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  1. 9 hours ago, mattygs said:

    It's really just getting everyone on the same page at the same time. There has never been no interest in potential bids, it's just not everyone has agreed on it at the same time. 

    For a start , we need to get to the place where Auckland is acknowledged as the only candidate. Christchurch has far bigger issues, and Wellington just doesn't have the land space (the issues over building a good indoor arena is case and point).

    The proposed indoor venues in the above are fine, I'd probably cut Hamilton out a little more. We don't need an indoor sport there, Auckland has plenty of indoor venues
    (Spark arena,  North Shore Events Centre, Trusts Arena, Vodafone Events centre, Barefoot and Thompson Stadium, ANZ viaduct events centre, Skycity Convention Centre) . I'd probably question the need for sailing, but beach volleyball at the Mount would be perfect.  I'd like to think any potential bid would have at least one legacy venue, as it seems to be the only time things get built in Auckland (for events). 



    Hamilton is a linchpin to the hosting. It will have to carry at least the Sevens and some Cricket...Simply a waste of money not to...and naturally Hamilton will have to carry surplus accommodation for Cambridge and Karapiro. Tauranga would also have to host the cricket as well as the Volleyball.

    I can see "neutral" branding for the CWGs. Something like "23rd CWGs" and then "[insert venue city name here]" a la RWC.

    Auckland would still host Opening and Closing...I did notice Eden Park being avoided unless for the cricket. It cant be used for anything else...It would require expensive modifications and the demolition of the West stand to plonk a temporary track down both in it and on ground B for practice. They cannot build a new stadium in time. Mt Smart is now a dump. So we are looking at North Habour...


  2. :(

    Okay, he will always be remember for playing pretty much himself as alter ego Gunnery Sargent Hartman the the Kubrick classic, Full Metal Jacket. In his audition he swore his famous biting soul destroying insults for an hour straight without repeating himself:wacko:...Stanley Kubrick even had to ask him what a "reach around" was...:rolleyes:

    So lets have a memorial to all the classic insults he uttered in the move before Mods steps in:

    "All you twinkle toed communist maggots" - fire away.

  3. 3 hours ago, yoshi said:

    Is Adelaide Oval wide enough for a track? Only it looks a bit odd as a cricket field. I know Perth has its new stadium that's circular & screams out for a Commonwealth track - although I agree it should be Adelaide's turn. Although it would be better forthe Games for alternation to break this cycle - it'll be 16 years minimum between 'other' countries by 2026. 

    It can take up to ten years to go from and idea to reality. Track back to "Jim Jones'" GC 2018 Bid thread which began back in 2009 to get an idea of what the logistics involves. I doubt if there will be a bid from Australia for 2026 simply because no city has truly got serious, not even Adelaide. Perth has shown interest but not until 2030 which could have a log jam bid war due to it's significance. 

    Oh and here's the first credible hint from New Zealand.


  4. And now to give out the School Report Cards....:huh:

    Athletics Track and Field -  Golds...Silvers...Bronze!!!! A really good swag bag. Really good at chucking or slinging cannon balls, leaping over hypothetical walls on the end of a pole, throwing spears, and walking long distances. Also some oh so close results. Athletics has returned to the front again. A+

    Basketball - Still a growing sport in NZ and both teams came within striking distance for finals but had to settle on Bronzes each. A good future. B+

    Beach Volleyball - Fun in the sun and still a sport growing here...a Bronze to go with the bronze bodies - interesting that the clothing requirements for the women is little more that the tiniest bikinis that just ask for malfunctions yet...Men's just show up in Boardies and t-shirts. Still one of the Fun spectator sports like the sevens. A

    Boxing - A wonderful effort for a team that shied away from the limelight...Yet has done so much to bring back credibility to a once maligned Sport. All can hold their heads high with a clutch of medals including a popular Gold to cap off Boxing NZs efforts. A+

    Cycling Track -  Keeping this separate as I believe this was one of the sports that got pointed at after a slide back since Glasgow and bottoming out at the World Champs in March. The team knew it and pulled out their best efforts - and came away with a good solid bag of Medals of all colours. Still plenty to work on but a turn around very much noticed A

    Cycling Mountain - Ok a Gold and Silver in the Mountain Biking BUT forever tarnished by petty bad sportsmanship and ruining the moment. Grow up Gen Y. D

