in London, benefits from being the only 60k+ stadium in the region. This will change when the new National Rugby Stadium is built, if it ever gets built. But Stade De France will still have the advantage of being closer to Paris and within walking distance of 3 Metro/RER lines, and even more when the new Grand Paris Express gets built. What could benefit local clubs however is a new indoor arena (Nanterre's basketball club couldn't play the Euroleague on their home court last season for example, same for PSG Handball who is looking for a larger and more modern home than the ageing Hall Coubertin. And Qatar is also looking towards buying Paris Levallois Basketball to turn them into PSG Basket, with a state-of-the-art arena it could happen).
  12. All threads on these forums are about 2024, and more specifically, U.S. bids for 2024. No one told you?
  13. Nonsense. Maybe allow one permanent slot to Oceania but no more than that. The strength of the teams simply isn't there yet. Having as many countries from South America as from Asia or North America doesn't make sense either.
  14. I don't get why Deodoro Arena is gonna be used for Basketball, especially since they are also building a larger arena specifically for the sport in the Olympic Park. London hosted all the preliminary games at the Basketball Arena and It went well. I'm not sure having the tournament being split between two venues, including one quite far from the Olympic Village, is great for the athletes.
  15. They are, it's written in the first sentence of the article. Does the IOC even sell Summer and Winter games to different broadcasters anymore?
  16. I hate it. Still a great stadium though, I won't be surprised if it's among the venues selected to host Euro 2020 (plus SOCAR is a UEFA sponsor, i'm sure that will help)
  17. USA 2022 China 2026 England 2030 Sounds like the logical way to go for the next World Cups. Except FIFA and logic just doesn't seem to work together...
  18. Some recent pics from Lyon: Marseille: Bordeaux:
  19. Well it looks like Paris is more likely to bid for EXPO 2025 than the Olympics: http://www.lesechos.fr/politique-societe/regions/0203588239631-la-mairie-de-paris-plus-tentee-dorganiser-une-exposition-universelle-que-des-jo-1016262.php What the article says: - An Expo is cheaper than the Olympics - It lasts 6 months, so the visitors are spread over a longer period of time - It wouldn't be as majestic as Shanghai 2010. 90% of the facilities are already here and some events could take place in cities up to 2 hours away via high-speed train => good luck winning with that kind of cheap plan against a most probably more ambitious London. Good luck to whichever US city is gonna get picked by the USOC then, i'm gonna start rooting for them. If they win i'd still be able to move to the US by 2024 and experience the Olympics in "my" country
  20. Paris FC apparently have great ambitions for the coming years. They're currently in National (third division) and are trying to attract foreign investors to help them reach the elite. Maybe in the future, Paris FC will be big enough to compete against PSG. But the thing is we don't need a new Olympic Stadium in Paris, we have Stade de France, and it does pretty well with no tenant.
  21. I don't know what Tokyo needs in terms of venues, but looking at how many indoor arenas they already have, it always seemed to me that Youth Plaza was unnecessary and a waste of money, so I'm happy with that decision.
  22. You seem to forget that Platini (head of UEFA) is part of the Qatar scandal as well. If rebellion starts it will be from countries and sponsors, not from UEFA.
  23. Are they allowed to print this?
  24. WTF! no they didn't, they have ZERO seats at the city council. The candidate coming second was from the UMP, not the FN...
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