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Everything posted by GoNutz

  1. Those predictions are wild! But I also like that at the bottom there's a link to 2023 with the same predictions.
  2. Yeah I can understand that, and even I would agree that some branding is essential to a good video experience. But I also will never pass up an opportunity to trash the committee.
  3. New Norm = worse experience for for the public. I guess that's the least we can expect for a corrupt organization like these guys I guess. It doesn't make sense though, in modern times the Olympic games are not a mass in-person event. Why not save costs by not plastering every surface with branded banners and printed plastic sheeting (that will just be thrown out) and instead make a globally accessible good web presence and experience. It just shows the backward and stupid nature of the IOC. Save money by making it harder for the public to follow but keep spending on making sure that every IOC board member is put up in at least a 4-star hotel for months. I feel the IOC is very accessible and in touch with the public!
  4. That's not a terrible experience on the schedule and results section but a real letdown compared to any recent games. I remember even the same host in 2008 had a good website.
  5. So I've been checking the beijing2022 website on and off this week because usually a week out they throw the switch and light up the big fancy site that redirects to Olympics.com and has all the athlete profiles, schedules, medal counts and stuff. And it just hasn't changed at all, then I just noticed today they've added a medals and "media extranet" links on the top of their crappy organizing committee site, and I think this is it. And I don't know what to say it's pretty disappointing to see in an age when web developers are everywhere that this is what they going with. If this is a foretaste for this event I'm going to say get ready for something pretty garbagey. Although maybe they're just waiting for the opening ceremony (that would be atypical,) or maybe they spent all their time and resources on that spyware app they're making all the athletes download, either way this crappy site https://www.beijing2022.cn/en/ makes even the old ones like Salt Lake 2002 or Athens 2004 websites look like works of brilliance in comparison.
  6. They want to simultaneously be royal rockstars, while being perceived as humble hard working organizers of amateur sporting spectacles (with their own law enforced lanes on the freeway,) and people finally wised up. It shouldn't be lost on anyone the number of members of the IOC that hold "royal" titles including majesty or highness, and expecting people like that to transform the Olympic enterprise to a true non-profit public good would be antithetical to them. The fake nobility aspect of the modern Olympics traces back to it's founding but the crass commercialization came a lot later and in my opinion is what has turned the most people off, remember it was just 12-13 years ago that the IOC was pestering the capital region of the state of Washington over their name (Olympia.)
  7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2022_Winter_Olympics_broadcasters#cite_note-list-10 I found it, it's a PDF link to what looks like a Word doc, from The Olympic Channel domain. It's comprehensive though.
  8. I think it's because they have the maple leaf icon which you can really go ham on making it look cool. We could do stripes or a star, but they're not as singular as a maple leaf is as far as design goes.
  9. Vancouver's Medal Ceremony Music has always stuck with me as among the best. Vancouver 2010 Medal Ceremony Track
  10. Well Tokyo wasn't a disaster, and now we'll have this second pandemic time games. So they've shown they can host a games that doesn't implode on itself, but will they be any good, and will they demonstrate the type of feeling and joy the IOC really hopes they portray? I'm doubtful. So we got Tokyo which was ok, it wasn't a London, but it was fine. Now we'll have Beijing, will it be a Vancouver, probably not, but it might at least be better than a Sochi.
  11. https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/nbcuniversal-tokyo-olympics-make-goods-advertising-1235028563/ NBC will definitely be winning the week, but they're not living up to previous expectations. When you have to negotiate make-goods you know someone somewhere effed up. Looking past the bad time zone, I wonder if this is an indication that NBCU's Comcast driven cable prioritization plans have finally come to the end of the road. There aren't enough OTA/cable/satellite viewers to keep them breaking records. I'm curious how this will affect NBC's future strategy.
  12. 15 hours before they're officially open, and it feels like we're watching Samuel L Jackson turn the breakers off in Jurassic Park. Hold onto your butts everybody!
  13. I was arguing in the Tokyo news thread that I believe we're definitely post peak Olympics, but they're still novel enough and enough of an attention draw for big media at least currently in 2021 to be worthwhile. Beijing is going to be a challenge not just for NBC but for the IOC as well with audience fragmentation and the novelty of the events are definitely wearing thin. I'm not sure one could argue that the city race for bidding has become a lot less competitive, and there are huge regions of the world namely the continent of Africa, and all of west and south Asia, that have zero chance of hosting the event that is meant to bridge divides and unite the world in sport or whatever flowery language they pump out like a factory. The reality is they're much closer to a patent troll that throws lavish parties for the rich and elite than they are some grand non-profit benefiting all of mankind.
