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  1. 3 hours ago, BTHarner said:

    Except that it might be a signal of the IOCs intentions should anybody boycott Beijing. 

    North Korea didn't attended Tokyo because COVID pandemic has caused China to divert the funds they usually give to NK into themselves to solve their own issues with the virus, so they're going through a very harsh crisis, their worse since the 90s famines (after the USSR kicked the bucket and Soviet help ended) and Kim Jong Un has decided to isolate people even more, the punishment to be exposed to even the tiniest drop of "Evil, degenerate Western influence" can also include death. Of course, their athletes are not exempt from this, so it wasn't really a political boycott. And to be honest, NK would had probably skipped Beijing 2022 as well for the same reasons.

  2. Despite everything which happened, Tokyo proved that under the current circunstances, its still possible to perform these events. While I get sad sometimes thinking about what could had been if Covid didn't happened, the effort put by the entire country was very moving. Maybe Japan won't look back at this event with lots of nostalgia, but at least they avoided a bigger disaster which would had been its complete cancellation.

    Also, the Paralympics ceremonies while still being very simple were x1000 better than the mess which were the Olympic ones because of the reasons we already know and we don't need to mention again. Sadly, this was a textbook of How Not to Organize your Olympic Ceremonies (Japan seems to be cursed as hell when it comes for sport ceremonies tbh, most of them sucking).

    Anyway, Rendezvous a Paris 2024.

  3. 10 hours ago, stryker said:

    I actually think the only reason he stayed on as long as he did was to keep the Olympics from being cancelled.  

    Yes, but he was also the "Hey, lets do vaccine domestic trials and don't trust the ones already existing, what could possibly go wrong?" guy which caused a laughable vaccination rate for a first world country like Japan. His decisions condemned the games to not have any spectators at all.

  4. On 8/27/2021 at 2:30 PM, PikyoK said:

    Looks like Wally and Mikiko have similar tastes.

    I may sound stubborn but I really hope the petition gets to 100 and a recreation of Mikiko's plans actually comes to fruition as a future festival (maybe a 1 year anniversary of the Tokyo Olympics).

    As much as I wished this to had been reality, I think its time to let it go. Japan will have another chance in the future, but i think its time to focus ceremonies wise in Beijing and Paris. What's done is done.

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  5. Just a small reminder Tokyo 2020 ceremonies weren't the only ones which suffered resignations from its staff. Four years ago I talked about how the original art director of the PC 2018 ceremonies resigned due to creative differences with the director (the later was considered much more experienced than the director himself). There is more info about it here

    http://news.sbs.co.kr/news/endPage.do?news_id=N1003757002

    Jung Gu-Ho,  (정구호 , art director) was very liked by korean netizens and some in 2017 thought the PC ceremonies were completely doomed. Fortunately, the worst was avoided and they could make a decent show.

     

  6. On 8/17/2021 at 11:16 PM, iceman530 said:

    "restrictions are expected to be lifted before the end of 2022", well, there ya have it.  As I said.  Bygones are bygones.  Russia and the IOC put on their dog and pony show to show Russia got punished.  Russia bids for 2036 will be fair game.  All aboard for St Petersburg I suppose

    The IOC realized the ban they did was a meme and Russians gave zero f**s about it, celebrating and cheering for their athletes anyway despite not being able to use the Russian flag. They consider "annoying the Globohomo west" a token of honor now, much like all of the anti-western nations do these days. Russia should had been banned alltogether but we all know how greedy the IOC is anyway. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Russia gets it, specially now that few if any wants the Olympics anymore.

  7. I actually was going to drop/ignore this opening after the catastrophe which were the Olympic ones, but after seeing the rehearsals it seems this show is going to mop the floor with the Olympics ceremonies. It still looks simple and with heavy use of projections but at least it seems to be a much coherent show with a common theme connecting it which the Olympic one didn't as a result of all the controversies/changes in the ceremonies team.

