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Everything posted by GoNutz

  1. https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/nbcuniversal-tokyo-olympics-make-goods-advertising-1235028563/ NBC will definitely be winning the week, but they're not living up to previous expectations. When you have to negotiate make-goods you know someone somewhere effed up. Looking past the bad time zone, I wonder if this is an indication that NBCU's Comcast driven cable prioritization plans have finally come to the end of the road. There aren't enough OTA/cable/satellite viewers to keep them breaking records. I'm curious how this will affect NBC's future strategy.
  2. 15 hours before they're officially open, and it feels like we're watching Samuel L Jackson turn the breakers off in Jurassic Park. Hold onto your butts everybody!
  3. I was arguing in the Tokyo news thread that I believe we're definitely post peak Olympics, but they're still novel enough and enough of an attention draw for big media at least currently in 2021 to be worthwhile. Beijing is going to be a challenge not just for NBC but for the IOC as well with audience fragmentation and the novelty of the events are definitely wearing thin. I'm not sure one could argue that the city race for bidding has become a lot less competitive, and there are huge regions of the world namely the continent of Africa, and all of west and south Asia, that have zero chance of hosting the event that is meant to bridge divides and unite the world in sport or whatever flowery language they pump out like a factory. The reality is they're much closer to a patent troll that throws lavish parties for the rich and elite than they are some grand non-profit benefiting all of mankind.
  4. I didn't pick out IOC from that, I thought you were making a greater point that money is actually the true controlling factor for the IOC, and NBC being the single largest and actually greatest overall source of revenue for the IOC, does actually have a lot of power. If you add to that, that we're almost certainly past peak olympics and with audience fragmentation the way it is, and the revenue strategies of NBCUniversal while it's still a novel spectacle, it doesn't draw the single focus it has in the past. Now a domestic event like SLC, or LA will definitely draw, but Asian time zones don't lead to great coverage, and I think 2022 is going to follow and maybe even pick up speed for the downward trend especially for the winter version. I believe were NBC to push for some reforms they might be able to get something done, but I also believe that if they told NBC to take a hike, Disney would probably be right there offering nearly the same amount for rights. I'm of the belief that reform will come when a distinct downward trend in attention emerges and that could happen as early as this winter with Beijing, so I hold a flicker of hope.
  5. I know, this is entirely their show and there's no way around that. At the same time I turned on Peacock last month to replace Netflix for a while, and I plonked down $65 yesterday to turn on Hulu Live for a month so I'm just patronizing the people I criticize. NBC absolutely could push for a lot of reform, and maybe 2022 will start that, but I have no doubts in my mind that the next few weeks are going to be a ratings bonanza for NBC, and winning that papers over a lot of the chattering we do about the real ickiness of the IOC.
  6. https://www.nbcolympics.com/schedule NBC has posted their plan, there's a lot of overnight (Eastern time zone) live coverage that starts around primetime and just goes all night, so it looks pretty good. Of course I think the primetime 8pm show will be the usual chopped up medley that NBC likes to produce, but they're continuing the progression from Rio and they've got all the OBS feeds available live it looks like and Peacock has a lot of stuff on it.
  7. I don't think it's crazy or out there to think that the IOC is woefully corrupt organization, yet believe the olympic games themselves are something that is fascinating, attractive, and enjoyable to view or support. It's not black and white, the IOC is garbage, the events themselves are pretty cool. Wanting the IOC to not be terrible, at least for me personally doesn't change my feelings for watching pretty ceremonies and experiencing vicarious athletic achievements of Team USA participants.
  8. Japan has good sentiment and PR banked in the west, so their pandemic handling might just barely break through, but it's pretty commonly known about their vaccination reach. This will certainly be an interesting event. And I'm wondering what the athletic demonstration will look like, will we see records fall? I'm guessing that it will be pretty lackluster, but it might be incredible.
  9. I consider myself a fan of the Olympics, but I wouldn't call any of the criticism "cancel culture." The IOC is a terrible steward for the Olympic movement, they're bad in a way that's only matched by FIFA. Even their "reforms" have been lots of talk, little substance. In the past there have been critical organizations and movements against the events when cities vie to host, I think it's likely that those will only grow. Unless the IOC really sits down and figures out that a lot of people really have beef with them, that can't just be swept away with a shiny video package.
  10. Neat, I've been looking at Peacock on and off they have some ok stuff, maybe I'll have to buy a month or two. Yes it does, thanks! In my head I was like I can turn on Hulu Live TV for a month and just do that, but if I didn't have to I wasn't going to. Because of the time zones I might be able to get a little peek the first day or two to see if it's worth it. I've been looking at Peacock, and maybe turning off HBO for a month, maybe I'll do a swap.
  11. I've been Googling around looking for an answer, maybe you guys have seen something. Is Peacock going to be the go to solution this year for NBC's Tokyo content. I can get NBC OTA, but I'm wondering if Peacock is going to be what I want rather than also having to get some OTT on top to get USA/CNBC. Has anyone seen some reporting on how NBC is planning to broadcast?
