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Brekkie Boy

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  1. Realistic it's very unlikely - rebuilding starts with homes, schools, hospitals.   Bobsleigh tracks and curling rinks won't be high on the agenda.

    Sarajevo bid themselves for 2010 but it was just too soon and as much as a games bid can provide hope for a recovering city and country, it can't stage the games.   We've seen too with Christchurch in NZ too that although the idea of a Commonwealth Games forming part of the rebuilding process (following an earthquake in this case) in reality that just isn't even on the agenda.   Cities have greater priorities and can't afford to take on the potential debt.

  2. Members posting multiple lengthy posts back to back in a short period of time is a much bigger issue than the ads here - just went in the London 2012 Memories thread expecting to see a couple of pages of forumers memories but just got a repost of anyone who'd mentioned it on Twitter, which TBH we'd read at the time.    Seems odd we're restricted on how many times we can "react" to posts in a day but there is seemingly no restriction on posting.


    Overall though I appreciate that this site is still here - I've seen a couple of long running forums in other areas disappear in recent years as those who launched them move on with their lives and don't need the headaches of the members anymore.    That said though 100% agree the admins need to tidy up the forum menu page and archive the forums dedicated to past games.

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  3. It's actually an event where very little hype about is actually helped - it was outstanding and no doubt the crowds made it, but even taking out the covid factor there is something about Britain's ability to sell out a crowd even for morning sessions which just isn't something that is the norm in many other countries - the first couple of days in Munich and you generally saw more seats than people in the crowd.

  4. 13 hours ago, Victorian said:

    Bold vision leads to hunger games

    The News, April 13, 2017, lauded the Shepparton-inspired bid for a regional “people’s” Commonwealth Games as bold and visionary.

    Our editorial following the announcement was not dismissive of the concept, despite the scant detail provided.

    We said at the time that “all grand projects require two cornerstones — a bold dream anchored in reality”.


    The reality, even then, was clear.

    The Commonwealth Games was facing an uncertain future with few countries, let alone cities, prepared to take on the difficult and expensive task of hosting the event.

    The South African city of Durban was elected to host the 2022 Games but pulled out due to financial constraints, leaving Birmingham to step in.

    Victoria was aiming for 2030 but was able to snare the 2026 slot because it was a serious bid, and there were no other bidders.

    Our capacity as a state, and a nation to host major international sporting events would have also helped.

    That Greater Shepparton has not to date been rewarded for its leadership and vision is the only negative about the start of the countdown to 2026.

    Four hubs, Gippsland, Geelong, Ballarat, and Bendigo, have been announced as the central pillars of the regional games — the rest of regional Victoria has been thrust into the Commonwealth equivalent of The Hunger Games.

    Originally pitched by City of Greater Shepparton as an event spread across 11 regional cities, the field currently sits at five, including Melbourne.

    Those five will logically consume most of the infrastructure and therefore the benefit of a Games legacy.

    The rest are hoping (and lobbying) for something: sporting events, cultural events, anything.

    The longer the public campaigns and arm twisting are allowed to continue by those towns and regions who are currently missing out, the more animosity it will create.

    The real legacy of the Games should be the shared sense of achievement and confidence generated by successfully hosting a major international event.

    Every region, every major regional city, should have that opportunity, but especially Shepparton, which had the foresight and gumption to pursue the dream in the first place.

    Can't you just link to articles, or at least put them in quotes so you have to expand to read the whole thing.

    Whilst updates are appreciated posting them in full in a larger font size just makes the thread feel more cluttered than it needs to be.   Pretty poor online etiquette too to repost articles without linking to the source.

  5. The EBU and EOC have signed a deal for the rights to the 2023 and 2027 games meaninig for the first time it'll be guaranteed live free to air coverage on PSBs across the continent, which perhaps gives it a chance of sticking arond a bit longer.   Just need the federations to sort themselves out and get behind a united programme.


    Not sure if any potential hosts have expressed an interest in 2027 yet - the EOC chief wants them to go to a Western European host.  Have to wonder if it's the sort of thing Birmingham might now go for.



  6. 9 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said:

    It actually is. 

    Australian Open, F1 Grand Prix, Moomba - then Easter (and cooler weather not long after). March is pretty well the only time to stage it in these locations without jumping forward to November (which is the State Election with caretaker provisions, so also not an option). 

    I know they still pretend Easter is a non-ratings period (but they often designate Games periods as "non-ratings" anyway) but really no reason it couldn't be held over Easter.   Aus Open and F1 are done and dusted by then and a community festival in Melbourne shouldn't affect events elsewhere in Victoria.    We managed a clash with the tail end of an international football tournament, the start of the Football League and Premier League season and the launch of a domestic cricket championships - these things are only issues if you make them are issues.


    Still ridiculous too they haven't got Track Cycling, surely one of the flagship events, locked in.   Is it petty local politics preventing them staging it in Melbourne?   If Birmingham can agree to hold them in London there really is no excuse.


    58 minutes ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

    Don't think Australia has anything much to learn about hosting Comm Games or Olympics- we do an exceptional job every time.  Most of those lessons seem to come straight from the Sydney 2000 playbook anyway.

