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Brekkie Boy

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  1. Well that happened.

    An event on this scale just goes by unnoticed without the major Olympic sports being there in full, plus crucially free to air coverage. For the first couple of days I did go to the effort of finding some stuff on BT Sport or watching stuff via the Youtube app, but the novelty faded fast.

    That said I'm glad Britain performed well, even without athletics, cycling and rowing properly represented.

  2. I really hope that they sells it on. I actually think it should be decided by law how exclusive rights should be sold. And that should be for one country at time! How can one Company buy for Whole Europe!!! its absurd I think. As one point out it is very different what the countries want to see.

    This is the first real challenge when it comes to sports rights and I hope at least one broadcaster in one country does push the issue. The EBU can bit collectively (and indeed did for many years), and in more recent times for the countries outside the big five the rights have been on sold to an agency, but then they were sold on in a country by country basis.

    Not even the biggest channels have a chance if the rights are sold collectively - and indeed in this case behind closed doors it seems. It's one thing organisations renewing rights with their existing partners without putting them out to tender but I think it's pretty bad form to sign them away without giving the existing rights holders the opportunity to bid.

  3. I'm far less worried about this than I would be had it been Sky or BT snapping up the rights. (As the Tory policy, they like to **** over the BBC and help Sky as much as possible)

    Eurosport is a long standing player in the Olympic market and I really do think this deal is more about them protecting their main portfolio - Olympic sports outside of the Olympics - by taking control of this Olympic channel. Had it developed the way the IOC were planning they'd have had a major new competitor in the market.

    As for the games themselves I really do think Eurosport will be looking to on-sell the rights where possible - suspect there is far more value in doing that than in trying to recoup it through advertising. There is the question of how much - 200 hours of the summer games and 100 hours of the Winter Games is roughly what we're used to on BBC1/BBC2, but if that is all that was offered it would be setting their coverage back 20 years. There needs to be a little bit more to please all sides - I'd say 6-8 streams for the BBC, with Eurosport having everything else. The BBC also has a potential sweatener in opening up the 2016-20 games to British Eurosport too.

    My main fear isn't what Eurosport will do, but how BBC Sport will react. In recent years they've been quite happy to give up rights and become a minor party at the rights table, something which doesn't sit well with fans of their respective sports (F1 and Golf). I hope they do fight for as much as Eurosport is willing to give away, rather than just be happy to snap up the crumbs at a discount price.

  4. Is Spain still broke though? Agree though if they're still serious about the Olympics and think they have most the venues in place it would be a wise move for Madrid. Suspect though they've missed their Olympic chance for now - my heart says Paris for 2024 and I think that would put a potential Madrid Olympics back to at least 2036.

  5. Really hope all those journalists who slag off the BBC every time they send a couple of hundred staff to the Olympics are watching these Euro Games - or perhaps not watching is the right expression.

    BT Sport have gone to pretty much zero effort, simply broadcasting the host feeds with no presenters, commentators or interviewers of their own. There is the odd pre-packaged interview to fill a bit of time, but barely anything. And thanks to the way BT is distributed for me it's easier just to call up the Youtube channel for the live coverage - I've watched a bit here and there, but with little coverage in the media at all it's actually quite difficult to curate your own viewing to catch the moments you want to catch.

    Also after being able to watch practically every event live at London 2012 and Glasgow 2014 the coverage of Baku seems quite limited. There never seems to be more than 4 live feeds coming out of Baku (and quite often 1 or 2 of them are "replays"), while surprisingly there doesn't seem to have been any coverage at all of the first rounds of the Boxing (live or pre-recorded), which is quite surprising considering Taekwondo and Karate has been covered in full and I'd have thought with all the focus being on one ring boxing it would be relatively easy to cover, plus I'm sure it's quite popular in that part of the world too.

  6. A two-hour opening ceremony - that's more like it! Didn't see much of it (and BT are rubbish at making stuff available On Demand) but was so glad to see something a bit different with the cauldron lighting considering in recent years so many have gone down the light small cauldron, set off some fireworks, light bigger cauldron route. OK, that is kind of what they did but it was far more spectacular than anything we've seen for some time.