    Cycling Road - Mixed results here, a couple of medals but a spectacular mis-communication in the last 500m of the mens race cost all medal chances - and there has been ructions in the group. Because of the medals...B-

    Gymnastics - A good showing but no medals as promised. C

    Hockey - Finally...Redemption for the Women, Gold at long last, and a battle for the men to the final and to hold back a monster for a credible Silver result. Well Done! A+

    Lawn Bowls - Expected to at least Gold in two events...yet only minor medalled. Glory days past them now C+

    Netball - ...I think we can attribute the total collapse of this once held high with pride sport to a long decline at admin level going back to even before Glasgow 2014. There is clearly a huge split in Netball NZ at head office. And it has made it to team level with spectacular fails including falling to new powerhouses Malawi and Jamaica. I'm not even going to begin to fathom what is going to happen to Netball now. Girls leaving in droves to other sports are now starting to eat away at the old greyheads running netball in NZ. F 

    Rugby Sevens - Double barreled Gold blast returning New Zealand to the top of the Commonwealth and redeeming the code after disappointments of Rio 16...what else but A+

    Shooting - Failed...Simple. Went in expecting to medal as they have always since 1990. Nothing. D

    Squash - I don't think even they were expecting more than one medal...They nearly cleaned the place out!!! A

    Swimming - Sophie Pascoe - She is her own brand. A+

    Swimming - Everything else - One bronze medal...a glimmer of hope C+

    Triathlon - The Mixed Fours redeemed what is still a failed sport - made worse that NZ help invent it. It's time for our much loved Andrea Hewitt to bow out and become a super coach. It's time to unleash those monsters that are growing in our high schools...yet another sport with a glimmer of hope C-

    Weightlifting - David Litti - I have to separate him from the rest. What an example of modest and humble sportsmanship - and rewarded accordingly...here as well. A+

    Weightlifting - Bruised egos, Marital spats, on air outbursts...and the most controversial weightlifter in the world at the moment competing...yet she was the one who had the most dignity out of the rest after her horrific injury. Nothing to be proud of after promising alot...D-

    Wrestling - Simply outclassed on the mat...But not without trying and some oh so close moments. C

    Host City Gold Coast - One of the best CWGs held and only ruined by that shambolic Closing Ceremony. But not taking away for proving the concept is still alive. A

    And finally:

    TVNZ - Coverage and reporting was just deplorable. Three channels and yet no co-ordination causing finals to be missed. Smother advertising ruining the flow of both Opening and Closing Ceremonies and live broadcasts missing important moments. And then came the totally inappropriate lines of questions to athletes who were coming down from a high either winning of losing. This culminated in a downright cruel attack on the embattled Silver Ferns captain by former Silver Fern player and now sportscaster Jenny May Clarkson (nee Coffin). Social media has constantly been going off on this and the broadcaster's coverage of the CWGs. The general consensus was they should've provided some Pay Per View channels - they have the capability, and have proved it by swiping the 2019 RWC off Sky TV. F


    There we are :)



  5. Adelaide sticks out as the next host. The problem with the games are that nations want to attend but are reluctant to host... (pointing at NZ and Singapore). Australia does make a great host simply because they know how to handle large multi events well. It would be nice if Aussie can skip a cycle but really there is every chance we will be back in 2026 or even 2030. Especially if a future Brisbane 32 Olympics bid fails...and NZ still throws a hospital pass. 

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  6. :)The Opening Ceremony...Too long and didn't overly get the party started. C

    :DThe Actual Commonwealth Games...Excellent. A

    :angry:The host broadcast rights holder, some unknown til now USA based provider. (not Channel 7)...D...and boy are they starting to cop it from the NZ and Australian early Breakfast shows the morning after.

    :wacko:The Closing Ceremony...D...What a shambles, and where were the Athletes???? So much for the great beach party that was originally planned.

