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  1. Has it been a year already? Seems just like yesterday I was watching the torch relay go through its final laps in the city....sigh.
  2. Oh man....what could have been if it weren't for the recession. False Creek and BC Place would have been amazing. And check out the Olympic rings atop Grouse in the second picture.
  3. ^ They said that the torchbearers at BC Place were only a minute away from running out of gas in their torches....scary indeed.
  4. Hey guys, so what's happening with the Bid Library?
  5. Sigh...cheap stiffs at VANOC shut it down. What can I say? ...they should've had made 2010 Legacies Now pay the bills for keeping the website online for at least until London...
  6. And so begins Vancouver 2010's journey towards being a forgotten memory...
  7. On the other hand, the City of Vancouver is spending $7-million on Vancouver's 125th anniversary celebrations in 2011. That's a lot of money. There's going to be a big party in early-April, and more events in the summer.
  8. Are you guys getting a new host? And when? Thx.
  9. It's unfortunate....but I do have to say that, the City of Vancouver did blow $10-million from its budget on the Olympic Live Sites alone.
  10. The City of Vancouver has its $2.8-billion Property Endowement Fund to fall back on so that taxpayers won't have to fall back on anything. The Olympic Village units could sell right now if they got rid of the much-publicized social housing (hard truth: nobody wants to live next to the poor and homeless) and if they slashed prices. Sorry, but the Canadian Taxpayers Federation is against everything and anything that has to do with taxpayers money. They should be known more as the "Do Nothing" Federation.
  11. I am, and as an EDUCATED taxpayer I know the costs were well worth the experience and the infrastructure legacy. 20-years from now, people will look fondly at these 2010 Olympics just like how we look fondly back at Expo '86 and how it has changed the city for the greater good.
  12. The Olympics don't "profit," and they never have. Life is much more than just about profits. Quit whining.
  13. I'm not justifying the G8/20 security expense, I'm telling it how it is. It depends on how you calculate security costs, and for that matter Canada calculates it differently and it contributes to why the figure is ifnlated. One big item that it does differently, that other countries like the United States and the UK do not do, is that Canada includes police and soldier wages into security costs - wages that would have been paid regardless - instead of just overtime.
  14. Expenses made by the City of Vancouver, Whistler, and Richmond are not Olympic expenses under VANOC's mandate...they are not its responsibilities. Olympic Security at $850-million: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=news&cd=1&ved=0CCEQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vancouversun.com%2Fnews%2FOlympic%2Bsecurity%2Bbill%2Btops%2F3977990%2Fstory.html&rct=j&q=vancouver%20olympic%20security&ei=NOEOTZaSOpH6sAONlcm9Cg&usg=AFQjCNHVSg5egYJAJ0WqWf0ZmvYGZUXlSA&cad=rja As for the comparison to the G8/20, apples and oranges. Protecting some the world's most powerful leaders costs quite a bit more....and they had Toronto in virtual lockdown, whereas it wasn't really the case in Vancouver. Finally, the real cost of the G8/20 security is $850-million - not $500-million.
  15. Security and the Olympic Village aren't VANOC's responsibilities. VANOC will be showing its financial report for its organizational responsibilities. And actually, security came under a billion at a little over $800-million.
  16. The problem at hand is that you simply don't understand the concept of the Opening as a "Landscape of a Dream," from the very beginning with a snowboarder riding down into the stadium to the formation of the Rocky Mountains. It's almost as if you completely ignored Donald Sutherland's narration. You're the type that clearly likes their big, bang, booms....the kind that hates romantic/slow non-action movies but loves Transformers or 2012. It was a purely artistic ceremony that required the appreciation of beauty.
  17. Sounds like they had planned a much more amazing Opening Ceremony. I can't help but think if it was the finale segment of the Opening Ceremony's cultural show that got cut out, which we all know consisted of a five-minute slam poet going off how great Canada was. That slam poetry could very well have been a last minute addition. It kind of makes sense now. I also wonder if the Closing Ceremony's roast speeches were also a replacement for a canceled performance segment with music by this Quebec composer.
