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Everything posted by dysan1

  1. You guys hit the nail on the head, these things go in cycles. In the current economic environment the world finds itself in, most places would be in challenging position to put on the games. The global economy is not healthy and in developing markets that is further compounded. You cannot predict that 7-10 years out. What they can change though is what they do in evaluation stages - ensure more is already built, ensure certain commitments are written in stone with specific ramifications written down if these are broken. Harping on afterwards like they are doing now with Rio, points more to the shoddy work of the IOC than just Rio and Brazil. Sensibly, South Africa stepped away from 2020/2024. You are right, in the current climate a bid would not be looked on favourably nor would the people look on it favourably either. The IOC needs to get its house in order. Cities need to have more ready made infrasturcture and less big promises that never materialise. Durban has 2022, that is the moment to ensure legacies are left behind and infrastructure developed on a realistic scale. This readies the city to understand the step up they would need to really tackle the Olympics. How they feel post 2022 will ultimately determine how they pursue the Olympics. I would not write off Africa yet. As we all said, things go in cycles.
  2. Typical media crap. The SA press love a bad news story. Yes treasury took a long time, but to have the news pop up a few days before they signed it off seems bit odd on their behaviour It will be Durban 2022. To clarify, the city is called Durban, the metropolitan region is called eThekwini. Hence we have one mayoral structure for the metro region, that is known as the eThekwini Municipality. The metro is invested in growing brand Durban, so expect that to be centre stage
  3. The money from provincial is newspaper hype, this was always to be a national government spend. The little worry is how the national government is dragging their feet, then again this is how they always are unfortunately and it was the same for 2010 world cup
  4. The city will fight on it until they get what they want out of the federation's. Frankly they hold the power for once
  5. Most inane comment ever award? Anyway. On UCI and Gymnastics. They both going to have a challenge on their hands. The committee have already repeatedly stated they will not pay for a velodrome. It's not a core required sport and we never propose it. If they wanna keep pushing, then bring some money to the table or shut it and walk away. On gymnastics that's a more complex one. It was never in the bid because again we don't have an existing venue able to cope with capacity and ceiling heights required. It was added as a mandatory event post the bidding stage. Seems the city is also pushing against this because technically it throws all their bid planning and finances out the window. A new venue would need to be built and a location found and a post games use found, not to mention finding money. They are not happy to be thrust this upon after the fact. What will happen here will something they might be forced to include and fund. But then it will make then even more hostile against any chance of cycling joining the picture
  6. I can't see this not going to South Africa. After being slapped in the face for both 2015 and 2019, to keep ignoring SA when the UK seems to constantly get it would not be a good move for stability in the management of world rugby Let a USA or Argentina try follow in 2027
  7. It did take us a long time to get interested, now the fun starts in scramble to the different events left out in... UCI bring your cheque book
  8. From the bid teams Facebook. Great to see it official. One more step on the journey for Durban
  9. Tony I secretly got excited not seeing you for months. Let out to play again? Moving on... The government today gave full backing and signed the required financial support docs, so that hurdle out the way
  10. See I see it very differently. Just because you and others buy into show pony tactics, doesn't mean others don't just get on with the task at hand. That's what the Durban bid team were doing all along. I rave is won at a vote, whether you convince 5mins before is irrelevant, its the substance that matters.
  11. With about a month to go until the announcement and all the visits complete, the Durban team today released loads of venue plan photos on their Facebook account. I won't post them all here, so go take a look there, but some key, iconic ones here. Important to note the only new facilities to be built are the IBC, Athletes Village and Shooting facilities. The others are all upgrades or existing facilities Moses Mabhida with track and 85000 seating, with the added seats on level 3. Beach Volleyball Swimming Hockey Marathon through CBD Shooting facilities on the Bluff New building for IBC next to existing TV studios and also next to the International convention Centre and Kingsmead stadium The Athletes Village
  12. The Moses Mabhida stadium was specifically designed with Olympics in mind. It can be easily expanded to 85,000 with temporary seating added to the third level. Any requirements beyond that would require construction, but plans already exist for the changes required to make it a 100,000 seater venue. However 85,000 is more than sufficient. The pool will be Olympic ready based on the construction they will do for 2022. The indoor venues dotted around the city will probably need a few additions for an Olympics and we are missing an indoor velodrome which the city has excluded from a 2022 bid but would need to include for an Olympics. Almost all venues exist for the Commies, only a few will be needed extra for an Olympics, Durban is well served with sporting facilities.
  13. And who says we have decided for sure on 2028 even?
  14. So the plan is to build the Athletes Village in Cornubia, a massive new development node to the north of the city. It is about 10mins from the airport, 5mins from the uMhlanga business/tourism node, 20mins from the Kings Park node and on a site next to the Marshall Dam. The R1.5bn cost will be bourne by the national housing department and the units will be sold post the games. The setting though looks great from these plans and will really rocket forward the residential components of mid market Cornubia as a big legacy project.
  15. Wish we could see the pictures they have displayed up close and in detail
  16. Having lived in Belfast it is good to see the city finally being ambitious in thought. The problem, as is always the case, they never put anything into action. They had many opportunities over the years to seize on better stadia facilities and failed at every hurdle. The Commonwealth Games are well beyond what they can handle
  17. So the 71 commonwealth member nations have started to arrive for personal inspections. This week is Africa/Asia, next week Europe/Oceania and the week after The Americas. The evaluation commission will release their report of their April visit and subsequent findings on 31st July
  18. Since the main pool has always been used for international Fina events I doubt that's the issue, but yes maybe at the Rachel Finlayson pool which is a public non competitive pool.
  19. Seems that the pushing to get track cycling in continues. Also from the comments it appears the city will need to redo the Rachel Finlayson pool at the beach because it is currently noted to not be deep enough for the event requirements, I am sure mostly to incorporate diving as it is not currently a pool that allows diving. What is good to see is the way the CG committee and city are talking and working so collaboratively. It bodes well.
  20. Louise Martin and team are in Durban this week on walkabout for the Commonwealth inspection
  21. I personally think Hamburg is an apt choice. Munich would be a nightmare logistically. Berlin might have an image globally, but as city if you rub off its hipster elements I personally find it lacking to Hamburg, Munich and Cologne. And look at that central island plan for Hamburg. It has long term usage and integration written all over it. As Paris. Gosh I don't know why people go on and on about the place so much, as a city it is a catastrophe to get anywhere as it is and probably the most filthy city in western Europe. Boston I was totally surprised by. It is a nice city, but it almost seems the US is not serious about this bid. And Rome... ahhh... the next Greece? You guys say 2024 seems exciting. Seems a bit of a snore. I say we need to phone them middle eastern to bid and cause some scandals
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