    :DThe Gold Coast leading the way for the "Regional cities hosting" concept...A winner, but you need to be an outstanding place.A

    :rolleyes:Australia overall as a host...Really, should just alternate the games between them and UK...and only because you need eight years to prepare a host region...Adelaide, your next.A


    B)New Zealand at the Commonwealth Games...Thanks for the memories, good, bad, and outstanding! Credibility for some sports that had the finger pointed at them redeeming themselves. Some did disappoint, and others simply smashed it out of the park they were playing in. For a little country, 46 medals evenly matched with one extra silver, oh and the Good Sportsmanship award in there too, Bloody Brilliant!!!:lol:A

    ;)Thanks Australia!A


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  7. On 3/24/2018 at 3:10 PM, Alexjc said:

    :mellow: My predictions for NZ is, surprisingly, a low medal count. I would be amazed if we met 2014's Gold total. 

    I believe it will be in the Field events where we will pick up some tin.

    Sevens: Mens, no medals. Women, at least a Silver.

    Netball: Bronze, at best.

    Basketball: Bronze if we are lucky.

    Cycling: At least one medal of each grade, but NZ has really fallen behind Aus and Eng in this sport. Nothing for Road cycling.

    Swimming: Pffffffffttt!

    Diving: A possible medal.

    Hockey: Bronze if we are lucky for both sexes.

    Track: There was only one real medal chance and now he's out. Could be a couple of surprises on the track though.

    Field: Pay dirt here, both cannon ball chuckers expected to Gold. Our supermodel looking pole vaulter expected to at least Silver. Could be some surprises in long jump and discuss.:)

    Shooting: Very much a Gold in here and a clutch of medals.:)

    Martial Arts: Could get something.

    TVNZ are going all out with broadcasting, creating a pop-up channel as well as across the board social app coverage. But there just doesn't seem to be that buzz about the CWGs like there used to be. It doesn't help that our main Olympic sports we medal in not there. Also the sad decline of Men's Sevens and the Cycling program are showing through. 

    I'm going for:

    4 Gold

    4 Silver

    8 Bronze.

    And as commentators are predicting when the CWGs are over for another cycle, a huge all over discussion of why our presence at the CWGs just no longer seems to matter :( 



    Yeap...Totally got it wrong!!!:lol::P

    :angry: But TVNZ's coverage was terrible.

  8. 1 hour ago, mattygs said:

    Pretty bloody pleased with the performance of the Kiwi team. Alex I remember you thought they would be quite down on Glasgow, and I too didn't think they'd get up to that level, but they've proven me wrong. 

    I think the overall story for NZ for these Games will be a fantastic overall NZCG team performance. I think within that are some obvious disappointments that will no doubt be triaged , but which could potentially take some of the gloss off the 11 days. Nice wee finish though, a return to the top of the podium in sevens. 

    Thinking the same and it's great to see some rejuvenation in teams and disciplines that were having fingers pointed at them. However we only bettered Glasgow by One medal, and it was a Gold. 


    So happy for the Hockey Women's Team...Redemption at long last and the Men's team holding back Australia to a respectable 2-0 loss and Silver. But seeing the NZ Sevens storm back to the top so fanatically just proves it was right to pull the A teams off the global Sevens circuit for the fortnight. Next year's Hamilton Sevens will have the women's teams play as well.

    However the were some fails...Netball will now have to go into a deep introspective inquiry...  You can see there are very huge fractures in the organization and it seems to centre around the coaching structure. It's also losing popularity as young girls move toward more lucrative and action packed sports which really gave themselves some free positive advertising during the games. Basketball, Hockey, Sevens, Boxing and Track and Field.

    Gold Coast itself proved to be the best Games Host so far...It's the best I've seen...knocking off Manchester 2002 as my favourite. 

    It also proves that up and coming regional centres can use  the Games as a catalyst for infrastructure growth.  

  9. :D

    New Zealand finishes the Commonwealth Games reaffirming it's dominance in Rugby Sevens  - Double Gold...Men's and Women's.

    The Women doing it tough against Australia with a cliffhanger extra time try...

    While the Men's totally dominated Fiji who fell apart with some really dirty play and punished for it.

    Well done both teams.

    Final New Zealand Medal Standings:

    B) GOLD - 15

    :) SILVER - 16

    :) BRONZE - 15

    Scraping past Glasgow 2014 in medal count and Gold count...

    Fifth place on the medal standings overall.




  10. :) Easily the most Successful Commonwealth Games so far, Gold Coast has paved the way for the new era of hosting.

    Clearly the regional cities and districts are a great catalyst for the continuation of the Games.

