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  1. Not a huge fan of the logo, but it is ok. I love the idea of showing the Andes in it! I hope they keep it somehow in the final logo. Too bad the BA 2004 bid used the condor, it would have been my favourite thing for a Santiago logo.
  2. Well, FINALLY!!! After cancelling twice and being beaten by Lima a few years ago, FINALLY we will host a major international event! As Roland said, it was bloody time! Although the PASO election may have influenced something (you can't discard anything in any Latin American sport organization), it always seemed to me that the BA bid didn't have future. Yes, they would had the infrastructure from the YOG, but I'm not even sure they are doing a lot about it. The situation in Argentina is still very complicated politically and economically so I wasn't sure they will commit with this bid... just like La Punta, I thought it was more a show than a serious intention.
  3. Originally, the Chilean government decided to cancel the Santiago 2023 bid given the proposal made by the local Olympic committee and the Ministry of Sparts was badly rated. That encouraged Buenos Aires to bid and be, until today, the only official proposal. However, the Chilean Congress requested President Michelle Bachelet to support the bid anyways, and according to press reports, this was accepted and the bid will be announced today. http://www.t13.cl/noticia/deportes13/polideportivo/chile-presentara-su-candidatura-a-los-juegos-panamericanos-2023 So, will it be Buenos Aires vs Santiago after all?
  4. Yay!!!! After so many years, finally we made it! I'm so happy and everyone here is so happy. For the first, we don't have to settle with the "at least we played really good". For me, this summarize everything: the Chilean team celebrating after Sánchez scored the winning penalty and, in the background, the memorial for the detained and tortured people in the National Stadium during the military dictatorship. The phrase says "A people without memory is a people with future".
  5. I'm really glad both teams will be in the finals. Chile has proven, despite some controversy, is one of the best teams in the continent at the moment and Argentina, although had some problems at the beggining, is finally starting to show all the talent of its players. I'm really nervous but I'm sure Chile is able to win on Saturday and finally get the championship we have been waiting for 99 years.
  6. In particular in this case, the main problem has been the political scandals of the last year which have hurted specially the Bachelet presidency. Bachelet was supposed to give a speech at the beggining (especially given she has been one of the main promoters of football activities and construction of new stadia) but she decided not to give it and have a low profile. For example, even though she has attended both of the Chile matches, she never appeared in the giant screen; in fact, I didn't know she was at the stadium with me until I saw the news the other day. Back to the football, this has been an interesting Cup. Some thrilling matches, Chile v Mexico, Argentina v Uruguay, Brazil v Colombia, and a lot of surprises. I haven't seen a outstanding team yet and I'm not sure who will be champion this year. Anything can happen. Today starts the last round of the First Stage of the Cup and no team is yet qualified nor eliminated. Group A: Chile 4p, Bolivia 4p, Mexico 2p, Ecuador 0p. Group B: Argentina 4p, Paraguay 4p, Uruguay 3p, Jamaica 0p Group C: Brazil, Peru, Colombia and Venezuela, all of them with 3p and 0 of goal difference.
  7. I was at the stadium and in general I liked the opening ceremony. I mean, it wasn't at the level of an Olympic opening ceremony but it was much better than other football opening ceremonies. I don't remember the one in Argentina 2011 but at least was much better than the circus of Brazil 2014 WC. To me, the only problem is that it was too slow... great that they showed the rapanui dances but I was missing something related to the mapuche people, especially considering all the graphics are based on the mapuche iconography. Regarding the organization, it was pretty good. I didn't have any problem to enter (i was at the queue for 20 minutes top and I got a decent seat). Only problem: the seats were dirty/discolored and it seemed like they didn't do anything to improve the National Stadium. it was a good idea of the government to bring the "green cards" and requesting the people to show it during the rival national anthem so it wasn't booed as traditionally happens. And we didn't have boring speeches... so thumbs up in general. Too bad the match wasn't really good (at least we won!) and it was extremely cold.
