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  1. Given that John Coates is not an IOC VP (nor a member of the EB) since 2017 and that he is not on either of the two Future Hosts Commissions, it is safe to assume he is just speaking as a bid leader.
  2. It is a temporary emblem... like every single host city does once it is elected until the final emblem is launched. As for the Paralympic one, it is the first time than an OCOG develop a temporary Paralympic emblem. so yeah Dull but innovative as well. I suspect a final emblem will be launched in the lead up to Tokyo.
  3. No it is not. There are two different topics when it comes to the Coliseum: the planned rennovation by USC (irrespective of the Games) for which a budget of $300 million is foreseen -> this is not included in the bid as -just for like the other venues to be built as well as the expension of UCLA accommodation or the construction of the IBC- it is not bid dependant and therefore not included in the $5.3 billion budget the temporary installation of an athletics track, for about $100 million that is included in the budget.
  4. I fully agree. I don't think LA has done anything that would be considered as cheating as they have done what a lot of companies around the world are doing: generating a lot of followers by putting adds in market with low concurrence. And that's the first point: there is nothing new or innovative about that. Secondly, as Rob pointed out, it is one thing to get some followers, quite another one to get them engaged in your project. For such a large fan base, the amount of activation (be it people liking, sharing or commenting on post) is rather low. I have no doubt LA can do it but so
  5. Now it is not only French Media anymore: https://apnews.com/951c7857f44c4d218723cf08ca7ce931/LA-Olympics-campaign-gets-lots-of-likes-_-from-Pakistan
  6. IF basically LA is the only Olympic Agenda 2020 compatible city, I fail to understand how a LA 2024 Games will ensure the sustainability of the Olympic Movement: which ciy, besides LA, has everything (but 25% of the Olympic Village, the stadium for the Opening Ceremony, the IBC) built and ready?
  7. The land over which Paris 2024 Village would be built has been identified as a high value piece for housing development in the Seine St-Denis Department: it is to become a central public transport hub in the scope of the new Paris Express Metro and the Local Housing Plan of Plaine Commune (where the village will be located) fixes an objective of 4,200 new housing units a year for the 2026-2021 period alone. Therefore, should Paris not be awarded 2024, the development plan will keep going on and the land won't be availble for 2028, just like the land that had been identified for the Olympi
  8. I have absolutely prentented none of these, nor have I questioned the fact that NBC and LA 2024 can deliver the IBC. I merely pointed out that claiming that, when it comes to the specific point of the IBC, Paris is more risky than LA is just not accurate. And before you point out that some areas in Paris are risky: yes Paris plan to build a new Olympic Village carries a more significant risk than LA plans where UCLA only needs to increase its housing capacity by 25% to be ready to host the athletes and officials.
  9. Could you clarify how is the IBC less risky in LA than in Paris? Paris proposes an existing exhibition centre with one hall to be rebuilt (as part of a planned expension project, privately funded) while LA proposes a new IBC (4 new halls to be built as part of planned expension of Universal Studios + 1 temporary hall to be built by LAOCOG).
  10. Here are a few information regarding existing and planned public transport in Paris and the Greater Paris' area: Public transport network in Paris region "Grand Paris Express" : the new Paris transport infrastructure supporting Paris long-term urban develoment plans A few highlights: The existing public transport system currently transports 8.5 millions people a day All competition venues within Paris region are served by public transport with: the "Paris Centre Zone", home to 12 competition venues, the Olympic Family hotel, 2 live sites, is served by 13
  11. Discover "Le Grand Paris", a city on the move : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79ftfoWHIlw
  12. Anyone who has been in the bidding process (irrespective of the business) knows that it is a competitive one and that benchmarking one self against the competition is part of bidding 1-0-1. I admit that Paris would have been smarter to inform LA 2024 of its visit, which would have avoided the whole drama but It is indeed due diligence and it is not against the rules neither in spirit nor formally. And make no mistake, all candidates will visit each other... Some in smarter ways than others... As for the IBC, Paris one is already existing compared to the one in LA that is still to be built:
  13. Had you read Paris candidature file, you would have known that Paris included from the start in its plans the entrepreneurship, innovation and creativity.... As for the colors, they are part of Paris 2024 visual identity... Unveiled before LA 24 launched its logo and tag line.
