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DarJoLe

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  1. Better late than never I guess...
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    Rio 2016 Olympic Park

    Does anybody have photos of this year's sponsor pavilions? And also of that fan zone at the apex of the Park?
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    Rio 2016 Olympic Park

    Paralympic look is only swapping out the Olympic rings for the Paralympic Agitos, and adding sponsor boards to the corrals around the field of play. However, from that shot above it looks to me like they are simply covering up the Olympic rings with blue tarpaulin...
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    Tokyo 2020 Look of the Games

    After the bright festival colours of London and Rio I wonder if Tokyo will go back to a smaller, muted, but crisp palette of colours. I can definitely see venues using the indigo blue of the logo but with sharper pops of brighter colours in certain areas say around the Rings/Agitos. As much as I would love to see red embraced it is not a good colour for TV and tends to 'bleed' on camera. It will also be interesting to see how much digital Tokyo embrace. Digital tier dressing is now commonplace across the sporting world, but cost and reluctance from the IOC has led to print-based venue look being the default. Whether Tokyo begins to nudge the IOC towards an animated look in their venues remains to be seen. I would love for the pictograms to be similar to the CGI animations at the handover, almost 3D-esque with a hint of 'Tron'. I have good feelings about Tokyo. Like London I think they could really take the concept of a 100% integrated look of a games to new heights which I don't think Rio delivered.
  5. London changed the colour combination for certain sports, aquatic sports were blue and yellow for example, more action-orientated orange and blue, blue and orange, etc. Heritage venues were a combination of purple and another colour. But London kept the overall graphic element the same throughout, so you had the burst graphic around the Olympic rings and radiating lines consistent across all the venues surrounding the field of play, it was just the colours that changed. Rio's look comes from the overall graphic which they have cropped into, the issue being the crop is different for the field of play surrounds for the blue venues to the green venues to orange venues, and I believe this is what is causing a bit of inconsistency in the venues. I'm not sure it's necessarily the wrong approach, after all there is no real correct approach to an Olympic look, but it might have been better to either remove all non-green/orange/blue elements from the tier dressing, or use a section of all the colours. The hurdles, for example in athletics, had bits of the red and purple section of the Rio overall graphic, which looked a bit jarring with the majority blue and green venue. There have been some excellent moments with the look though which have bettered on London's; they managed to change the shape of the kayak boat numbers to the pebble shape which in London the sport federation were reluctant to, as well as the horse jump flags which was an absolute battle in London because of the sharp shard shape. It's just a shame the wayfinding, no doubt because of cost, has been a very standardised rectangular shape and not something like the pebble shape boards we saw when the look renders were unveiled. Tokyo will be interesting to see what kind of 'shape' their look takes on, in some ways after the bombastic festival and hi-colour look of London and Rio I wonder if they will go the other way and look more towards a sharp dark blue look with hints of red. We shall see.
  6. The IOC will never allow the Paralympics to come first. It's an interesting political relationship between the two; the IOC do not particularly care about the IPC and what happens at the Paralympics, once the Olympic Closing Ceremony is done they are off and out of there. LOCOG was always challenged by the IOC as to why London 2012 was so integrated as an OCOG, they were never particularly enthused by the Games having the same logo for example, let alone decisions being made about the Olympics as to whether they affected the Paralympics. We were always warned against mentioning 'transition' (the logistics of turning an Olympic venue into a Paralympic venue) to the IOC as a reason to why something Olympic-related might not happen in the look, for example. The IPC on the other hand actually like being associated with the Olympics. It gives the Paralympic movement kudos and for them in some way they see the Olympics as the warm up to their event (which was the angle Channel 4 took in London in promoting the event). The biggest issue the Paralympics face is sponsorship and getting that into the games through advertising within the look for example, which was the biggest concern for the IPC on their visits and not, unlike the Olympics, about getting the event logos in the right places for broadcast and media.
  7. The velodrome was looking excellent last night, very sharp.
  8. It's really unfortunate Rio seems to have had problems with the delivery of the look. Whilst in some areas you can get away with a 'what the public don't know won't hurt them' it's annoying to see the lamp post holders actually still in place in the Olympic Park awaiting the banners. Whether these come remain to be seen. The dressing of the venues is rather haphazard, but they seem to have got the logos and FOP look in the right places, so the media at least should be happy with their shots. Some of the actual fitting leaves a lot to be desired, there's some ill-fitting tier dressing in some venues and it doesn't seem like it has been cared for in its installation in others. The high winds in the Park damaging barriers is unfortunate but it seems there's a people and logistics problem in clearing them up. At the end of the day its the sport that takes the priority and despite its complexities look is always seen even within most of the Organising Committees as nothing more than colour and wallpaper but it is an integral part of any Games's success. It's certainly working its magic in the colour stakes and bringing the sports to life and hopefully even though the Games have started the obvious challenges can be overcome.
  9. I think it's a bit early to tell at this stage with just one sport. At the end of the day the logos all have to be in certain places along the length of tiers anyway, and the look or pattern that goes in between is repeated along the tier and around the venue. London's was the burst shard graphic around the Olympic Rings/Agitos with a hot spot of colour behind that faded to dark where the host city name was. Rio's is a crop of the blobby landscape graphic from which different elements of look are created. From what I have seen so far though, whether it be time constraints or budget cuts that dressing the venues has been an issue. London had this right up to the start of the Games but Rio seems to have only dressed parts of the football stadiums that are on camera for events rather than the whole venue. This may be because of ceremony factors though and more will appear overnight and before the next event. We will see. Gymnastics looks great with the all-green as a contrast to London's all-magenta and looking forward to seeing the orange of the beach volleyball. The colour will certainly pop and be memorable on TV and in photos.
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    Rio 2016 Olympic Park

