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  1. Kuala Lumper seems the most realistic option to me with them hosting the SEA games this year.  I really don't think Liverpool, Birmingham or even Manchester could cope with the quick turnaround, mainly due to the stadium, so London would be the best UK option.   I really think though it would be in Liverpool and Birminghams interest to push for it to go to KL in 2022 then stay on track for their 2026 bid, preferbly from Liverpool rather than Birmingham.

    If the Gold Coast weren't hosting in 2018 then Melbourne would probably be the favour - you get the impression they could host any multi-sport event with less than a weeks notice.

  2. Liverpool shouting the loudest but practically that's a tough ask - can't see either Everton or Liverpool providing the stadium (or getting one built in less than 5 years) and they'd have to build the pool too.  I agree cycling would end up in Manchester.

    Birmingham isn't in much better a position either - practically speaking London is the obvious choice for London but it does seem that despite all the talk of "legacy" there was little thought put into hosting future multi-sport events when planning the Olympic park post-2012.   Of all the UK cities Glasgow would be best positioned for a quick return, but I don't think there is any desire for them to do so.

    I'd love it to go to Singapore but they've shown little interest in hosting them.  Kuala Lumper might be an option too but not sure they've hosted any multi-sport event since the 1998 games.   As things stand even Delhi looks attractive.


  3. On 8/23/2016 at 4:59 PM, Rob. said:

    Technically, track cycling isn't a core sport so if Birmingham doesn't want to construct a velodrome they could just decide not to have that sport in 2026. Durban has dropped it for 2022. In reality of course, a British Games dropping track cycling would rightly cause a huge stink.

    But these days even cities like Derby are building velodromes. Surely Birmingham can support one! And maybe theirs won't look like a sad face.


    Derby Velodrome, why you so sad??

    Well there would be the venue for any Birmingham bid - difficult to justify building one in Birmingham if a suitable relatively new venue is less than an hour away.

  4. Dan Walker has been superb, as have all the BBC presenters to be fair.   Clare Balding gets all the credit once again but I think cycling turned out to be her krptonite - she didn't seem to grasp the basics of it and with her increased workload these games as the primetime presenter she wouldn't have had the time to study it in the way she could the swimming in 2012, where she had very few studio presenting shifts. 

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  5. Agree about Torino - that is by far the best OBS intro.  Also love the CBC reworking of their Olympic theme for those games too.

    I hate though how OBS take priority on the end card - wasn't so bad when they had a nice logo but this year it's just the Olympic rings and "OBS" in big letters - would be much better if the games logo took prominence, though I do think countries who use the OBS titles can edit the ending of them.

    As for the BBC the Rio 2016 titles are probably now my favourites, though as a theme tune nothing will ever beat Barcelona.

  6. Absolutely ridiculous this got back in.  Nobody missed it and from a cost point of view it's about the most expensive thing they can add - needs it's own venue (which isn't a standard sports stadia) and being a team sport it's adding hundreds of athletes to the programme.

    Pretty much all the additions this time around are a joke - skateboarders don't want skateboarding in, climbing surely isn't of the standard to even be considered for Olympic inclusion while squash still sits on the sidelines for reasons nobody really understands.

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  7. 22 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

    Most Americans would probably not wake up at 2 in the morning.  These hours are hardly "ungodly."  A little inconvenient, but especially with the swimmers, they lost their case to be upset when they were smashing world records left and right in Beijing despite the claims the schedule would negatively affect them.  NBC has that much power because they pay that much money.  What demands should the IOC make of NBC?  As if the IOC isn't already well-versed in making demands.  If by grow balls, you mean accept less money to get their way, you know that's not going to happen.

    I managed to just wake up in time for Adam Peaty's final last night - left it to my body to decide if it was worth waking up for and woke up about 5 minutes beforehand.   Unfortunately my body also decided to keep me awake during the Opening Ceremony despite me getting bored of it rather quickly.

    NBC are probably as good as anyone as prepackaging highlights into a show, so no reason not to give network viewers the live option and the highlights option.   The next two Winter Olympics at least should offer some live skiing in primetime without disruption to the schedules (they're normally held in the morning, so that'll fall in primetime).   I don't see what NBC have got to lose in 2020 by giving viewers the chance to watch the evening events, including the ceremonies, live in the mornings and then having a mixture of live morning events and highlights of the days key moments in the evening.  I'd be surprised if the overall ratings dropped for the ceremonies if they had a live broadcast in the morning and an encore in the evening.

  8. 1992-1998 the most interesting evolution of the graphics (I particularly liked Nagano), but got a boring from 2000 when everything was just tweaked slightly from games to games, probably a result of the creation of the OBS rather than local host broadcasting companies for each games.  Rio is the biggest evolution but still basically the same as London - a nice design though but think the yellow text is awful.  

  9. NBC possibly the only rights holder in the world that doesn't show it live - was ridiculous with the ceremony when they could surely have started at 7pm.  Yes they pay the most for rights but collectively the rest of the world puts their hand in too - and the latter starts don't favour the Europeans.   It's notable with the Paralympics that the swimming and athletics will begin about 4 hours earlier, much more suitable for UK audiences and still primetime for Rio.  Anyone know what is "primetime" in Brazilian television?

    I guess in Tokyo we might get morning swimming finals again.   Notice in Rio for the athletics though they're having finals in both the morning and evening session, so some (less appealing) finals are early evening in Europe.