  14. I didn't pick out IOC from that, I thought you were making a greater point that money is actually the true controlling factor for the IOC, and NBC being the single largest and actually greatest overall source of revenue for the IOC, does actually have a lot of power. If you add to that, that we're almost certainly past peak olympics and with audience fragmentation the way it is, and the revenue strategies of NBCUniversal while it's still a novel spectacle, it doesn't draw the single focus it has in the past. Now a domestic event like SLC, or LA will definitely draw, but Asian time zones don't lead to great coverage, and I think 2022 is going to follow and maybe even pick up speed for the downward trend especially for the winter version. I believe were NBC to push for some reforms they might be able to get something done, but I also believe that if they told NBC to take a hike, Disney would probably be right there offering nearly the same amount for rights. I'm of the belief that reform will come when a distinct downward trend in attention emerges and that could happen as early as this winter with Beijing, so I hold a flicker of hope.
  15. I know, this is entirely their show and there's no way around that. At the same time I turned on Peacock last month to replace Netflix for a while, and I plonked down $65 yesterday to turn on Hulu Live for a month so I'm just patronizing the people I criticize. NBC absolutely could push for a lot of reform, and maybe 2022 will start that, but I have no doubts in my mind that the next few weeks are going to be a ratings bonanza for NBC, and winning that papers over a lot of the chattering we do about the real ickiness of the IOC.
  16. https://www.nbcolympics.com/schedule NBC has posted their plan, there's a lot of overnight (Eastern time zone) live coverage that starts around primetime and just goes all night, so it looks pretty good. Of course I think the primetime 8pm show will be the usual chopped up medley that NBC likes to produce, but they're continuing the progression from Rio and they've got all the OBS feeds available live it looks like and Peacock has a lot of stuff on it.
  17. I don't think it's crazy or out there to think that the IOC is woefully corrupt organization, yet believe the olympic games themselves are something that is fascinating, attractive, and enjoyable to view or support. It's not black and white, the IOC is garbage, the events themselves are pretty cool. Wanting the IOC to not be terrible, at least for me personally doesn't change my feelings for watching pretty ceremonies and experiencing vicarious athletic achievements of Team USA participants.
  18. Japan has good sentiment and PR banked in the west, so their pandemic handling might just barely break through, but it's pretty commonly known about their vaccination reach. This will certainly be an interesting event. And I'm wondering what the athletic demonstration will look like, will we see records fall? I'm guessing that it will be pretty lackluster, but it might be incredible.
  19. I consider myself a fan of the Olympics, but I wouldn't call any of the criticism "cancel culture." The IOC is a terrible steward for the Olympic movement, they're bad in a way that's only matched by FIFA. Even their "reforms" have been lots of talk, little substance. In the past there have been critical organizations and movements against the events when cities vie to host, I think it's likely that those will only grow. Unless the IOC really sits down and figures out that a lot of people really have beef with them, that can't just be swept away with a shiny video package.
  20. Neat, I've been looking at Peacock on and off they have some ok stuff, maybe I'll have to buy a month or two. Yes it does, thanks! In my head I was like I can turn on Hulu Live TV for a month and just do that, but if I didn't have to I wasn't going to. Because of the time zones I might be able to get a little peek the first day or two to see if it's worth it. I've been looking at Peacock, and maybe turning off HBO for a month, maybe I'll do a swap.
  21. I've been Googling around looking for an answer, maybe you guys have seen something. Is Peacock going to be the go to solution this year for NBC's Tokyo content. I can get NBC OTA, but I'm wondering if Peacock is going to be what I want rather than also having to get some OTT on top to get USA/CNBC. Has anyone seen some reporting on how NBC is planning to broadcast?
  22. Didn't postpone already cost them around $2 billion, I'm guessing at least $3 billion in losses.
  23. Banned from public transportation? What are the Japanese playing at here? Who holds an international event and then bans international media from public transportation?
  24. You are spot on, although in my opinion the IOC lost it's credibility quite a while ago, support from TOP sponsors and other major stakeholders rests with the popularity of the event itself. The striking thing to me is that the Japanese people are not really down with holding the event this year, and I've seen I think three different reports (possibly from the same poll, I didn't delve too deep) showing that the majority are not supportive of going through with it this year. It has all the makings of a disaster about to unfold simply because of the financial rewards that may flow to certain organizations. Undoubtedly I'll watch though, and I expect a lot of people will, the aftermath is what will be the big story of Tokyo 202(0/1) and if there's any lasting carnage or if they managed to unwisely go forward.
  25. In my opinion it's a coin toss whether it goes forward or not, I've seen it reported that when surveyed 70% of Japanese people are now against going forward with the event. Doesn't the resulting bad pr from an event that goes forward outweigh the costs? Is the IOC really thinking that even a single athlete death or permanent disability that comes as a result from attending the event won't be a bolded direct line of blame that points right back at them?
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