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Was hoping after the brilliant Paris 2024 presentation that the handover presentation being done from the host city would continue even post covid but seems we're already back in the stadium. The ceremonies this time around have been really poor though - knew they'd be scaled back for obvious reasons but that didn't have to be a bad thing. Hopefully what is becoming a new tradition of the Paralympics delivering something better continues this year to as these have not been a spectacle at all and lacked any soul.
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All the previous compilations of cauldron lightings I've seen have either skipped over Lake Placid or just had a still image. This is the first time I've seen video of their lighting included - one of the nicer cauldrons of the 80s IMO. The clip also highlights how far we've fallen with the pathetic effort of Beijing. Gone from effectively 5 cauldrons in Vancouver to zero in Beijing.
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Beijing 2022 Ceremonies
Brekkie Boy replied to Ikarus360's topic in Beijing 2022 Ceremonies Discussions
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It really is pathetic isn't it. The "energy saving" narrative is a bit of a joke when you cut to the wide view of all the stadiums lit up at night plus those 5 towers. The only flame we're really seeing on the Olympic coverage in the UK is the virtual fireplace behind the presenter.
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Coe is certainly the safe, boring, choice. No doubt he did a great job with London 2012 but I wouldn't call him an outstanding success heading up the IAAF (or whatever it calls itself nowadays). I don't think I've ever known World Athletics to be in worse shape really. The Diamond League really wasn't the saviour of the sport it made itself out to be - a bloated top tier tournament full of events which were far from top tier and pretty much saw the secondary tier, so important as a feeder series for the generation of athletes not quite at the very top, struggle to co-exist alongside it compared to when it was the Golden League where you had the 6-7 flagship events but a decent series of events complementing them. Anyhow, that was launched before his watch to be fair but I think the consequences are being felt under his tenure. What I do hope is that whoever the candidate is the realise the importance of the Olympics being such a special event because it only happens every 4 years and don't get any smart ideas like the idiots over at FIFA about making it every 2 years, especially if that is the direction the World Cup takes.
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The energy efficiency line doesn't really work when you've got the 5 towers lit up which have seemingly been built for these games. It seems that organisers of recent games are aware that if the cauldron isn't the focal point it should be they need to build something else that is.
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Brekkie Boy replied to Ikarus360's topic in Beijing 2022 Ceremonies Discussions
It's just a fact of broadcasting now that most things are getting their lowest ever ratings due to the explosion of streaming options in the last couple of years. I do think the time difference with Paris though might see a return to just the pre-recorded primetime screening on NBC itself anyway (perhaps with it live exclusively on Peacock), as a 3pm airing will hit the primetime screening more than a 7am screening will. -
Exactly - just seen it on the BBC and it looks really good but you can't see the flame at all. I bet the energy used to both make it and keep it moving throughout the games is probably as much as the energy saved by not having a proper cauldron too. Maybe this is the cost of offsetting all the fake snow? Wouldn't be surprised if they keep changing the torch in it too as there doesn't look to be anything powering it.
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Brekkie Boy replied to Ikarus360's topic in Beijing 2022 Ceremonies Discussions
Thanks. Hopefully post-covid reliance on them will subside. Of course the plan with Paris is a ceremony within the city along the river so it'll probably be out with the floor projection but suspect they will project things on various landmarks. -
Beijing 2022 Ceremonies
Brekkie Boy replied to Ikarus360's topic in Beijing 2022 Ceremonies Discussions
I gather they're continuning the Winter Olympic tradition of a seperate medals plaza. I was hoping covid might have seen that idea scrapped and just have the venue ceremonies but doesn't look to be the case. Any shots of the plaza, and will there be anyone there to view the presentations? -
Yes - it was that underwhelming! It is even still burning - not seen any shots of it or a second version within the city or Olympic Park. It is such a poor design - well, no design at all. Didn't give the ceremony it's moment and doesn't result in a cauldron that is easy on the eye. And to think for a moment before it was "lit" I was worried for the safety of the kids around the snowflake as I assumed the whole thing was about to burst into flames. Hopefully Paris's city centre plan (if they don't U-turn on it) means that for the first time since Sochi the actual cauldron that will be the main cauldron of the games will be lit during the Opening Ceremony.
