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  1. Compared to London's, Rio's typface is very hard to read. So I imagine it won't be used as extensively as London's which is used in a lot of different applications and used to spell out more than just "London 2012."
  2. Why didn't they place it at the other end of the stadium where the Tor was? Is there no gap there between the stands? The flame always looks nice behind the Athletics starting line, but you won't be able to see it where it is now. And on top of being rather small already, it's diminished a bit by being so close to the elevated media platform to its left in that picture. Oh well, London.
  3. I think they said 60,000 during the opening ceremony. So probably a bit more during Athletics.
  4. In hindsight, the ideas thrown around of London building a large tower, having multiple cauldrons, or whatever else was suggested before the 27th seem really unrealistic now. Clearly, London's budget was tight. Very tight. Tight enough to force them into the corner of only being able to build a small cauldron. Coupled with a very closed stadium roof structure and they were stuck with a small cauldron than can't be placed in a position visible from both the inside and the outside of the stadium. So they had to choose and they chose the inside probably simply because that's where the ceremony takes place. All very unfortunate, but in retrospect, not the most surprising move from London.n
  5. That's a fair point. This cauldron situation is clearly another fruit of London's cost-cutting consciousness. And while it's admirable that organizers have tried to keep the cost of these Games down across the board, this is one area of the Games' delivery that I think ended up being compromised because of that.
  6. But the IOC isn't one all-knowing entity. It's made up of over 100 different people. I'm sure there were plenty of individual IOC members who weren't informed about the cauldron plans and would of objected if they knew about this cauldron set-up in advance. Unless of course the same members responsible for reviewing ceremony plans beforehand are the ones complaining now. But are they?
  7. Am I missing something? It didn't seem like there was a "global cauldron race" until London claimed that they didn't want to be part of it. Sydney's and Salt Lake's weren't very big. Good size if you ask me. Athens' made a lot sense in its stadium as it was designed by the roof's architect. Very harmonious. Torino's had to be so tall in order to be seen from inside and outside a stadium that closed throughout those Games except for the ceremonies. Beijing's was big... but that was Beijing. And it actually didn't seem that big from outside the Bird's Nest. Vancouver needed a second cauldron outside enclosed BC place to avoid exactly what London is going through right now. And I don't think that design was particularly excessive or unnecessarily big. Good size to be a photo backdrop. Of course cauldrons in general have definitely become bigger and more show-y since decades ago, but so have the Games at large.
  8. Haha that made me laugh. Though I would say Athens showed up Sydney first with its big bowing cauldron.
  9. I imagine on the ground level. On the stage it would get in the way of spectators. But surely the heat might be too much for peopel above it even if its not directly in front of them? I suppose they have everything figured out though. We'll see.
  10. As a piece of attrative design, this cauldron really only works from its dead-center looking bottom-up. So that's to say that it dosen't work. From every other angle, it looks like a bunch of tightly packed trees in the winter whose tops are on fire.
  11. As far as cauldron designs go, I would put this one under "ok". Not as terrible as Torino's, but not as fantastic as Salt Lake's. I do think it would've looked wonderful in a high, prominent position "blossoming" and retracting throughout the Games. Too bad that's not going to happen. And the flame itself is awkwardly shaped on top of it and does burn very elegant like say Sydney's did. The lighting itself lacked drama and monumentality. In this department, Sydney and Barcelona can breath easy for another two years.
  12. Shoutout to everyone who screamed, "ticket = cauldron!" You guys were right, etc. It's a nice cauldron. Looked stunning from underneath when it was coming together. But the actual lighting was underwhelming. I mean, 5 "pedals" are lit and suddenly the other 199 are ignited as well? How does that work?
  13. Has it been mentioned here that the choice of the final torchbearer was "a unanimous decision?" Reported by a correspondent on NBC Nightly News...
  14. Apparently NBC's Meredith Viera saw the lighting rehearsal and says that, "if they pull it off, it will go viral within minutes. It's fantastic." Hype hype hype!
  15. I couldn't hold my nerve and had to come back in here. So it looks like it is indeed inside the stadium somewhere and will stay there? Well, I'll be honest and say it's hard for me to imagine a truly spectacular lighting for a cauldron that'll remain inside or even a cauldron design that somehow aesthetically makes sense inside the stadium. Seoul's was simple and classically shaped so it worked. Heatherwick's will probably be very sculptural and conceptual... Will that look good right in the middle of an 'athletics' environment? Regardless, this is still very intriguing. Less than 24 hours now!
  16. Haven't read the last two pages of this thread now that we got some concrete news. So bye, everyone! Enjoy!
  17. Looking back at the Beijing cauldron thread, someone posted images of that cauldron being tested in the early morning hours of August 5th. That Ceremony was of course three days later on the 8th........ *Correction. It was the 6th, Beijing time. You can see that thread here:
  18. Someone should keep an eye on that webcam from now till Friday night. Surely they'll test the cauldron at some point before then and a screenshot can be taken and the beans finally [somewhat] spilled.
  19. True, of course. But do you think it would rise diagonally towards the direct northern end of the stadium? Seems hard to imagine a structure that would be able to do that without vertical supports and be high enough to be seen from inside the stadium.
  20. The problem with that spot is that it's on the northwestern side of the stadium so a tall cauldron standing there wouldn't be in view of the VIP's on the west side. I think there's a good chance the cauldron is underneath the Tor. It would of course be ceremony-only as it can't sit on the stands throughout the games, and the only problem I see with it is that it might be too close underneath the fabric roof / ceremony rigging criss crosing the stadium to be safe. But I do think, at this point, it's a good guess. Adrian could've debunked that location thinking that it would only be the site of the Tor and nothing more.
  21. There are external stairs on the back side of the stadium (the west side or VIP side). You can see them here: http://a8.sphotos.ak...039272049_n.jpg
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