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  1. 5 hours ago, arwebb said:

    Because of other commitments, I haven't been as in tune with these Commonwealth Games as I was with the wonderful spectacle that I enjoyed in Glasgow eight years ago. Yet, from everything I have seen of them, my sense is that Birmingham, for the most part, has delivered more than the CGF could ever have hoped to believe that it would when it stepped into the breach created by Durban's exit. There are always issues and problems, of course. The rail strikes won't have helped and questions should, rightly, be asked about why a league football match at Coventry (the venue of the rugby sevens) had to be postponed at short notice yesterday because of an apparently unsafe pitch. But the issues that matter now are what happens next for Birmingham and the wider region. Unlike the West Midlands Mayor, at least based on the comments he made on the BBC News tonight, I don't see the past 11 days as the starting point for a future Olympic bid from Birmingham (at least not yet). But it could herald a long chapter of legacy events if the right level of event is targeted. Something like the 2026 European Athletics Championships, for which a bid is already in place, seems like a very good step beyond these games to me.

    Legacy is what it's all about. It's interesting you bring this up...

    A classic is Christchurch 1974 and the hosting of Pacific regional sports events that got really good coverage for about a decade after. It's still an iconic thing here in NZ...Yet Auckland has been totally forgotten as no attempt was made by that city to cash in on a legacy.

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  2. New Zealand's best ever GOLD medal haul at the CWGs and second only to Auckland in total medal haul. Fifth on the Gold  table, Sixth overall. 

    New Zealand always seems quite at home in England.

    A great effort from a post pandemic cobbled together depleted team with some surprising results from sports that were not expecting the larger haul they took. The stand out events clearly were the Cycling in all forms, Track and Field, Swimming and Squash. The barely get a mention sports threw up some surprises which allows them to gain access to funding. Great to see some "oh so close" moments from determined athletes as well...Beach Volleyball coming to mind, and great to see the girls say they'll wear what they like on the day after some Woke issues about the size of the "minimum" bikini requirements. During the day they flipped the bird to the complainers and wore the smallest they were allowed to, and evening sessions, tight leggings. 

    The pandemic saw some sports have a "quiet" games, Weightlifting, Boxing, Judo, all at least getting some minor medals.

    Track and Field saw great results when it came to jumping/vaulting over bars (those long legged "Supermodels" in their barely there "underwear" clearly a reason why that section of the stadium was packed out), and biffing cannonballs. 

    There were also frustrating disappointments, from the Team sports... Hockey, both teams, crashed out completely,  Rugby Sevens, although Bronze in both, were expected to at least Silver. Cricket T20 were lucky to get Bronze. Bowls, were expecting more and disappointed at their haul. Triathlon, I'm gonna say it - the Mix Team would've medalled if it was not for one hanger-on athlete who is well past her use-by date and should be a coach.

    But redemption for the Netball in getting on the podium with Bronze, clearly showing just how much work is still needed now that Jamaica has come of age. 

    As for the Host city...Thank you Birmingham for showing the way forward for a city hosting. I hope the mechanical Bull finds a home under cover as a keep-sake for stepping up and SAVING the games. Handing over to Victoria Region who will show another concept in hosting these minor albeit fun multisport events clearly has shown the way for New Zealand to finally step up and put in a serious bid for 2034.

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  3. On 8/7/2022 at 4:11 AM, yoshi said:

    Oh well, so much for beating Australia :ph34r:. Even I could see that Bueta was playing a different game there. Amazing run from that Aussie in the 1500 final earlier :). 

    NZ beat England for the Bronze in a team sports double - Cricket and Netball!;)

    (I'm going to do my Team New Zealand report card at the end)

  4. 14 hours ago, Scotguy II said:

    Wishful thinking but you know that the OC will be Maori culture dominated. By the end of the decade NZ culture will be Maori culture 100%. Asian, Indian, African, European, British will all be relegated to individual times such as Diwali, Chinese new year etc.

    :o I wouldn't be too deflated just yet...There will be a society backlash when the Govt changes. I'm more worried it will trigger off something so much worse.

    Yes there will be the traditional maori welcome but as we are seeing with OCs this century, a more focus on community. Yes to tradition but also to reflect on what NZ has become. - Who'd thought that we would be launching rockets into space nowadays back in 1990?

    (I do know that a mention was made after the 1990 OC that although the "war story of NZ" up to the Treaty signing was amazing, it was only after the Pacific Islands dance routine (reflecting Auckland) came in that the tempo of the ceremony really picked up.)

  5. 13 hours ago, Scotguy II said:

    New Zealand may be the country that saves the games for another dew decades. 

    NZ'ers have been orgasming over these games and no doubt the Adern era will want to get a games locked in for 2034 before next years general election which highly likely will see them loose power.

    Yes definitely at least they'll want something positive to go out on...and leave National with the hard work of laying out a clear plan. - Only to come back and be Govt when the Games are on and take credit as NZ's election cycles seem to pattern out.

    Overall the '22 games have been pretty good for the original TRADITIONAL CWG sports. The team events that get all the anticipated glamour have fallen short. 

    If the CGF want to pull a double host bid and bring 2030 and 34 to the table next year...then what's to stop the NZOC/NZ Govt from going for 2030 with an Auckland centric bid head to head with Ontario-Hamilton...a great final build up to Brisbane '32. - failing that...

    All the while putting in a long term planning for a NZ wide super games in 2034 post Olympics?

    I do prefer 2034 as NZ's turn...It will be decades overdue and the look of the games will be vastly different 54 years after we previously hosted. (hopefully the OC wont be so maori-centric as it was in 1990 and more reflect the "everybody" nature of today's diverse society.


  6. No real planning for an Auckland centric games has been made yet.

    A mayoral candidate has stupidly brought back the idea of a waterfront stadium with such a long lead in time...Don't even go there...