  18. It's a big country with many various cultures: it would be impossible to represent everyone. What British Columbians might think defines Canada might be disagreed upon by people in Quebec and the Maritimes. What Albertans think defines Canada might be disagreed upon by other provinces. Etc. It's a unique country, it's more provincial than national. And they did tell the history of Canada, from east to the west, in another way. Not the traditional settler to modernity type of thing, but they did it in another way. Had they done what you're suggesting, we would've literally had a winter carbon copy of the Sydney 2000 Opening Ceremony. Anyhow, John Furlong tells off the language fascists....there are also some bombshell revelations about the Opening Ceremony: - Celine Dion had been contracted to sing the national anthem at the Opening Ceremony. But she cancelled when she became pregnant. - Vanoc had also specifically asked Cirque du Soleil, the Quebec troupe known for their spectacular airborne artistry, to provide some production elements. The company declined because it was overextended on several productions in the U.S. - Furlong said Vanoc had also engaged "a famous Quebec composer" to provide musical elements. That composer, whom he would not name, backed out of the arrangement months before the Games over what he termed "philosophical differences". As a result, the artist refused to allow Vanoc access to his music's rights and the organizing committee had to unwind part of the ceremony. Vanoc boss fires back over French language criticism By JEFF LEE, Vancouver Sun December 15, 2010 5:02 PM VANCOUVER -- The head of the Vancouver Organizing Committee for the 2010 Winter Games struck back Wednesday at criticism by the Official Languages Commissioner that the Games missed an opportunity to celebrate Canada's linguistic duality. John Furlong said his organization worked from top to bottom to make sure the organization of the Olympics and Paralympics included equal representation of both English and French. He said Graham Fraser's receipt of complaints about a perceived lack of French language in the opening ceremony pales to the overwhelming support Vanoc received from the public at large. "I understand that Mr. Fraser said he had had 38 complaints. Well, to be honest, I have 10,000 letters of thanks and congratulations for the way we delivered the Olympic Games and a lot of it had to do with this very thing (the opening ceremony), " Furlong said. On Tuesday Fraser issued his final report into French language inclusion in the Games, saying portions of the event suffered from "linguistic shortfalls." Furlong said he was unhappy that Fraser didn't bother to alert him in advance this week when releasing his report. "I wasn't expecting the report. I'm responsible for the Olympics. He never made a call to me, he didn't tell me what his findings were," Furlong said. "So when I read that he says we didn't understand what our mandate was, I am sorry, that just is not reasonable." In an interview from Ottawa Fraser said later that Furlong was well aware of his concerns about the lack of French in the opening ceremony and that his report simply repeated those concerns. He also noted that he received no acknowledgment from Furlong to a hand-written note he sent in October, 2009 complaining that not a word of French was spoken at the ceremony marking the arrival of the Olympic Flame in Victoria. ("ANY FRENCH SPEAKERS IN THE CROWD? RAISE YOUR HAND!) Fraser said he eventually concluded that Vanoc saw the Official Language Commissioner's office as being troublesome. (it most certainly is!) "We felt our studies were being viewed not as helpful but as an irritation," the commissioner said. Fraser said he commended Vanoc for exceeding expectations in all other areas. But the lack of enough French language in the opening ceremony "cast a shadow" over the rest of the organization's efforts. Furlong said Vanoc fully respected the country's bilingual character and that the opening ceremony included a high proportion of images celebrating Canada's French heritage. "We never saw it so much in terms of expressing ourselves so much in words, but it was the celebration of the duality of Canada, which was culture, art, performers, music. It was exactly how we put the program together. It shouldn't be lost on anybody that the first province we signed up as a partner was Quebec," he said. "To hook out one piece and say that piece wasn't good enough is like saying the first quarter of the hockey game wasn't all that good even though we won in overtime." In the end, Furlong said he thought Fraser's office "cherry-picked" elements and was simply "counting words" rather than looking at Vanoc's complete inclusion of French Canada in its operations. Furlong also revealed Vanoc had planned to include even more French-Canadian elements but ran into trouble. Celine Dion had been contracted to sing the national anthem but cancelled after she became pregnant. Vanoc had also specifically asked Cirque du Soleil, the Quebec troupe known for their spectacular airborne artistry, to provide some production elements. The company declined because it was overextended on several productions in the U.S. Furlong said Vanoc had also engaged "a famous Quebec composer" to provide musical elements. That composer, whom he would not name, backed out of the arrangement months before the Games over what he termed "philosophical differences". As a result, the artist refused to allow Vanoc access to his music's rights and the organizing committee had to unwind part of the ceremony. "We are required under the way the music is assembled once you've got the show together you have to get permission. If he didn't want his music included, that was his decision and we had to move on," Furlong said. jefflee@vancouversun.com Twitter.com/sunciviclee Blog: www.vancouversun.com/jefflee © Copyright © The Vancouver Sun Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Vanoc+boss+fires+back+over+French+language+criticism/3983885/story.html#ixzz18Egaxkgj
  19. Considering the economic climate, they will probably simply balance the books. The financial report will be released within a week.
  20. That's what you would think, but highly unlikely. Quebeckers are hostile to any "Anglo" language and presence as is. Just about the only ones who care about bilingualism in English Canada are French-Canadians. Talk to them about bilingualism in Quebec, though, and they start singing a different tune out of the other side of their face. And no, there shouldn't have been more. It was just right. The economics and actual reality need to be considered: many, many more people speak Cantonese, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, Punjabi, and other languages than French. The West Coast of Canada is very multilingual, and French is a tiny portion of that. The report also states that there were too few French-speaking volunteers at the venues. Reality check: something like only 4% of British Columbians speak French. What do you expect? Far too much money has been spent on promoting bilingualism in this country, billions and billions are wasted each year on having bilingualism in regions that have a very tiny French speaking populace. Once again Ottawa demonstrates it's irrelevance to the West Coast. We're tired of the same old 17th century English / French debate at a time when Mandarin might well become the 2nd language of the West Coast. It's about time that the "word counters" in Ottawa take time and listen to British Columbia....and if Quebec could also contribute it share for Confederation, that would also be quite ideal. And no, if the narration at the Opening Ceremony was also in French it would have been choppy as hell. It would have been far too long, and it would have broken much of the artistic flow of the entire ceremony.
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