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Brekkie Boy

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  1. A shame but not surprising.  The cost does seem high but the sporting infrastructure is not there - even converting the Millennium Stadium or Cardiff City Stadium to host the Athletics wouldn't have come cheap and wouldn't have necessarily got the go ahead from the owners of the stadia, especially based on how long Hampden Park was out of action for.

  2. P.S. Actually seems that just like recent deals this involves the BBC giving up things early and it'll be from 2018, not 2022, that they cut back to two streams. How poor must the BBC's negotiators be?

    BBC: We've got the 2018-2020 rights

    Eurosport: We've got the 2022-2024 rights

    BBC: We'd like to share those please.

    Eurosport: Fair enough. We'll let you show no more than two events at a time in return for £110m and the entire rights to 2018-20. Oh, and you'll only be allowed to show two events at a time live in 2018 and 2020 too.

    BBC: Great, DEAL!

  3. That is such a poor deal for everyone concerned - another example of the BBC being taken back to the 90s. I don't even see how that deal can be legal - the Olympics is on the crown jewels list which means it must have free to air live coverage in it's entirity. No World Cup match can be shown on pay TV (they even have to get permission for the group games they have to show on free to air digital channels), so I don't see why any event from the Olympics should be allowed to be exclusive to pay-TV. At the very least every medal event and every event featuring a British participant or team should be free to air, and though I expected a deal where the BBC would get live coverage plus a limited number of additional live feeds in return for the 2018-20 pay-TV rights I didn't expect it to be so crap - just one stream is pathetic and simply inadequate.

    The reported £110m price tag for such rights, on top of the BBC giving Eurosport the 2018-20 pay-TV rights, just suggests poor negotiations by the BBC. They only paid £60m for the full rights to London 2012 (where Eurosport also had pay-TV rights), so to pay over double that (as the Winter rights aren't as valuable) for just two streams of coverage really does suggest they're being ripped off. Eurosport only paid £920m for the 2018-2024 rights in total, so the BBC is contributing an eighth for next to nothing.

    It also shows how the IOC screwed up by doing a deal with Eurosport behind closed doors - if the BBC were willing to pay that much for such crap secondary UK rights for just one Olympic cycle the IOC would easily have got more than £920m by airing an open aucition amongst all Europes PSBs - the big five would probably have cleared the £1bn mark, and even on top of that the IOC could have sold pay-TV rights to Eurosport as they did previously.

  4. Just highlighted how the mandatory list for the Commonwealth Games needs updating, but completely understand Durban's stance. Although I'm not a fan of cities being awarded events without a bidding process I wonder if some sort of guarantee for a World Championships in Track Cycling and Gymnastics could change their mind - though it probably still wouldn't be financially viable.

    Are their other venues in South Africa that could be used. Glasgow sent the Diving over to Edinburgh while back in Manchester 2002 the shooting was about 300 miles away, and I think an event outside Durban but in South Africa would be preferable to none at all.

  5. Not hugely surprised by this - it's probably been on the cards since NBCSN launched.

    On a similar note coverage of many Olympic sports said to be underthreat at the BBC with a £35m reduction of the sports right budget and axing of the broadcast red button service, where many events which didn't get a broadcast on the main channels were aired. The internet delivered "Red Button+" service will continue.

  6. I assume that once they become an official candidate city, they're not allowed to travel to the city. But I don't know how the IOC will regulate where the voters can and cannot travel.

    I don't see how that could be enforceable at all - members may have to travel for family reasons, business or if a city is bidding for the Olympics there is a chance it might be hosting major sporting events, while with the bigger international cities the IOC can't stop people from holidaying there. Chances are an IOC member might like to visit Paris, Rome or LA in the next couple of years.

    Agree though with the point of the article though of course it would get trickier when it isn't a two-horse race. Perhaps the field needs to be trimmed down to just 2 or 3 candidates with a year to go and then an opportunity for members to visit them at the time, but kept short and sweet rather than a week of wining and dining.