  14. There is a last football game this week or next week at Maracanna so I think this is most likely a picture of a concert set up (there seems to be a stage on the right).
  15. Here is what Optimouv is doing (sorry it is only in French but with the infographics, one should get the idea) : https://www.facebook.com/199414186798337/videos/968870643186017/ How is that similar to the system for LA 84?
  16. Optimouv has nothing to do with an automated traffic surveillance and control system... Optimouv is a system designed to miminimize the transport impact of a sport event: based on a set of parameters such as competition format, potential venues, forecasted attendance, point of origin of the competitors... the system evaluates various scenarios to help design the concept (choice of venues) and competition schedule that will minimize the transport impact of the event.
  17. It is the Future Arena (next to the Carioca Arenas) that will be dismantled and converted into equipment for schools after the Games.
  18. According to IOC website: TO FOLLOW THE GAMES: To follow the action live and on VOD: There will be live online coverage of Nanjing 2014 as well as 480 hours of VOD. This can be viewed on several platforms, including www.Olympic.org, www.Olympic.tv,www.youtube.com/Olympics and via the Olympic TV App, and in China with CNTV and CCTV apps. For the latest updates on the Games, press releases, photo and video postings and media logistics information, please follow us on twitter at www.twitter.com/iocmedia. For all other content follow: Twitter.com/youtholympics Facebook.com/youtholympicgames
  19. It is obvious that the topic of benefits of hosting the Games is a complex one and the topic of "ROI of hosting the Games" is one of the most debated by academics. For every study showing some positive impact resulting from hosting the Games, you will find at least two showing that it is not the case and that money could have been better spent otherwise. Several factors explain this challenge in objectively assessing the impact of hosting the Games: As has already pointed out, there is not one single model to assess impact of the Games: each host city is seeking each own specific objectives
  20. You are confusing stating facts and defending the IOC. Golf was added at the same Session as the one where Rio was elected. All four 2016 bid cities were consulted during the bid process about the possibility for them to host Rugby and Golf all agreed proposing to use existing venues. Rio's mayor chose to build a new golf course for the Games as he wanted to have a public golf course as a legacy for Rio's population rather than the private one already existing. I am not defending the IOC as indeed they have a lot of things to fix. For example why they didn't address the Norwegian requests is
  21. The thing is... IOC, like all Olympic Clients except people staying at the Olympic Village, is paying its own accommodation bill. No sport can be added later than 7 years prior to the Games. Discipline events can be added up to 3 years to the Games but in consultation with OCOG and with potential financial compensation IOC does encourage use of temporary venues when no legacy needs are identified.
  22. Well, back when Athens was bidding, in 1996/97, Athens had a sport precinct (OAKA was already existing) and more than decent sport organisation experience including: Mediterranean Games in Athens in 1991 IAAF World Championships in Athens in 1997 European Championships (1987) World Junior Championships (1995) in Basketball Track World Cup in cycling in 1995 in 1996 Fencing World Championship in 1994 European Artistic Gymnastics Championships in 1990 and World Rythmic Gymnastics Championships in 1991 European Judo Championships in 1993 European Championships in Swimming in 1991 and World Cup i
  23. LA proposes what at first sight will be a quite attractive proposal for 2024 (especially if they manage to guarantee the transportation time that they do). http://www.sccog.org/webapp/images/stories/2024/2024.pdf
  24. If anything this article proves that the IOC has a great deal of communication / education effort to do as it proves that the Norwegian parliament (and indeed a very large number of people of this forum) have no idea about the IOC requirements for the Games. Accommodation: IOC, as well as all other client groups -except athletes and team officials accommodated in the Olympic Village-, pay for their accommodation. What the IOC requests is a guaranteed room rate. No new sport can be added after Games - 7 years (i.e. at the same time of the host city election). Events can be added in the lead up
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