  8. I really really liked the logo. I'm surprised to find finally a logo with a meaning and not a vanguardist mix of non sense, just like in basically every single sport event in the past years. The main typography in "Chile 2015" seems odd to me... it's not bad itself but it doesn't make sense with the overall logo design. It should have used the geometric typography used in other texts (for example, banners). For those that don't understand the meaning of the visual design of the event, it is based in the geometric shapes used by the indigenous groups of Chile, especially the Mapuche people, in their clothes. The logo is based on the kultrung or cultrún, the Mapuche ceremonial drum, that has a cross design marking the 4 cardinal points. Over the kultrung are the classic 5-pointed star of the Chilean flag and a representation of the 8-pointed star, the Wüñelfe, symbol of the Mapuche people (representing Venus, the Morning Star, and the flower of the canelo, their sacred tree). Originally, the Chilean flag had its 5-pointed star with a smaller 8-pointed one inside representing the indigenous people; however, at the end it was too difficult to draw both stars and it was simplified. You can see other details of the logo, here I just loved the visual identity of the event.
  9. Are you done with your pointless Argentine-phobic rethoric? Can we discuss about the bid? Thanks. PS: And, just FYI, I'm probably moving to Argentina in a few months. Because, yes, I'm stupid and I don't know anything about their economic, political or social situation. I tried to go to Somalia but it was just so stable so I prefered to go to a real adventure....
  10. Oh, wow, Argentina is attacked by the Chilean government that can't even control their own people and the Spanish one that isn't even able to lower the unemployement below 20%. Funny that even the Brazilian governement supported Argentinean one (yes, they should also relatives of Argentina to understand that irrational hate is not a good argument)... because with few exceptions, most of the oil companies are state-owned. Argentina was reverting just an stupid decision made in the irrational wage of neoliberalism in the 90s. Before talking about YPF, you should read something beside opposition newspapers in Argentina or Spanish ones. A good example is this piece on The Guardian (of course, written by someone with relatives from Argentina): http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/apr/18/argentina-critics-oil-nationalise I've heard tons of times how every change in Latin American economies will 'upset' the foreign investors, how they will run if we change taxes and we will end in poverty. And you know? Foreign investment has even incresed... even in Argentina. Why? Because even with all that problems, they still earn a lot of money. In fact, it's just plain stupid what Spain is doing upseting Argentina when they are the ones that can lose: Argentina can cut anytime their supply of soja, which represents almost 50% of the Spanish market, or start expropiating several companies like BBVA or Banco Santander; none of those ideas would be 'good' for a governement already in crisis. Argentina is free to choose their own economic and political model, whether we like it or not, and certainly Cristina Fernández is more worried about how to sustain the industrial growth of Argentina than hosting Olympic Games (something Spain should learn perhaps). To be honest, I don't like the protectionism and I prefer the free market economy I have -and I hate going to Buenos Aires and see how cellphones cost the triple than the ones in Santiago because they were produced in Tierra del Fuego instead of being imported from South Korea-... but Argentina is not the first nor the last country with protectionism. Brazil? China? Russia? South Korea, anyone? Is Argentina able to host the Young Games? I think they are, but only if their government is interested in them, exactly what didn't happen in the Copa América, which was an organizational nightmare. At this moment, I haven't seen gestures from the government yet so I'm not really sure if they will happen at the end. To be honest, I don't see sports as a priority for the Argentine gov.
  11. Yay! Now we will have between two or six years of Danny talking each day about how terrible is Argentina and how they have the worst economy in the world. Yes, Argentina's INDEK is a chaos and inflation is really high, but that doesn't say they are in crisis and being unable to pull a good event. I'm worried that the bid could be just the idea of Mauricio Macri (mayor of Buenos Aires) who has showed is unable to do at least one good single thing. I hope the Argentine government gets involved to pull a nice bid... working just on a local level will be an embarrasing nightmare. Agree. Monumental Stadium should be totally renovated. It was a shame that it didn't happen with Copa America (only used at the final match).
  12. ¡Feliz Navidad para todos!