    I believe the venue colours are Orange FOP, green tiers Green FOP, orange tiers Blue FOP, green tiers The screen surrounds seem to match what the tier dressing is supposedly eventually to appear in the venues yet to have them dressed.
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    Rio 2016 Olympic Park

    Very interesting to note that with the gymnastics and women's football so far, they have only dressed the first tier of the venue that faces the camera. Budget restrictions may have curtailed dressing the whole venue which is a real shame.
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    Legacy mode

    London wouldn't have won the Games if it had proposed a football stadium as legacy of an Olympic athletics stadium.
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    Rio 2016 look of the games unveiled!

    It's all waves and curves at the end of the day, with city specific icons placed within. It's fine, it's a very typical application of cropping a large graphic that previous hosts have done, but there's nothing new here and certainly isn't yet at the integrated level that London achieved across all applications.
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    Rio 2016 look of the games unveiled!

    Very similar to Vancouver's. It'll be interesting to see its actual implementation in the venues, because at the moment it overpowers the rings and wordmark to an extent that I'm surprised the IOC won't be having words. It's nice. It's very Brazilian. It's very sporting. That's everything I can muster at the moment.
  15. The Rio Look budget is unlikely to stretch to creating Olympic Rings of the size proposed at the beginning of the thread. I know they are fantasy ideas but the scale of them is gigantic - London stretched its budget and technology just doing Tower Bridge and the massive rings on the side of the Aquatics Centre. There may well be inflatable 3D Rio emblems (how else will they float?) but the money the Look team have will always prioritise the Rings over Emblems for Venue and City 3D spectaculars, it's what the IOC favour in their Look reports.
  16. There is no way Rio has the money to make Rings that big. I doubt even the manufacturers could make them that big. I expect they will use forced perspective on the media shots similar to London's Rings on the River to make them appear closer to landmarks than they are. I doubt we'll see massive 3D emblems either.
  17. There was a lot of discussion between Heatherwick Studios, the BOA, the IOC and the Museum of London regarding this display, fully aware of the cauldron's place that it was a structure for the Games and the whole notion of it 'coming together' for the Games-time only would be diluted. The article doesn't show it but the cauldron is actually only a quarter of the structure, surrounded by mirrors to give the impression of a whole. The petals are the test versions, the original moulds which were never used at Games time. The United Kingdom's actual Games-time petal that was lit at the Opening Ceremony is placed to the side on another wall explaining this and has images of the other petals with their respective Olympic Association teams. Given the nature of the Museum, and the ever changing rotation of exhibits within the space, I'd imagine this will be the last time to ever see a substantial portion of the cauldron back together, so to speak.
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    Legacy mode

    I wouldn't say the amount of residential space has been reduced, as there's something of rather significant height going to the north of the V&A site (which is still under wraps). Something that is good though is the original intention of animating the canal side here with restaurants and bars is to continue and could become a very special space once complete. No idea if they bell is intended to be rung, it would be good though to hear it ring every 27th of the month at 20.12! For anyone who hasn't been yet the Village is now fully accessible to the public with Victory Park and the Portlands wetlands walk open to all.
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    Legacy mode

    The latest plans are for the Bell to be located in the northern gardens of the stadium, which will be the newly landscaped area to the immediate north of the stadium which during the Games was the collection of food kiosks (pretty much where there was speculation before the Games of the location of the tall tower cauldron). This landscaping will be similar to the canal side landscaping and allow people to walk across the green Victorian bridge in the centre of the Park and up onto the stadium podium level and around the canal to the stadium car park and onwards to the Lea Navigation canal and Greenway. There was an LLDC meeting recently about the location of the 9/11 memorial which consists of a steel column of the former WTC. The finalised location is on the new grassy hill outside the Aquatics Centre between the car park and Pool Road, but the LLDC are not completely taken with this location, as it does not feel the location is of the calibre required for such a memorial site, and its presence in the backdrop of the Aquatics Centre and the Orbit. The design for the V&A museum are also being finalised and will be made public in the next few months. It's located on the former site of the Waterpolo Arena and takes up the whole plot as the new building, with its plaza level connecting seamlessly to the Stratford Bridge opposite the Aquatics Centre. It is significantly larger in scale than the Aquatics Centre, very different aesthetically and is certainly what I would term an 'iconic' piece of architecture, although that turn of phrase these days is met with slight disdain. It certainly has the 'attraction' power needed to pull people to spend more time in the Park. There's definitely a lot more to come in the Park and around the Orbit the results of which will properly kick off this summer, and the Invictus Games taking place in September will again recreate some of the Park-wide magic not seen since the 2012 Games. Definitely a very healthy future ahead.
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    Sochi / Look of Games

    "Cheerful and folksy as it seems, it has a lot more to do with political maneuvering than with anything resembling traditional Russian design.." http://www.fastcodesign.com/3026349/olympics-branding-to-the-world-russia-is-one-big-happy-family-dammit#6 Not necessarily a bad thing though, pushing looks of the games towards brand messaging and away from geographical and cultural cues will naturally occur in the future as the Games tries to maintain relevance in an ever-connected shrinking global world.
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    Legacy mode

    Victoria to Oxford Circus and then the Central line to Stratford is the quickest route, 28 minutes.
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