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Brekkie Boy

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  1. This seems to be an absolute flop.   Looking at the schedule the games seem significantly scaled back this year and even though they have a deal with the EBU, which on paper gives it free to air coverage on the continents biggest PSBs, most aren't bothering to even show it.   The BBC hasn't even mentioned it's happening on it's website, never mind put any coverage on the iPlayer or TV, prioritising the grass court Wimbledon build up tournaments instead (and rightly so).   

    Live coverage is on europeangames.tv, which is an excellently set up service from Eurovision Sports with multiple live streams, content on demand and a really good schedule guide - it is much more user friendly than what Discovery+ put out for the Olypics and free to use with no sign up required.   Not sure if they have an app that you can view it on on Smart TVs though and there doesn't appear to be any YouTube streams this time.

  2. On 6/1/2023 at 8:53 PM, AustralianFan said:

    Brisbane was voted as the 2032 Host in a landslide just over two years later at the postponed the Tokyo Games in July 2021.

    You can't win by a landslide in a vote with just one candidate.  That's how corrupt dictatorships work.   A "new norm" doesn't mean it's the right process.

    As I've said before Brisbane could be an excellent venue and I think it's good for the Olympics to scale down and possibly show that smaller cities have a chance, but anyone following the supposed bidding process knew their was other interest, especially post-covid, and that many other cities were taken by surprise with the speed in which the IOC made that decision.

     

    Even if everything was technically above board it's a process that felt like it wasn't, and just the latest in a long line of catastrophes under Bach's leadership.   The sooner he is gone, the better.

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  3. Seems the last venue remaining which hosted the Cardiff 1958 games is set to be demolished, with the Maindy Velodrome likely to be sacrificed for an expansion of a high school, but a new track, presumably up to modern standards, to be built in Cardiff bay.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65348129

     

    Suspect though that many cities who've hosted the games have little remaining of them considering the temporary nature of many of the venues.

  4. Do we even know who is broadcasting them?   Was a report last year that a deal had been done with the EBU which would see it get PSB coverage on the likes of the BBC, France TV etc. but there is no indication they'll be screening them and a subsequent report names MediaPro as striking a deal to be the host broadcaster and distribute the event.

    https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/european-games-ebu-tv-rights-eurovision-sport-poland-2023-27/?zephr_sso_ott=8gEoWk

    https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1134518/european-games-television

  5. The trouble is the IOC would probably not keep such a plan around long enough to get to the second cycle of the hosts.

    I think as things are now that they've dropped any pretence of a transparent bidding process they should probably seek to lock in 2030, 2034 and even 2038 probably out of a pool of former hosts, but I think it would be foolish to look much further ahead yet and it is still important that the IOC doesn't block out potential new hosts - there are certainly a few who though new to the Olympics wouldn't be new to hosting Winter sports events.

     

    I do think the sensible compromise for both the summer and winter games to slash bidding costs and encourage both new and former hosts to bid is to award on a two episode cycle, perhaps even with the caveat that for the Winter Games at least one of those two games would go to a former host.

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  6. It's as if the plan really should be put together before the games are awarded.  Although the final plan is never the final plan at least an open bidding process enables alot of the issues to be raised before the games are awarded, even if they're not rectified.

     

    As for the Gabba - as much as the games need scaling back a 50k Olympic Stadium is very much cut price - 65k sounds more reasonable, and it seems like Brisbane could probably sustain a 55k or so stadium post-games too.    Always though slightly an issue when you've an existing stadia in the city rather than the luxury of building a new one in the centre of the Olympic Park - kind of makes the venue feels a bit disconnected from the rest, but ultimately once the show gets going that doesn't matter hugely.

     

    Still struggling to get excited for these games in the way as an innocent teenager I always knew Sydney would be a superb venue.   As much as the games needs to not limit itself to the big international cities when they're overlooking the biggest two cities in a country the size of Australia there is always going to be a danger they might end up being third rate.    I guess that's the point though - Brisbane wants to stand out internationally in the way Melbourne and Sydney do rather than be in their shadow so it'll be interesting to see whether these games achieve that long term or end up as a costly leaving present for Coates paid for by Queenslanders for generations.   At the moment though it's feeling a bit Atlanta-esque.

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  7. This is where the current behind closed doors bidding process is an absolute failure.   No bidding process is perfect and all are open to corruption, but for decades we had a cycle that essentially worked of the host city being selected around 7 years before the games and one process being worked on at a time.

    As mentioned above they were so focused on inexplicably giving the 2032 games to Brisbane without a bidding process (despite wide interest) that 2030 was overlooked completely.   Of the options supposedly on the table Salt Lake City is probably the safest bet - not overly keen on back to back summer and winter games in one country but would rather see the games in the US than a third Asian games in four cycles, as much as I'd like to see Sapporo host.

  8. I wouldn't be so sure about that.  Nobody but Brisbane seemed to know the 2032 bidding process had started when they were announced.

    Also have to wonder whether such a long lead time between the host being announced and staging the games is a good idea.   The actual cost of course always comes in significantly above the cost at the time they bid - partly due to inflation, partly due to other issues.   An extra 4 years or so on the prep time is only going to add to that, and sometimes giving cities more time to prep actually just gives them more time to spend money, plus it can effectively mean any allocated land for related projects (i.e. the Olympic Village) has to go an extra few years before it starts earning any money back.

     

  9. There is something that just feels a bid more laid back and relaxed about them - was the same in Glasgow too.   Perhaps just so little expectation around them, unlike the IOC backed European Games which pretty much felt like they had flopped before they even got started.

    Ideally they'd sort their act out and join forces for a proper Eurolympics, but if not I think if the European Championships can get a more permanent commitment from athletics and swimming they could exist longer term.

    Would love a Winter version too.

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