  13. First, the Copa Sudamericana. Now, defeating UC at their home... closer to the Double Championship. Thanks Universidad de Chile for everthing!

    1. deawebo


      felicidades universidad de chile! :D

    2. KRATK
  14. Uruguay 4-0 Chile. I think we should move to OFC to stop these disgraceful moments

    1. intoronto


      one blowout loss to the defending world cup bronze medalist is not bad. It happens ask Turkey.

    2. KRATK


      Being defeated by Venezuela; then 4-1 to Argentina and then 4-0 to Uruguay. And playing terrible... that's the problem.

    3. intoronto


      Oh I didn't realize the previous results.

  15. Happy birthday Chile!

    1. DannyelBrazil


      Felicitaciones al pueblo hermano de Chile!

    2. KRATK
  16. Chile must change. No more repression, no more government stupidity. ¡Educación pública, libre y gratis para todos los chilenos!

  17. Sure, because Latin America is a Far Eastern region...
  18. I think that Argentina dreaming about hosting the World Cup at this moment is a reaaaally bad joke. They have just hosted the worst Copa América in the past years... the stadiums weren't the problems: it was the organization. They couldn't manage the ticket selling, the press, the accommodations, the broadcasting, etc, etc...
  19. For sure, Chile won't get the Olympics soon, especially considering the small coverage of the winter sports for most of the population. Although the ski centers are less than 40kms away, most of the people of Santiago don't visit them. So, a potential Chilean bid in 2022 would be more about awareness of the city and about the winter sports in the country. In any case, I would say a WOG in Chile would be more interesting. Santiago itself has more population than whole New Zealand and better ski centers. I think South America has a great potential to increase the participation in Winter Olympics... not only Chile, but also nearby Argentina and Brazil (most of the people currently at the ski resorts are from Brazil). Of course, we must start developing the winter sports before getting the Olympics. I know, but this is something "amateur", more about an awareness campaign than a real bidding intention. Most of those athletes in fact are currently training in Santiago, Bariloche or other places. In fact, in past years the first stages of the FIS Snowboard World Cup has taken place in Santiago and Chapelco, in early september. Certainly, a potential Southern Hemisphere bid should have some schedule problems, but I don't think it something a really good bid can't solve.
  20. This is an interesting piece of news I read today in one of the most influential Chilean magazines. The idea has no more background that any of my GamesBids contest proposal, but this is another step to put the idea of a Santiago Winter Olympic bid in discussion. This week, a simple but striking sticker appeared in several cars in the capital, consisting solely of the Olympic logo and the phrase "Santiago 2022." Behind these mysterious adhesives is the architect Federico Sanchez and the young designer Juan Carlos Labarca, which are fine-tuning the last details to officially launch the campaign for Santiago to host the Winter Olympics 2022. The initiative, born as the project title of Labarca at Diego Portales University, has as main objective to transform the capital into a sustainable city, thereby increasing their chances of Olympic Committee designates as the first South American host to organize the event. For that, among other initiatives, they think to call companies to adopt environmental measures and promoting the creation of new green areas and processing plants for household waste. http://www.quepasa.cl/articulo/ojos-de-la-llave/2011/07/17-6187-9-una-campana-olimpica-de-federico-sanchez.shtml
  21. Depressed. First, Chile eliminated and then a killing spree in my subway station

  22. Three halves? What's next? FIFA allowing players to wear burqa? Or be naked? (although I'm not totally against that proposal ^^ ) This is becoming insane... you can't start changing the rules of the sport just because you had the GREAT idea of playing in the middle of the desert...
  23. Today I visited the Olympic Museum in Lausanne :D and bought a London 2012 cap, haha

  24. Ready for Berlin :)

  25. One year after the 5th largest earthquake in history... sth I will never forget

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