  8. Emperor Naruhito will be present for the opening of the Paralympics.

    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/832d720d2262c2069cc2ecf28448915dc6bbfc49

    Also....because of the shitshow which happened after the names of the staff involved in the Olympics ceremonies were revealed when a couple of them got Cancelled, the Paralympics organizing comittee decided to refrain from announcing the production team members of the Paralympics opening. :lol: Seems they wanna avoid the same mess to repeat again.

    https://www.nikkansports.com/olympic/tokyo2020/paralympic/news/202108190000702.html

  9. Ah yes, the Stockholm 2004 bid which, much like with the 2026 one, no one in Sweden wanted. They went to the extreme of literally bombing both the Olympic Stadium and Ullevi Stadium (Gotheburg) as a sign of protest and to also scare people from voting Stockholm in 1997.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/25/world/another-blast-in-sweden-during-bid-for-olympics.html

    On 8/13/2021 at 10:23 PM, Brekkie Boy said:

    To be honest though I've just got one question - what were their plans for the main Olympic Stadium?   With the 1912 stadium only holding around 15,000 that couldn't have been the main value, and I suspect it's historic nature meant knocking it down and replacing it would not have been considered.   I'm guessing any plans may have evolved into what became the Friends Arena, which opened in 2009.

    They wanted to build a whole new stadium. Half of the tribunes would be temporary, though, since a permanent 70.000 spectators stadium for Stockholm was ridiculous. There is more info about the project here.

    https://www.oma.com/projects/stockholm-olympic-stadium

  10. Fun fact, that interpretation of the Italian anthem during the handover was very controversial in Italy back in the day with politicians who thought it was too much of a free adaptation of Fratelli D'Italia (the song was also used briefly during the transmissions of 2002 World Cup but due to controversy it was retired from RAI). I frankly don't see anything wrong with it. :P

    In a similar way to Tokyo handover, but not as bad, I had lots of expectations for Torino ceremonies because of their handover. I don't dislike their ceremonies as much as I did back then but I still don't think they were my favorites from the 2000s (then again it was the decade of Athens and Beijing which are still unsurpassable ceremonies for myself).

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  11. On 8/8/2021 at 11:25 AM, Olympian2005 said:

    Tokyo could have done at least something like this. more about lights, technology and spectacle rather than risky mass performance.

    The more i think about it the more i think Tokyo were just lazy, using COVID as the ultimate excuse and even without COVID ever happening i wonder if the ceremonies would still have been below par. The Rugby cup ceremony goes to show how bad this was always destined to be.

    They wanted it to be a big show. Well, at least Mikiko wanted to. But she couldn't stand the toxic environment and Japan obsession with respect to elders who still think their ways work in 2021. Thus, she resigned, the whole ceremony team fell like a house cards and the disaster which we all know happened.

    https://aramajapan.com/news/tokyo-2020-opening-ceremony-original-plan-leaks-in-full/114631/

  12. 1 hour ago, BigVic said:

    Ceremonies were scaled-back due to COVID.

     

    Vancouver hired David Atkins Enterprises who are an Australian company to do their ceremonies instead of local Canadian talent. London went with Danny Boyle 

    David Atkins produced the show but all of the performers were canadian and i'm pretty sure Atkins also brought in some talents to be in charge of aspects of the ceremonies.

    Ironically, Australia used a british production company for both 2006 and 2018 CWG (Jack Morton) and I remember the Gold Coast decision was heavily criticized back then though in the end they're producers who are still using native talent to create a show.

  13. 10 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

    Thanks for posting that, Yoshi.  Three thoughts:

    1.  It sounds very much like the story of Kristi Alveberg for Lillehammer 1994.  She also had a nervous breakdown when other forces with the OCOG started tinkering with her original ideas and tried to ease her out.  I interviewed her for my book.

    2.  Sad to say, I worked for the Manila office of Dentsu briefly back in the 1970s -- but it was a small one then and had no Japanese execs nor did it do Special Eventing.  It was strictly advertising in the traditional sense.  

    3.  I wonder how reliable that Reddit story is?  

    I think its reliable enough. For a lot of weeks i've seen people in japanese social media talking about how Dentsu ruined the opening ceremony and how they're also the most despised company in Japan at the moment due to many of their shady actions. The reddit user did their homework pretty well, but a lot of weebs are still in damage control and blaming this mess at the IOC and the pandemic.

  14. All this catastrophe regarding the organization of the opening ceremony just highlights heavily everything which is wrong with Japan right now and why they have fallen behind in the innovative area compared to their neighbours China and Korea. Too sad that the young innovative people are always trampled by a bunch of boomers because of muh respect to the eldery (Japan only has one Unicorn city, in fact (a term used for the most innovative cities ) which is Fukuoka, coincidentally the city with the largest number of younger people in the country. Embarassing for a nation which many have promoted to be a hub of innovation).

    Like I said before, Japan really can't into opening/closing ceremonies. Next time they host an Olympics I know i'll do best to sleep well that day and don't bother to wake up to watch it.

    PS: I see the only things they kept from the original plan in the end were the Drones (though heavily watered down) and the cauldron (only the sphere/flower part of it though).

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