  10. 9 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

    Supposedly, the daytime show is going to split between the IBC and Copacabana.  Primetime will be at the IBC.  NBCSN will probably make use of both

    Similar arrangement for the BBC, though their Olympic Park broadcasts are from within the park rather than the IBC.  Most of the BBC1 coverage is from Copacabana, except primetime which is from the Olympic Park with Dame Clare Balding of Olympia.  Reverse for BBC4 with daytime from the Olympic Park and primetime from the Copacabana - and so far all on the beach rather than in the studio.


  11. They seem to be keeping the second cauldron a secret - only a couple of quite unofficial videos around of it's lighting in the middle of the night and not seen a single shot of it on the broadcasts today.   It's as if the IOC are wanting to downplay the cauldron and make it just about the lighting rather than it burning for the games.

    If the Maracana was the Olympic Stadium it would have been fine - the cauldron is just about visible above the roof line and it would look superb overlooking the athletics, and be one step up on the London cauldron.   But it's not - it's only used for football and to be honest I would be surprised at all to discover it's been removed for those games.

    Hopefully Tokyo will return to the tradition but if this is the future of the games I'd rather see the torch arrive in the stadium earlier in the ceremony and then travel through the streets to the location of the city Cauldron to be lit at the end of the ceremony.

  12. Not sure "bid" is the right term for the Commonwealth Games anymore.  Last one standing is usually more apt.

    A shame Cardiff backed out but understandable, and I'd rather not see it back to England quite yet, although Liverpool is probably as close as it could get to me - although the all-Wales CG bid had the athletics just 10 miles from me, but that would never have been the final outcome.

    I take it there is little interest from Singapore in hosting, or it returning to Kuala Lumper.  Canada seem to have backed out too.   Would be good to see the games return to New Zealand though, but again is 2026 too soon after Australia in 2018?

  13. I loved the lighting of the cauldron in London (one of my faves, and for once something mechanical worked), but hated how it didn't shine over London for the duration of the games.  Having the cauldron locked inside an empty stadium for half the games is not what it's supposed to be about.

    Therefore Athens probably wins for me - simple, elegant and quite modern.  

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  14. On 7/25/2016 at 7:29 PM, zekekelso said:

    The GB Rugby team is mixed?? I thought they were just going with one of the home nation teams.

    No, unlike football rugby has a history of the nations combining with the British Lions, so that's been the template for this.

    Wales I think have 24 athletes according to an article at the weekend - what would be interesting is how many people from both countries who aren't going would qualify if the Home Nations were each represented individually at the games.  

  15. A shame but not surprising.  The cost does seem high but the sporting infrastructure is not there - even converting the Millennium Stadium or Cardiff City Stadium to host the Athletics wouldn't have come cheap and wouldn't have necessarily got the go ahead from the owners of the stadia, especially based on how long Hampden Park was out of action for.

  16. P.S. Actually seems that just like recent deals this involves the BBC giving up things early and it'll be from 2018, not 2022, that they cut back to two streams. How poor must the BBC's negotiators be?

    BBC: We've got the 2018-2020 rights

    Eurosport: We've got the 2022-2024 rights

    BBC: We'd like to share those please.

    Eurosport: Fair enough. We'll let you show no more than two events at a time in return for £110m and the entire rights to 2018-20. Oh, and you'll only be allowed to show two events at a time live in 2018 and 2020 too.

    BBC: Great, DEAL!

  17. That is such a poor deal for everyone concerned - another example of the BBC being taken back to the 90s. I don't even see how that deal can be legal - the Olympics is on the crown jewels list which means it must have free to air live coverage in it's entirity. No World Cup match can be shown on pay TV (they even have to get permission for the group games they have to show on free to air digital channels), so I don't see why any event from the Olympics should be allowed to be exclusive to pay-TV. At the very least every medal event and every event featuring a British participant or team should be free to air, and though I expected a deal where the BBC would get live coverage plus a limited number of additional live feeds in return for the 2018-20 pay-TV rights I didn't expect it to be so crap - just one stream is pathetic and simply inadequate.

    The reported £110m price tag for such rights, on top of the BBC giving Eurosport the 2018-20 pay-TV rights, just suggests poor negotiations by the BBC. They only paid £60m for the full rights to London 2012 (where Eurosport also had pay-TV rights), so to pay over double that (as the Winter rights aren't as valuable) for just two streams of coverage really does suggest they're being ripped off. Eurosport only paid £920m for the 2018-2024 rights in total, so the BBC is contributing an eighth for next to nothing.

    It also shows how the IOC screwed up by doing a deal with Eurosport behind closed doors - if the BBC were willing to pay that much for such crap secondary UK rights for just one Olympic cycle the IOC would easily have got more than £920m by airing an open aucition amongst all Europes PSBs - the big five would probably have cleared the £1bn mark, and even on top of that the IOC could have sold pay-TV rights to Eurosport as they did previously.

  18. Just highlighted how the mandatory list for the Commonwealth Games needs updating, but completely understand Durban's stance. Although I'm not a fan of cities being awarded events without a bidding process I wonder if some sort of guarantee for a World Championships in Track Cycling and Gymnastics could change their mind - though it probably still wouldn't be financially viable.

    Are their other venues in South Africa that could be used. Glasgow sent the Diving over to Edinburgh while back in Manchester 2002 the shooting was about 300 miles away, and I think an event outside Durban but in South Africa would be preferable to none at all.

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