    The one thing that was grim was the 'scenery' for the marathons and road races- what a shockingly ugly city Birmingham is. Look like some it was in the Blitz last week.

    Agree on both counts there.   The marathon was particularly poor and not very well attended along the route either which didn't help.   The bike races were out in Walsall and Wolverhampton - not much better than inner city Birmingham really.   Might have been better off going the other direction to Warwick.   The Cannock Chase location for the Mountain Biking though was stunning.


  7. 9 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said:

    Different countries is entirely unnecessary. 

    For Hamilton 100 to propose hosting events in Gibraltar and Jamaica tells me that they might not have the right people at the helm at this stage of the planning. Keep it focused on Southern Ontario. 

    Perhaps even suggests they don't have the facilities for it.

    I'm guessing shooting may be due to local gun laws making staging it too much of a hassle.  That was essentially the reason it wasn't in Birmingham, though they could have staged it down in Surrey it they really wanted too.


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  8. On 7/28/2022 at 1:29 PM, BigVic said:

    Victoria 2026 will begin 20 years and 2 days after the beginning of the Melbourne 2026 Commonwealth Games and 2 days after the conclusion of the Milan-Cortina Paralympic Winter Games

    Really is disgraceful they are so close - just shows a complete lack of respect, and practically too you'd expect quite a few countries ot have the same broadcasters covering both.   Nowadays "host broadcasters" of such big international events don't rely on local expertise but a network of global experts who go from one event to another.   Such a short turnaround between the two events does neither event any favour - surely the calendar isn't so crowded that Victoria couldn't wait at least another week.

  9. As nice as the idea of Jamaica hosting the Netball is they really do need to put the athletes at the centre of their planning and as much a couple of weeks in the Caribbean is tough for anyone to object too having them so remote from the rest of the games essentially removes the sport from being part of a multi sport event.

    One of the very few complaints about the Birmingham games has been the athletes being split out over three different villages.

  10. Agree.   There was so little hype in the lead up but they've been a brilliant games, no doubt helped by being the first big multi-sport event with crowds back and although it's been nowhere near the TV audiences of a decade ago the ratings have actually been really strong considering where TV ratings are now, generally above the slot averages for the BBC.


    You can tell how good it's been by me not feeling the need to comment here.   Means I have virtually nothing to moan about.   The Opening Ceremony was pretty decent too - clearly London inspired without the London budget, as indeed the opening of the closing ceremony has been, but all the better for it.

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  11. Really is depressing to see where Britian is today compared to where it was a decade ago for London 2012.  

    I'm not too enthused by a games returning that quickly (I think another European city needs to host before we consider bidding again) but I think Birmingham 2022 shows there are other options for the Olympic Stadium than a stadium to be converted for football if they were out of London.   Yes, scaling the Alexander Stadium up to 80,000 on a temporary basis might be tricky, but 50,000 or so would probably be possible.   It just becomes a question of cost - how much does a temporary stadium cost as opposed to a legacy stadium which needs converting.

    FWIW if the Olympics did return to London I'm not even convinced the London Stadium would be the host venue.   It's already being used less and less for athletics and I can see West Ham wanting to buy it out at some point to convert it properly.       

  12. On 7/10/2022 at 12:06 PM, RooBlu said:

    Also in Australia you have to account for the domestic cricket season, the AFLW, and the Victorian Spring races which draw enormous amounts of spectators. All of these occur over September into the Summer.

    Isn't cricket more November, certainly at an international level anyway.    The problem with cricket and indeed most sports now is the seasons never stop - the Winter Tours run into the Summer Tours and the breaks between them are weeks (sometimes days) rather than months.    It used to be a case you'd get at least three months between the end of one season and the beginning of the next in most sports, but that gap has virtually gone.


    Must say though I've been watching the Australian version of Hunted this last week which is filmed across Victoria and it's actually showcasing the state in a way I've not seen any other TV show do.   Whether the Games can do that I'm not so sure but it is kind of setting a template for future games to be hosted perhaps by a country rather than city - although few countries have the sporting infrastructure that Victoria (and NSW) have.

  13. Ridiculous to have them in March - that's part of the reason interest in the games is declining.   Late April is just about OK but generally late September/October better for the event after the season in most sports so it's something the season builds up too - and extends it for the viewers rather than catches them unaware.    No doubt though agreements with the footy codes in Australia, which have their grand finals in Sept/Oct, rules that out.

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  14. On 7/5/2022 at 3:35 PM, Apple said:

    Ugh, Vancouver winning the 2010 bid also affected Hamilton's 2010 Commonwealth bid. The Games was awarded to New Delhi. 

    Have to wonder if the Commonwealth Games are now considered such a small non-event in Canada that they probably could get away with hosting them in the same year as the Winter Olympics.

  15. Of course he is but for UK Athletics I can't really see the justification now that Birmingham has been revamped - I doubt the one Diamond League event a year pays that bill.

    Obviously a shame in terms of whether it would then be available for any future London Olympic Games but it's probably not a done deal that it would be used in the way it was in 2012 anyway given the downsizing since.    And it's very rare "legacy" plans seems to include the possibility of reusing venues in a future Olympic bid.

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