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  1. We expect at least the appearance of integrity. Obviously, quite a number of ISU officials and judges have no shame.
  2. Very bummed that the USA had the Gold medal in hand and tossed it away in the last few minutes of regulation time.
  3. Not surprisingly, the figure skating website forums are exploding. Except for a few scattered, bold Russians (most of whom seem to be laying low), nearly everybody else thinks the ladies' competition was a travesty, and that it was apparent in the short program that Russian skaters were being favorably for the long program. Also that Yuna Kim seemed to come to Sochi knowing that she could not win in Russia. ...being favorably positioned for the long program.
  4. I have heard that Katarina Witt (commentating for German TV) was outraged. Perhaps one of our German GB'ers could provide a synopsis of her thoughts?
  5. People will have to look at the protocols in depth to see the amount of +GOE overscoring, but there is no way that Adelina and Lipnitskaia should be receiving the sorts of component scores they have been getting. Lipnitskaia with higher component scores than Mao Asada?! Um....just, no. There has been overscoring of these Russians all season, but it's rocked up just since Europeans. The order of finish as I believe it should have been: 1-Kim 2-Kostner 3-Sotnikova 4- Gold 5-Asada 6-Lipnit 7-Wagner I don't have an issue with the placements of the US ladies, but comparatively speaking, their components were held down in the markings.
  6. I know there's been a lot of crap flying around about DW's dance win over VM (unwarranted; in my view, DW won fair and square). But if you want to see what rigged judging looks like, especially shenanigans with component scores, watch the ladies' competition. Ridiculous and maddening.
  7. I've found myself increasingly tuning out of NBC Sochi primetime as the days go on. The poor judgment and callousness shown during the pursuit of most of the "human interest" stories have me clicking my remote button to some other non-sports program whenever they come on. Then when some actual sports events are going on that I didn't catch earlier on NBCSN or other source, I tune back in for the segment. RE: Figure skating on NBCSN. Terry Gannon is always a keeper, Johnny Weir's a keeper (and yes I love to see what he's wearing each day!). I am not sold on Tara Lipinski--I don't think she adds to the technical analysis like Weir does (not surprising, she didn't skate under COP system) but there's a tendency to too many inane comments or reminisces about herself during programs. She's the one with the snark; Johnny is actually very respectful even when he's making criticisms of specific programs. One big thing: neither Weir or Lipinski are knowledgeable enough about ice dancing to do meaningful commentary--NBC needs to augment future teams on live coverage with an ice dancer from the not-too-distant past.
  8. Actually, no. Most skaters prefer to skate second after the warm-up, so you can catch your breath and get your head together but your legs haven't started to cool down yet. Kostner's got the best draw with Sotnikova next best. Skating last can be a real beeeeyitch, but Kim is used to it and she's a very consistent pro so for her, it probably doesn't matter where she draws. For audience excitement purposes, obviously a good thing to have Kim skate last.
  9. Believe you me, I'm praying for Bob's eyes to make a speedy recovery.
  10. Yeah I'm getting the same impression. Lots of space outside, not enough people there to fill it up. Even at the indoor venues there seem to be plenty of empty seats (though I'll admit we have yet to see some of the bigger-drawing events). Did any other GB'ers go to Sochi besides Puppy?
  11. Actually, the US is not obsessed with figure skating, that's part of the problem. It now has a fairly narrow fan base. I'm a former skater, so sorry you don't get the appeal, your loss, but then, I'm not a fan of curling or nordic combined either. Horses for courses. If you want to see true obsession with FS, try Japan. The USFSA is a big federation but it is not as powerful as a lot of people believe at least w/respect to the ISU. In politicking it pales in comparison to Russian, Canadian, and Japanese federations. As for decline of FS in the USA, I think there are a lot of reasons for that--mostly due to factors outside the sport's or federation's control though USFS' ability to deal with a changing world has been rather inept. Historically, it's the 1990's and early 2000's seem to be the aberration, and right now it's back to being a niche sport more similar to the 1970's and 80's. As for coverage, I'm enjoying NBCSN's live coverage and prefer it to prime time---with respect to figure skating, I prefer seeing the entire field of competitors AND the commentators are better (Gannon, Weir in particular). I'm not a fan of the tired old duo of Bezic and Hamilton + NBC Talking Head. I'm also preferring NBCSN's coverage of other sports vs prime time. Feeling lucky that this Olympics I'm in a position to be able to access it.
  12. Not a lot of difference in August, island or not. Tokyo certainly wouldn't be any worse temperature and humidity-wise than Atlanta 1996.
  13. Oh it will be completely different. The Japanese and the Chinese have little in common in mindset, perspective, and thinking processes. Nothing against the great cities of Madrid and Istanbul, but I'm delighted that Tokyo won this bid.
  14. They were part of a "cun" = village. That area was (and still is) known as "yayuncun" which = yayun village. This was a rural village area surrounded by fields up until mid/late 1990's-ish. The city grew outward towards many of these kinds of villages, and swallowed them. They are almost all fairly tumbledown, unsanitary, and not historic. Most of these village structures were only a few decades old at most. I first lived in Beijing in 1987, and in those days there were no ring roads, and beyond what is now the 3rd ring road, there were mostly just agricultural fields and simple villages. Including what was removed for the Olympic Green preparation. At the risk of sounding pedantic, A "hutong" is literally (translated) a street, but in north China also refers to a particular urban neighborhood construct--not a rural village. The vast majority of Beijing's hutong (most of which are Ming and a few Qing era) are inside the 2nd ring road which roughly marks the boundary where the old city walls used to be. Most of the true Beijing hutong have historical value either great or small. But they weren't in the line of fire for any infrastructure or facilities developed for the Olympics. Point #1 is, you can't go around labelling every old group of shacks in China as hutongs. Point #2 is, Or blame the Olympics as the reason for all events in Beijing 2001-2008.