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  7. Without the support of swimming and athletics, that already have major European Championships, these Games were always a joke. I wish they would just scrap it.

    And now there is also the European 'thing' being hosted by Glasgow and Berlin as well......

    Agree, The European Sport Championships have also had the foresight to use the federations links with the EBU to get the events out to as many people as possible, not hidden behind a paywall like the European Games will be in many countries.

    What would be great is if out of the Netherlands withdrawing that perhaps some agreement can be made moving forward for the events to merge, Not sure how many more events Glasgow could hold at relatively short notice if that were the case but my ideal scenario would be for the events to combine to become the second European Games in 2018, with athletics switched to Glasgow and in return Berlin getting the privelege of spending billions on a 2022 edition of the European Games. Alternatively more events split between the two cities in 2018 (surely between them they could host most events in existing venues) and then bidding opens for the next event in 2022.

    That would all rely though on all parties involved seeing common sense and being agreeable with each other. So it's never going to happen!!!

  8. I agree that it is in Western Asia (Anatolia, the Levant, Arabia and the Caucasus), rather than Central Asia. But Azerbaijan is still an Asian country geographically and again mostly Asian socially. (religion, politics, etc) It is certainly also influenced by European civilization as well, but so is Australia and no one would say Australia is in Europe.

    You obviously missed this years Eurovision Song Contest then where Australia were invited to compete. Interestingly too Israel are sending a team to the European Games.

    Here in the UK the coverage is on pay-TV so it's hardly anticipated, especially as the key marquee events where Britain do well are not properly represented at the games. Really hope that within a decade or so the much more promising European Sports Championships merge with this event to create an event which truly is a European Olympics.

    So glad though the Netherlands is the next host - IMO one of the key reasons for a European Games is to give major European cities which aren't big enough for the Olympics the chance to showcase their cities. I do hope though that whatever happens that the individual sports federations also retain their own European Championships alongside any involvement in either the European Games or the European Sports Championships so that cities not capable of hosting multi-sport events don't lose out.

    P.S. Meant to say though that the only exposure the games are getting is the Baku2015 ad airing quite frequently over the last few days - it appeared many times during the French Open finals, though really can't see many people deciding now that they're going to pop to Azerbaijan for the event with barely a weeks notice.

  9. Will be interesting to see how Seven use "hBB TV" as they call it - or Smart TV/Connected TV as the rest of the world call it. The BBC have used it very effectively, but they don't need to worry about generating revenue from it so can essentially just put the world feeds straight on there, adding their own commentary if they wish. Seven will somehouw have to monetise it, so either through advertising or as a subscription service.

  10. I don't think the CGs need to expand too much but a slight increase from 17 to 18 would be a nice controlled expansion, and I'd like to see Gymnastics and Cycling included in the core sports. Personally I'd drop Weightlifting and possibly Lawn Bowls and Badminton from the core sports line up too, though I guess Lawn Bowls is there as a non-Olympic sport. It would be nice to see one or two team parasports - something like Goalball or Sitting Volleyball.

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  11. Would be nice to see the games continue to expand - at the very least expanding the snowboarding (and ideally reworking Snowboard Cross so it's more like the Olympic version rather than just a 2 out of 3 run time trial).

    They also need to introduce Women's Sledge Hockey - they can't just keep pretending the mens version is "mixed".

  12. Where did you watch the 1994 ceremony?

    I think Beijing, London and Sochi have raised the stakes when it comes ceremonies. it would need to be quite a sophisticated temporary stadium to compete - there would need to be an aerial capability for lifting things and an underground area or raised platform. Given they'll have no roof ! in a winter venue - this isn't downtown Vancouver after all - I'm intrigued how on earth they'll do it to modern ceremony standards.

    That's what makes it all the more interesting. There is a risk of all these ceremonies being very much the same if they all just do what their predecessors do - it'll be a welcome change to see this go in a different direction.

    And the Lillehammer opening ceremony is the first video you'll find with a "Lillehammer 1994" search on Youtube.

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