    So where now for Australia?

    There are so many regional and secondary cities that can now feel confident in studying a hosting option. 

    Gold Coast proved that it can be a tool for growth with no need to interrupt what are now jammed up and bloated mega cities. Gold Coast now have excellent venues that will continue to develop as this region grows into an even bigger city that can join forces with Brisbane and Sunshine Coast to the north as a potential Olympic host in 2032.

    Australia has options...who's next? 

    (Footnote: This page was set up after the last event and before the Closing Ceremony...)

  11. 3 hours ago, Barcelona_'92 said:

    September/October would not be acceptable either due to NBC’s demand that the Games be held in July or August.

    Err...NBC can go **** themselves. Terrestrial TV will be long gone as a viable concern by then. Amazon, Google and all the other online broadcasting providers will be owning the Olympics by this time.

    Queensland should go after a World Track and Field Champs and dare I say it...Another Commonwealth Games, this time Sunshine Coast or even further up north such as Cairns for the interim.

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  12. :D I spoke too soon...GOLD Women's Doubles Squash - Totally forgot they were playing!!!!

    Pushed us into fifth place on the table but South Africa can easily knock us back. No way of going higher, Canada has too many medals to jump past even if we win both Sevens titles. 

    The epic fail of the Netballers will see heads roll in what is fast becoming a secondary sport in NZ.


  13. 41 minutes ago, intoronto said:

    This team entered with the chance of winning a lot of gold medals. TO add there was 35+ fourth place finishes! Unbelievable.


    ...I fully expect Canada to return to 3rd overall in Birmingham 2022, because there can't be this amount of bad luck there!

    Or Canada could host the next games after in 2026?...This idea of 2030 being a compulsory hosting, don't be surprised if those games are swamped with bids...Especially from Australia. 

  14. 1 hour ago, yoshi said:

    A massive 4 gold medals were on offer on day 10 - and 14 of them came to the home nations! This is the (big) effect on the table:

    England: 42 gold, 40 silver, 41 bronze (Ashes: 75-42 - even when England win 11 golds, Oz go & win 10 :lol:)

    Wales: 10 gold, 12 silver, 14 bronze (Overtaking Scotland to lead the Celts again, & getting their joint most golds ever - I suspect some regret that they weren't bolder in going for 2022 :( )

    Scotland: 9 gold, 13 silver, 21 bronze

    Northern Ireland: 1 gold, 7 silver, 4 bronze (spare a thought for NI - getting 6 silvers in one day must be some record)

    Isle Of Man: 1 silver

    Apparently I was being too generous to the Channels - I genuinely thought they tended to win the odd medal at most Games. Obviously not.

    The roundup: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/commonwealth-games/43764636

    Just the one more day (well half-day really) to go, the highlight of which will surely be (whatever the result) another of those early-hours sporting moments as England make their first netball final.

    Home nations merged Medal total isn't all that bad. Actually equals Australia who have had home advantage...Remember who has home advantage in 22.

  15. 3 hours ago, intoronto said:

    Where do we start with this one.

    Arguably the worst Multi-sport event performance for Canada in recent memory. Literally everything that could go wrong, did. Canada's athletes were not prepared for this event and it showed, with less than half the golds won from Glasgow. Another startling statistic is no able-bodied Canadian male won a gold medal! What does this show about the sport system in this country?

    Canada's team is no larger than New Zealand's...Would've thought you would have at least 350. But you do notice India finally making the effort to be taken seriously. 

    I suppose having a successful Winter sports team could be a factor.

    I do have to admit Canada has faded from the Commonwealth Games since 1994 and the shock for Australia swiping 80% of everything, and then constant aborted attempts at finding a host city all the while taking on political pushers who gun for Olympic hosting glory - and end up swiping funding when successful. 

    Don't be too hard on yourselves. 

  16. Two more Bronze medals for the bag.

    Squash mixed Doubles and Women's Basketball.

    Two Silvers as well. Georgia Williams in Women's Road Cycling race and Men's Hockey.

    Mix it in with the two Golds and you get a pretty good penultimate day.

    Day 10 

    B) Gold - 12

    :) Silver - 16

    :) Bronze - 14

    Three away from equaling Glasgow 2014. And two away from equaling the Gold tally...It will be tight. We may just scrape home.

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