  12. Didn't postpone already cost them around $2 billion, I'm guessing at least $3 billion in losses.
  13. Banned from public transportation? What are the Japanese playing at here? Who holds an international event and then bans international media from public transportation?
  14. You are spot on, although in my opinion the IOC lost it's credibility quite a while ago, support from TOP sponsors and other major stakeholders rests with the popularity of the event itself. The striking thing to me is that the Japanese people are not really down with holding the event this year, and I've seen I think three different reports (possibly from the same poll, I didn't delve too deep) showing that the majority are not supportive of going through with it this year. It has all the makings of a disaster about to unfold simply because of the financial rewards that may flow to certain organizations. Undoubtedly I'll watch though, and I expect a lot of people will, the aftermath is what will be the big story of Tokyo 202(0/1) and if there's any lasting carnage or if they managed to unwisely go forward.
  15. In my opinion it's a coin toss whether it goes forward or not, I've seen it reported that when surveyed 70% of Japanese people are now against going forward with the event. Doesn't the resulting bad pr from an event that goes forward outweigh the costs? Is the IOC really thinking that even a single athlete death or permanent disability that comes as a result from attending the event won't be a bolded direct line of blame that points right back at them?
  16. They'll probably package half-day old stuff for traditional prime-time filler like they usually have. Their online stuff has been on a positive trend of getting better and more and more usable, although I think their Rio stuff was pretty unreliable. I used to swipe my parents Time Warner log-in to watch some stuff even though they're in Ohio and I'm in LA, I've never subscribed to cable, it's simply overpriced and a waste of money for what you actually get, but since Vue came around I'll turn it on, every so often for certain things like college sports or olympics. I'm almost never home during prime-time during the week, and a lot of weekends, it's still nice to be able to pick and choose what exactly you want to watch and not have to rely on what their producers think will be the best. From what I've seen 2018 looks like their best online product so far, and even though I don't think I count as "younger" anymore lol, I do think they're finding the right balance for the non-cable people.
  17. I suppose it's possible. We could have working self-driving cars and stuff by then so it might not be that bad, but in today's LA, the traffic would be a literal nightmare. The other thing is using dorms for housing, USC's students comes back like the third week of August, people move back in 2 weeks to start school the 21st, I don't know about the UC system, they might be on quarters, but that's still a pretty quick turnaround from the games to students. I have no doubts they'll be able to do it, I just think it will be pretty interesting.
  18. This is true. NBC lost most of their other sports rights so they poured a ton of money and attention into The Olympics. With ABC/ESPN (NBA,) FOX, and CBS (NFL,) anyone else would have put the Olympic sports behind their main sports rights programming. Sure NBC is money grubbing and they make their money from affiliate's rights fees, retrans fees, and advertising, so it would be nice if they viewed broadcasting the Olympics as a public service, but they do offer a product for money, which is kind of the American way lol.
  19. Mehh, I think we'll need to see what happens in the years between 2020 and 2022 before we even contemplate whether or not the Olympic movement is "saved," traffic will be terrible, but at least the costs will be manageable, and the venues aren't that big of a worry. I love my city, and I like the Olympics, I hope 2028 meets or beats 1984's experience!
  20. Haven't paid enough attention lately is this awarding two at once a stunt? Eleven years in advance seems like quite a bit of time to plan and prepare.
  21. The challenges facing the IOC are only going to compound. I would rather see them disgraced than play into their stupid politics and games, a 2024 failure, and a 2028 capitulation by the USOC is only playing into their game. I'd rather wait until they are desperate then hold a US hosted games on our terms.
  22. I think if LA 2024 can't pass their anti-american bias, we should be more sparing. Sit out 2028 try for 32, 36, or maybe even wait for 40. I think LA has best the city layout for this type of thing. I would hope that any bid would be acceptable by the residents of the city, so looking for more spread out cities, where it wouldn't cause that much disturbance to most people, Houston, Phoenix, Minneapolis is pretty spread out I think. Chicago somewhere in the middle, though SF is really compact and I think it would cause a huge disruption to people, same with NY although I think NY is so big already it could absorb it and people wouldn't be too disturbed by it.
  23. People just like to bitch. In real life most Americans only really care about US Athletes. Maybe they wanna see a couple heartfelt stories about people that overcame some kind of adversity to get there but that can wear thin with a lot of people quickly. I think they can get away with a few Canadian or British athletes that have gotten pretty popular in the mainstream, or people they want to dramatize like le Clos. I think my only real criticism is their lock-in with cable companies, but what should we really expect when Comcast owns them, they're not going to do anything that doesn't help or benefit cable companies.
  24. Most medals for the US since 1984, that's pretty cool. Sports Illustrated's guess was surprisingly accurate!
  25. I don't think so. He's a moron, it's a good thing he's hot and can swim like a fish. He'd probably have gotten himself into tons of trouble if he didn't have the USA Swimming and the USOC telling him where he needed to go and what he needed to do.
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