  15. You are making a very common mistake in attributing a lot of the infrastructure to the 2008 Olympics. You are wrong and let's correct it before you spread more misinformation. Most of the infrastructure improvements (and that includes airport, road/highway work, and subway additions) were in the works LONG BEFORE the Olympics were awarded to Beijing. The awarding of the Olympics just speeded up the timetable and compressed some of the 15-year and 20-year plans down into half that time frame or less. As for the hutongs being destroyed due to the Olympic infrastructure, that is a crock and you clearly do not know what you are talking about. 1) Most of the new facilities and infrastructure that had to be built specifically for the Olympics were not in hutong areas. There were some outskirt villages esp in the Olympic Green area that had to go, but these places were absolutely squalid and falling apart (think dissolving mudbrick with tin roofs--sort of Beijing version favelas but with less crime), weren't historic, and within a few years were going to have to be addressed anyway. 2) Most of the hutongs that have been demolished have been for commercial and residential building development not infrastructure. This is not related to the Olympics coming to town, but has to do land rights/usage in China. The true hutongs of historic value that have been affected (and shouldn't have been touched), went due to corruption and collusion at high levels between govt officials and real estate tycoons. If there were never any Beijing Olympics, the end result would likely have still been exactly the same.
  16. Yes, is the point of view that the athletes Won the Silver vs. Lost the Gold? I guess to some extent, it depends on the specific performance. If an athlete went all out and did their personal best to the maximum of their capabilities, and the medal came up Silver, what's not to like?
  17. I could look at the pics and at a glance, tell they were not "staff quarters" but were meant for foreigners. True staff quarters in India would not have had bathrooms built with western toilets and grab bars. Just wouldn't happen. The sink basins and fittings aren't right for the local market. And no staff quarters would have beds that big, they'd be twin sized. So I think the "Liar Liar Pants on Fire" label is quite fair.
  18. You can slap a new "brand" on a person but you can't change their fundamental internal wiring. Also, it's not fair to only call out the North American or even the general western press on this tendency to focus on their immigrant-hood, or origin; it also happens in Asian media. It's not as common because there are fewer immigrants into mostly homogenous societies, but it will be the first thing called to attention when a foreign immigrant becomes (in)famous.
  19. The Baron is correct. I'm not even ethnically Chinese. And goodness' knows, I'm no cheerleader for the Beijing regime and never have been--didn't even think Beijing should have been awarded the Olympics, but then the IOC didn't ask for my opinion. I think Eusebius above is right as to the checklist of what's needed for India to put a serious bid together. But I stand by my previous comments--ain't gonna happen in the next 100 years. The crux of the issue, especially if you want to compare Developing China with Developing India, comes down to fundamental cultural differences and has nothing to do with how many people are joining the middle class. It is simply this: when the chips are down and the will to accomplish something big is there, the Chinese have a culture of moving heaven and earth to make it happen, whatever it takes and that includes rolling over and squashing obstacles (sometimes literally). Situation with Indians is completely different. Anyone who's tried to herd cats will get the idea.
  20. This entire Commonwealth Games is shaping up to be a complete train wreck. Some of these stories of the pre-Games prep and what's going on now are so that you couldn't possibly dream them up if you were trying to write a sports novel. Say whatever you want about India, at least you won't ever be bored. I'm off to find more info on whether the swimmers got Delhi belly from the pool water or from overindulging in the local curries...
  21. I don't know about Athens. But in Beijing, the track was always there, underneath. Once the Bird's Nest track and field was tested at events in April and May of 2008, the entire area was covered and protected while they finished doing the special infield construction area for the OC mechanics--that was planned so it didn't affect the track area itself. And it stayed protected when they were doing the dress rehearsals for the OC in July and 1st week of August inside the Stadium. After the OC on August 8, starting as soon as the Stadium was emptied, they worked around the clock for the next 6 days uncovering and resetting the infield, until everything was ready for competition. Athletic competition in the Birds Nest did not begin until August 15.
  22. I don't see any situation in the next 100 years where any location in India could successfully host a SOG. In fact, when I saw this poll, it took 10 minutes before I could stop laughing enough to write.
  23. Yep, for a city like Guangzhou, they can pull off something like the Asian Games standing on their heads with eyes closed. They have lots of experience with accommodating and moving huge crowds, and they do it annually--Canton Trade Fair(s), the Guangzhou Railway Station the week before Chinese New Year, etc. Biggest issue there for (outdoor) sports events is probably the horrific air pollution in the Pearl River Delta...which makes Beijing's look pretty mild.
  24. Forgot to mention, an Australian couple (Danielle O'Brien and Greg Merriman) did an Australian Aboriginal Original Dance at Worlds a couple of years ago. It was concocted after serious discussion and preparation with Aboriginal leaders. It is miles above what D/S put out there.
  25. Not an accurate comparison. The Duchesnay's dance "Savage Rites" was a Free Dance, not an OD Original Dance (or back then, an OSP Original Set Pattern). There were no rules or limitations, and it was not representative of any particular culture. Sidebar facts: that dance was developed by Christopher Dean for them, and it wasn't particularly well received by the judges at the time. This year, the OD, according to the rules, must be representative of a specific country or region. Count me in the group that found the dance idiotic to the point of offensiveness, both to the peoples being "portrayed" and also to the quality of the dance composition and execution.
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