    Forgetting that the CGF insists on using what you already have - in Auckland's case, Albany Stadium which could have a track laid in it or Waitakere Stadium that would just need temporary seating.

  7. 3 hours ago, SportLightning said:

    All "Groundswell" speculation for now...BUT it is the first time since the failed Wellington '06 attempt that the NZ Govt has shown more than a passing interest. Considering the decade long lead in time needed to host what will be chosen as an "upsized" Games, If the NZ Govt moved on it now, 2034 could be secured.

  8. On 8/1/2022 at 1:24 AM, yoshi said:

    Yeah it was, I think it particularly benefited from being at sunset, so it had to actually be human and not just bail into projections. I'm still not sure about the section with the puppets though - nightmares material :lol:. It gave attention to the famous figures of the Midlands though, which was its point. Other than that, it stands up just as well on second viewing. Also feels like the campaign to save the bull is gathering momentum, hopefully it will succeed. If nothing is confirmed by the 8th I wouldn't be surprised if the Brummies mount an overnight picket to stop his removal!

    This OC brought back wonderful memories of Manchester '02, probably the best OC and Games overall this century so far...IMHO.;) (expect that to change on Tuesday 9th August).

    The Bull will become Iconic like Matilda '82. 

  9. On 8/1/2022 at 10:48 AM, yoshi said:

    ... (Also @Alexjc New Zealand are doing extremely well... what's come over them this games? If only those Aussies hadn't taken 26, there's probably gonna be a groundswell of support for a Kiwi bid now. At least I hope so :) )

    Nobody was interested in 2026...(or picking up 2022 for that matter)... This current govt simply paid it no mind as the only two real contenders, Auckland and Christchurch were/are in the middle of a massive infrastructure building program not really ready for a '26 Games...Also mentioned elsewhere, Christchurch has only just started construction of Te Kaha Stadium after a decade and a half of arguing.

    New Zealand does have a limited budget, only 5 million taxpayers. The closest we'll get to hosting the CWGs is 2034 as Hamilton, Ont. is putting in a firm bid for '30 and looks likely to succeed.

    As for the current 2022 CWGs NZ team...:). Fourth on the overall medals table and third on the Gold table for now, but naturally will drop when the premium events start...Track and Field. 


  10. 17 hours ago, Victorian said:

    Herein lies the rub...oh and by the way the country's name is NEW ZEALAND...not Aotearoa...

    Most New Zealanders want Christchurch to host the 2034 games as the central city to a nationwide event or at least have some major participation in them.

    It's going to cost a packet.

    We cant predict the world 12 years from now, but I would expect King Charles, being well into his 80s by then, would send out the Prince and Princess of Wales to open them.

  11. The dream of Christchurch hosting, or being a co-host of a future Games is looking further and further away as arguments rage over the delayed start on the new covered stadium...The longer they leave it, the pricier it gets...now climbing past $400 million. All because the city council wanted the South Island's largest stadium moved two blocks closer to the CBD.

    The sad irony is Lancaster Park re-opened today for school/public sports use with two rugby fields and a football pitch which converts to two cricket ovals and a softball diamond for summer. Reverting to a park space with only a main administration building, the open space will also allow for festivals and public concerts. Strategically positioned access points for power utilities, fresh and grey water facilities are located around the site.


  12. 6 hours ago, RooBlu said:

    I would certainly like to see the future games going to in no order of preference: An African nation (South Africa, Nigeria, Kenya); perhaps the north or south islands of NZ; Singapore; or even the West Indies.

    There is much more potential now that bidders are not bound to single host cities and that the Games now have greater flexibility with sports (Athletics and Swimming being the only compulsory events), and that there is now greater flexibility with the size of venues. Hopefully we won't ever see another New Delhi type situation where the budget literally blew up into the tens of billions of dollars. Venues can be placed in towns and cities across regions where they will benefit those towns and cities and not leave the legacy of white elephants as the Olympics often do.

    Another aspect is that the Commonwealth is most likely to shrink after QEII passes on. Charles is not really popular and William is still at least 20 years away. 

    As has been noted, the West Indies will all be republics soon and African nations were only ever in the Commonwealth because of the Queen and the prestige she brings.

  13. On 4/19/2022 at 1:36 AM, Australian Kiwi said:


    It makes me wonder wtf the CGF were actually doing for the past few years in the lead up to 2019 when the 2026 host was meant to be selected. I just can't shake the feeling they were not doing anything proactive at all (especially when you read that there is interest from cities - it just seems like they were not engaging ). 

    They're very lucky for the can-do attitude of one Australian state, otherwise it would be all over. 

    The CGF would have left the games in Birmingham for '26 had've Victoria passed.

    As for Auckland, far too late for that city to throw up a hurried bid, even with regional centres, Hamilton, Tauranga and Whangarei able to help out.

    The Commonwealth itself, we are stepping into uncharted territory as QEII only has a handful of years left of life.

    This was her favourite thing and she the reason why it hangs on. We have seen the visit of the Cambridges to the West Indies ended up being a PR disaster with an Empire like air to the tour pretty much pushing those respective islands towards republics.

    Hosting the games at the moment is a big money risk with little gain.

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  14. :huh: There is reporting on Fijian news sites saying New Zealand is getting ready to bid for the 2030 Centennial Commonwealth Games.

    :angry: No process is underway for Auckland and or New Zealand to bid for the 2030 edition...at the moment.

    Also NZ Herald was simply polling a feel for Auckland to host with potential mayoral candidates. Elections later this year.

    The Press, Christchurch's daily also has been running a poll for a future city and regional bid. not really front of mind at the moment...at least while the future new covered stadium is still trying to get built.


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