  7. Well that happened.

    An event on this scale just goes by unnoticed without the major Olympic sports being there in full, plus crucially free to air coverage. For the first couple of days I did go to the effort of finding some stuff on BT Sport or watching stuff via the Youtube app, but the novelty faded fast.

    That said I'm glad Britain performed well, even without athletics, cycling and rowing properly represented.

  8. I really hope that they sells it on. I actually think it should be decided by law how exclusive rights should be sold. And that should be for one country at time! How can one Company buy for Whole Europe!!! its absurd I think. As one point out it is very different what the countries want to see.

    This is the first real challenge when it comes to sports rights and I hope at least one broadcaster in one country does push the issue. The EBU can bit collectively (and indeed did for many years), and in more recent times for the countries outside the big five the rights have been on sold to an agency, but then they were sold on in a country by country basis.

    Not even the biggest channels have a chance if the rights are sold collectively - and indeed in this case behind closed doors it seems. It's one thing organisations renewing rights with their existing partners without putting them out to tender but I think it's pretty bad form to sign them away without giving the existing rights holders the opportunity to bid.

  9. I'm far less worried about this than I would be had it been Sky or BT snapping up the rights. (As the Tory policy, they like to **** over the BBC and help Sky as much as possible)

    Eurosport is a long standing player in the Olympic market and I really do think this deal is more about them protecting their main portfolio - Olympic sports outside of the Olympics - by taking control of this Olympic channel. Had it developed the way the IOC were planning they'd have had a major new competitor in the market.

    As for the games themselves I really do think Eurosport will be looking to on-sell the rights where possible - suspect there is far more value in doing that than in trying to recoup it through advertising. There is the question of how much - 200 hours of the summer games and 100 hours of the Winter Games is roughly what we're used to on BBC1/BBC2, but if that is all that was offered it would be setting their coverage back 20 years. There needs to be a little bit more to please all sides - I'd say 6-8 streams for the BBC, with Eurosport having everything else. The BBC also has a potential sweatener in opening up the 2016-20 games to British Eurosport too.

    My main fear isn't what Eurosport will do, but how BBC Sport will react. In recent years they've been quite happy to give up rights and become a minor party at the rights table, something which doesn't sit well with fans of their respective sports (F1 and Golf). I hope they do fight for as much as Eurosport is willing to give away, rather than just be happy to snap up the crumbs at a discount price.

  10. Is Spain still broke though? Agree though if they're still serious about the Olympics and think they have most the venues in place it would be a wise move for Madrid. Suspect though they've missed their Olympic chance for now - my heart says Paris for 2024 and I think that would put a potential Madrid Olympics back to at least 2036.

  11. Really hope all those journalists who slag off the BBC every time they send a couple of hundred staff to the Olympics are watching these Euro Games - or perhaps not watching is the right expression.

    BT Sport have gone to pretty much zero effort, simply broadcasting the host feeds with no presenters, commentators or interviewers of their own. There is the odd pre-packaged interview to fill a bit of time, but barely anything. And thanks to the way BT is distributed for me it's easier just to call up the Youtube channel for the live coverage - I've watched a bit here and there, but with little coverage in the media at all it's actually quite difficult to curate your own viewing to catch the moments you want to catch.

    Also after being able to watch practically every event live at London 2012 and Glasgow 2014 the coverage of Baku seems quite limited. There never seems to be more than 4 live feeds coming out of Baku (and quite often 1 or 2 of them are "replays"), while surprisingly there doesn't seem to have been any coverage at all of the first rounds of the Boxing (live or pre-recorded), which is quite surprising considering Taekwondo and Karate has been covered in full and I'd have thought with all the focus being on one ring boxing it would be relatively easy to cover, plus I'm sure it's quite popular in that part of the world too.

  12. A two-hour opening ceremony - that's more like it! Didn't see much of it (and BT are rubbish at making stuff available On Demand) but was so glad to see something a bit different with the cauldron lighting considering in recent years so many have gone down the light small cauldron, set off some fireworks, light bigger cauldron route. OK, that is kind of what they did but it was far more spectacular than anything we've seen for some time.

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