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Anyone but Bach - hopefully someone with a backbone. His comments this week passing off "human rights" as "political" are damn right disgusting. It isn't a bi-partisan issue, it's an humanity issue and the Olympic ideals should extend to equal rights for all. Add to that putting the rights in much of Europe behind a pay wall and the farce of handing Brisbane the 2032 games before their rival cities even knew the bidding process was open and it all adds up to one of the worst presidents in IOC history. I'd like to think the movement moves forward with someone who puts the athletes and spectators at the forefront and doesn't allow the games to be used for sports washing by the usual suspects, but frankly I suspect they're all as bad as each other.
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The lighting of the cauldron is supposed to be so inspirational - light the fire within for the athletes to compete, light the fire for future athletes watching at home and light the fire for viewers to embrace the games over the next couple of weeks. This failed to do that, as did the ceremony as a whole. Kind of feel for those watching for the first time - for me it's now 30 years of ceremonies. Don't have strong memories of Albertville but Barcelona is my first real memory of the games and probably couldn't have got a more inspirational flame lighting to start things. Really expected Beijing to show that you could do something spectacular even with a down-scaled more eco-friendly cauldron, but that was without doubt the worst cauldron "lighting" ever.
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Is that the cauldron? I know they've been getting smaller to be greener but sticking a hand held torch in a snowflake is ridiculous. Was expecting at least the snowflake to be lit. Anyway, well done Atlanta - you no longer have the worst cauldron ever. As for the ceremony - a better tone than Tokyo and you can't go far wrong relying on children in the absense of a big showcase spectacular. The parade though goes on far too long as always and I think viewers need more than 15 minutes to warm up for it - much better to front load the artistic part and then get through to the lighting of the flame quite quickly after.
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Moved 2022 before its to late.
Brekkie Boy replied to olympikfan's topic in Beijing 2022 Olympic Winter Games
To quote Harry Hill from The Last Leg on Friday night, "Well, the olympics just won't be the same without the diplomats". -
Presumably the central elements of the ceremony will all be concentrated in one area (as identified by "protocols" on the map as I think the ceremony rules state they have to take place in front of the various dignitaries (and probably paying spectators too, but it'll be the IOC and their guests prioritised!). I did love how Melbourne used the river in 2006 and it does sound like they may be making more of this than it is in a way - essentially it's one ceremonial area with the river then used as the route for athletes and the flame to arrive, with a few added ceremonial elements. It just happens the ceremony site itself is not a designated stadium.
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Terrorists already know the games are in Paris. The Opening Ceremony being so open won't make much difference to the threat - indeed it spreads people out and tightens security across the city rather than focuses it on one venue. Will be interesting to see something completely different and should at least mean a return to the actual Olympic Cauldron we see throughout the games being lit during the Opening Ceremony. Part of me though thinks it ultimately won't happen and when somebody in 2023 looks to cut costs, as often happens a year out, it'll be an obvious thing to move back to the stadium.
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Beijing 2022 Media Updates
Brekkie Boy replied to Durban Sandshark's topic in Beijing 2022 Olympic Winter Games
I do wonder if NBC might scale back on their live online offerings considering the TV broadcast ratings for Tokyo. Are NBC getting anything moved to the mornings so they can air it live in primetime (Figure Skating perhaps?), or as skiing events tend to be in the morning anyway are they happy enough with that, despite the relative lack of US interest. -
Moved 2022 before its to late.
Brekkie Boy replied to olympikfan's topic in Beijing 2022 Olympic Winter Games
Bach needs to resign for playing such a role in the whole fiasco. Frankly he's been a disaster as head of the IOC. -
Rugby World Cups 2027-31
Brekkie Boy replied to Sir Rols's topic in Other International Games / Bids
And England the womens event in 2025. No surprises there - if there is a relatively safe option on the table World Rugby usually go for it. -
2026 Commonwealth Games: Glasgow 2026
Brekkie Boy replied to Alexjc's topic in Commonwealth Games / Bids
The dedicated thread seems to have vanished so perhaps the idea of them hosting has too but I'd much rather see a Perth games than a Sydney games. -
Just two cores sports would kill it off ultimately IMO. It largely only remains really relevant in the UK and Australia so catering to their core events is necessary too. What I think is an issue, and this is partly due to the UK and Australia dominating hosting, is the Commonwealth Games isn't seen as a springboard to hosting other multinational events. Really it should be the stepping stone for many countries to show they could step up to the Olympics (though India really screwed that up!) or at least major international events. OK, it has to change otherwise it will die but must admit that if Europe got it's act together and sorted out a proper Eurolympics I wouldn't be too gutted should the Commonwealth Games come to an end now, even though it is one of the few non-team events where we can see Welsh athletes compete as Wales.