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  1. It looks like the relay through Tibet could be really interesting.

    "Soldiers and police guarding the slopes of Everest have been authorised to shoot any protester trying to prevent the Olympic torch reaching the summit.

    Chinese climbers aim to carry the flame to the top of the mountain - on the border of Nepal and Tibet - in the first few days of May. Other climbers have been banned.

    Guards have been ordered to stop any protest "using whatever means necessary, including use of weapons," says Nepal's Home Ministry spokesman Modraj Dotel.

    They will first try persuasion and arrests - but if all else fails they will have the option of opening fire.


    Meanwhile officials in Malaysia yesterday prepared a massive security cordon to protect the torch relay against anti-Chinese protests."


  2. No it's not.

    The IOC has never been keen on the global torch relay thing: debrief from Athens was that it was a logistics nightmare and a very costly event. It was a recommendation of the Athens 2004 Coordination Commission not to stage the torch relay on such a global scale in the future.

    To be honest, I don't thing the IOC foresaw the whole PR nightmare.

    BOCOG insisted on having a global torch relay.

    heh well if thats the case then the BOCOG have no one to blame but them selves its a shame though that it might hurt future relays

  3. FYI, I live in country in Asia with full access of info from both West and non-West countries (i.e. the other 2/3 of the populations in the world), and probably make judgement based on a fuller set of information than the one you had and the one you though was so free, unbiased and complete. I lived in a western coutnry for 10+ years and have seen how western media not to the point of frabricate, but report selectively, that do the same, if not more, damage to ordinary readers's perception.

    With the internet anybody here in America can get "west" and "non-west" news. I can do a Google news search and it will come back with articles from all over the world. So how can you say that you get a fuller set of information?

    I just did a Google search for "Olympic torch" and the articles that came up on the first page were

    1. Xinhua, China

    2. Tokyo, Japan (through International Herald Tribune, France)

    3. Bloomberg (USA)

    4. Bloomberg (USA)

    5. International Herald Tribune (France)

    6. Xinhua, China

    7. AP (USA)

    8. AFP (France)

    9. AFP (France)

    10. AP (USA)

    So I think that we can get almost any news source we want from any country we want.

  4. Tibetans are treated as second-class in China, Natives are treated better, its their own fault they are in poverty because they send all their money on alcohol and cigarettes and trying to support 13 kids. They refuse to be apart of Canadian society.

    Wow it sounds like every stereotype that I’ve ever heard for every minority in America I didn't know we exported bigoted stereotypes to Canada.

  5. Some problem countries for various reasons:

    China: Might be angry over there relay but who knows

    East Timor: Security might be tough

    Iran: Well America might have invaded by then but who knows

    Israel: Security reasons

    Myanmar: Well we know that’s a rough situation

    Nigeria: Could be a security risk

    Palestine: I doubt it would be stable enough and the Israelis might not like that

    Tibet: China probably won’t like that

  6. Red as a colour of choice by the Chinese predates the Communist era. Their (and the Japanese as well) culture reveres red as a lucky colour - the color of life. Go to the ritzier Chinese restaurants and you will notice the heavy tones of red; as well as those exquisite lacquer boxes.

    The fact that it was also the Socialists' choice of color worldwide just happened to be coincidental.

    See communism was meant for China!!!!

    But anyway I'm lazy I would not walk up several hundred stairs for anything. I hope that London will be smarter.

  7. Heard on Breakfast News today that Beijing are planning a second torch relay through London in August for the Paralympic Games!! :o

    They said it's likely to be much shorter, rely a lot more on busses and could even be confined to a stadium. But even so, it seems more than a little risky!

    Well if at first you don't succeed try, try again

  8. Well, any protest like this would require some degree of organisational skills and resources. That said, it's wrong to question the sincerity of their opinions. I'm sure a lot of the people there are proud, patriotic Chinese who are pissed off at what they see is their nation getting badly criticised. Fair enough!

    I know its more of a knee jerk of mine to question people's motives (especially when i don't particularly agree with them). And I must admit that I am more than a little jealous that they were able to whip people up on such short notice -_-

  9. If I am not mistaken, Taiwan has refused the torch.

    Their were protests in Argentina as well, just more controlled and peaceful. Human rights is a big issue in Argentina

    From what I've read about it, it was going to go through Taiwan but there were a few sticking points politically so it was taken out of the relay.

  10. So SJD- outside of any Olympic protest when is the last time you protested for Tibet independence?

    Oh never that is not an issue that concerns me (that sounds kind of bad but i'll go with it) i was just talking generally. I do more locally oriented things like Union organizing, and helping striking workers, and other more local things. I don't know how much I could really do for the Tibeten people.

  11. It's good that others are willing to offer their bones to be broken and their skulls bashed. ;)

    Is there anything that you would offer your bones over? I don't know it seems like real opportunities are rare for that the best known and most referenced that I’ve seen have been Gandhi and his cause in India, and the civil rights movement in America.

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