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Everything posted by Luffy

  1. So basically two countries who were always qualified and were both winners and finalists of some of the last six world cups fall behind a country who never qualified on his own ?
  2. Well the equation is quite simple, isn't it ? They either get into the 2024 fight. Spend a lot of money and time with possibly very little success OR they sit out. Let Rome win and have a 90% chance of securing 2028. IOC will have overdose on Asia, Europe won't be eligible. Only Africa or Toronto could be a decent threat but then it will be almost three decades without games for the IOC's main partner. There is no reason to think a good US bid won't be as good as a Canadian one. Honestly, why spend 50 millions when you have a 20% chance of sucess when you can have 90 ?
  3. And it's anything like Western Europe, will do six months before being freed for good behaviour. You should do the vast majority of your sentence, especially when someone life has been taken. This is not about Pistorius though, just a general statement.
  4. Yes but you have to be honest and fair and recognize the extreme limitations in good choices to host WOG. Especially before 1990. Only Austria, Switzerland, France, Canada, Japan, USA, Norway and Italy were viable host. They throw a bone at Yugoslavia and could have gone to Sweden but that's about it. So to be it seems strange to hold this against those countries for them not hosting a SOG. I can understand people denying Paris on the basis they hosted twice but hardly on the base they hosted WOG too
  5. Nathalie was born in Paris... And she is supposed to be a counselor, she is supposed to advice the president directly and represent him at sports events so basically I don't really understand the attacks. If there is a field where France is doing well at the moment, it's in obtaining major sports events so the critics are a bit harsh. And saying Valls should be sent to Spain just because he wasn't born in France or calling Sarkozy an Hungarian jew like some people do is an atrocious thing to do. Disagreeing politically with someone can done without racism.
  6. And stade of France also host a lot of rugby matches, concerts etc. Is it really that strange to other countries that people and politics in France like the idea of having 20 teams in 20 rather big cities instead of having 7 clubs in Paris just because it's the capital ? Paris has a good football, handball, more than decent Basket and two Rugby teams, does it really need more than this ? I think that's cooler to have a first league team in almost in every big city but that's just my opinion
  7. Yes but that's denying two simple truth about olympics bids. Firstly that there is others countries able to do one as good as you and Secondly there will be one great bid for at least one of those countries. No one is denying that the US can win an olympic bid for example, but there is no chance a SOG race end up in a 2022 situation where LA is left only with Baku. Sure the US can 2024 but like Tokyo in 2020, they will have at least to defeat one of the likes of Rome, Berlin and Durban etc
  8. There will always be another viable candidate against them and Paris like any other cities has to accept that. We are used to the: "We won't make a bid if we don't think we can win" blabla from everyone. And it's pretty stupid to be honest. The only way Paris or any major European city, or the USA cannot be contenders is when their continents isn't favored by the IOC geopolitics. Apart from that there is always hope but also there is always going to be at least one or two major contenders in the mix, a Rome, Madrid, Berlin, LA, Cape Town, and Shanghai to fight against them. What Paris shoul
  9. I think it's much cooler for people who love football to have matches every night for six days in a row instead of having only two matches in 15 days.
  10. Except that For Fifa, nothing went wrong at all. They are still very happy with their decisions and don't care about humans rights and worker conditions at all and just want beautiful stadium and lucrative events. I do not wish to open the debate on an unrelated topic, but you guys should really realized that the only difference between Fifa and IOC is that the IOC has better little ants working for them making them look organised and more democratic than they are. Just like FIFA, they are just of bunch of spoiled brats, princess and cheicks, most of them having never played any sport at a
  11. Well of course it has everything to do with the emergence of the US as the world first nation and not so much with England. I think the US prefers, for logistic purposes, for easier travel for its fans and maybe for just having more cultural aspects in comon, to see the game awarded to Australia or England and that helped them get the few votes more they needed to win the games. Thinking that isn't taking away the greatness of London 2012 and Sydney 2000 off, nor diminishing the extreme quality of the bids.
  12. Still a lot of sports federation see it at their alibi for saying they went to Africa when they could do much more to devellop their sports in other countries.
  13. Humm I have a feeling this thread won't stay up forever . Anyway Istanbul is a good city and would make a good host, the problem is that so does 50 others cities and there is always a reason not to pick one
  14. I cannot take Qatar anymore. How much events a one million people country can host in empty stadiums ? And I hate it that so many organisation use Qatar and South Africa as their new frontiers
  15. I was amazed when people told me qualification was going to be shitty. I thought otherwise, with the top 3 qualifiers, good little teams and underperforming teams will still give 100 % even after 5 matches because they will be hope for them.
  16. I meant new frontiers in the sense it was a country they never been before to. Not in the new continents/area context. Probably someone with a better english than me would have found a better term. I want to reiterate that I'm speaking only about SOG. I know that each race has it's own dynamics and history, and of course no one is denying that Australia, the US and England are wealthy and competent to deliver great games but It's clear to me than IOC prefered to go to new countries or back to english speaking countries rather than old european cities. I think we can all agree that in recent
  17. What is troubling me is how the IOC is going to couple their perpetual desire for new frontiers and their absolute love for english speaking countries with the fact they cannot stay far from Europe for too long for the SOG. After Paris hosted 1924, for almost a century, they systematically went for places where they never been, Seoul, Mexico, Moscow, Barcelona, Beijing, Tokyo, Montreal, Rome etc and the much beloved english speakers : Australia, the US and the UK. There is only two exceptions : Athens. {And I don't need to argue this is a special place for the IOC} and Munich when they alrea
  18. This race just became the chance of a lifetime for Kazachstan . They won't get another chance to get to the final round of an olympic vote for ages. They are very stupid if they don't follow Qatar's steps for the World cup and hire top advisers and famous faces to help with their bid.
  19. That terrible draw from UEFA did that horrible group with Switzerland and Greece and put France & England in such difficults groups. Italy & Portugal are in tough group too. That could results in dissapointing teams to represent Europe at the next WC:(
  20. I read an article in French by an estonian writer who is reporting secretly from Sochi. He spoke of many disasters and massive flood which halted the work for a long time apprently. I don't know the estonian newspaper but it was in the courrier international, a french magazine who collects the best or should i say informative articles from "serious" Newspapers.
  21. If they went to China and Russia, that won't affect them. But if they could make Erdogan go, that would make my day.
  22. Thank god we are getting rid of SVT ! The made draw and the fact they killed almost all the songs in national languages, the technical difficulties, the way they got the best show and draw possible for Norway & Denmark... Worst host ever and i have been following since 1998
  23. That's the only objection i have against Istanbul. That a win will help Erdogan to stay in power. Just get rid of the guy please Turkey.
  24. I always thought the IOC missed a big chance to promote smaller city when they didn't select Leipzig in the shortlist. It was never going to win anyway, but it would have been nice to see a bid from the german. It probably would have give people some ideas to smaller cities (and big ones) on how to produced a good, green and realistic bid in terms of Budget.
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