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  1. The seating capacity for the Aquatics venue and the Veledrome needs to expand. Both venues will need to be retrofitted to fit the new seating capacities. And is that possible?
  2. Fern Hill. Not many are following them anyways. Their petition doesn't have a lot of signatures.
  3. I'm just saying what I've been told and what I'm hearing through others who are getting information. I previously said there would be an announcement September 8th. Today I then find out from people in the press, a Press Conference has been called by John Tory and Kathleen Wynne, Both have had many meetings since the Pan Am Games finished about TO2024. Tory has had quite the busy week with his consultations and meetings with city councillors, business leaders, union leaders and many others to help with his decision. How much longer will he take? Will he announce right on September 15th? Or will he announce a week before the deadline? Anyways, the point I'm making is he's already made up his mind, he's great with his poker face but we all know if he wasn't going to sign off on the letter he would have made that public already.
  4. Press conference has been called for 10am from Queens Park in Toronto with Mayor Tory and Premiere Wynne. All signs are pointing to the official announcement of a bid launch. If the city was going to not join the announcement would have came over the weekend.
  5. http://www.cbc.ca/video/news/audioplayer.html?clipid=2674910602
  6. I highly doubt the COC would do that again to Toronto. It was kind of shady but considering it's 14 years later, the COC is focused on bringing a Summer Olympics to the country before a winter.
  7. The leader of the NOTO2024 campaign says according to his source. I also heard from another person supposedly in the know the same date. I also found out the Toronto Olympic Organizing committee from 2008 was formally dissolved recently with Industry Canada which is kind of odd. It makes one believe the reasoning is to clean the slate to restart up for 2024.
  8. Tory will launch the bid on Tuesday September 8th
  9. Toronto's bid has been trademarked before a decision is announced. Toronto 2024, Toronto 2024 Olympic Bid and TO2024 are trademarked with the Canadian Intellectual Property Office.
  10. John Tory focused on Toronto Olympic bid despite council detractorsLos Angeles could formalize its bid on TuesdayCBC News Posted: Sep 01, 2015 12:51 PM ET Last Updated: Sep 01, 2015 3:49 PM ET John Tory is pushing ahead with meetings about a potential Toronto Olympic bid, even as some on his council vow to oppose it. (Darren Calabrese/The Canadian Press) Olympic Bid? 8:24 58 shares Facebook Twitter Reddit Google Share Email Related Stories 2024 Olympics: Los Angeles city council votes to pursue bid Milton Mayor encourages Toronto Olympic Bid Toronto councillors cooling on 2024 Olympic bid Mayor John Tory says he's spoken with the prime minister and the premier about Toronto's potential bid for the 2024 Summer Olympics, even as councillors in a potential rival city, Los Angeles, vote on whether to submit a bid. To start the bid process, Tory would would have to submit a letter to the International Olympic Committee (IOC) expressing Toronto's interest in hosting the Games. While some councillors are skeptical of a proposed bid, Tory is mulling the idea and is still gathering information. Toronto councillors cooling on 2024 Olympic bid "I hope to be in a position … to have a reasonably complete summary of all that information at my disposal when it comes time to make a decision on whether to submit a letter or not," Tory said. Tory, speaking with reporters Tuesday, said he spoke with Prime Minister Stephen Harper about a potential Olympic bid in the lead-up to this summer's Pan and Parapan Am Games. He said he hopes to discuss the topic with the other federal party leaders, Tom Mulcair and Justin Trudeau, as the city will need to rely on whoever wins the federal election. Tory also said city council will get a chance to debate the idea and vote on whether or not to support a bid. That bid alone could cost the city $50-$60 million, according to a city feasibility report published last year. The budget for the Games — which in Toronto's case could include a brand new stadium — would cost billions. Los Angeles, whose council will vote Tuesday on whether or not to bid for the Games, put forward a $4.1-billion proposal. Other potential rivals include a joint bid from Rome and Paris, as well as Budapest, Hungary and Hamburg, Germany. Councillors stake positions on Games Tory said most of his meetings about the Olympic bid remain informal at this point, though he has also met with Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne on the matter and plans to meet with union, business and youth leaders this week to get their opinions on the Games. The problem with Olympics … is that you can't predict the cost overruns. - Coun. John Campbell There hasn't been a major debate about a potential Games bid at Toronto city council, but that hasn't stopped several councillors from staking positions. Coun. Glenn De Baeremaeker said he supports an Olympic bid because of what it could mean for infrastructure investment in the city LISTEN | Toronto councillors square off on Olympic bid The Olympics, and other similar events, are "a catalyst for major infrastructure projects and city building projects," he told CBC Radio's Metro Morning. De Baeremaeker said he's confident Toronto can learn from successful host cities, like Vancouver, and deliver a Games on budget. But Coun. John Campbell, who called the Olympic idea "folly," said hosting the mega-sporting event is too risky for the city. "The problem with Olympics … is that you can't predict the cost overruns," he said. Campbell said he'd "have to see some pretty solid numbers," from other governments and corporate sponsors before backing a bid, and even then he's concerned Torontonians would be on the hook for a huge percentage of the costs. Mississauga to debate Toronto bid next week Mississauga Mayor Bonnie Crombie, meanwhile, said in a statement her city will not support a Toronto bid until studying a "comprehensive business case." Crombie said Mississauga city council is set to debate the issue on Sept. 9. "Hosting the Olympics is an enormous responsibility which will have lasting implications for communities across the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area — long after the games have concluded. I need to know what those implications will be for Mississauga." Gord Krantz, the Town of Milton's mayor, said his town is ready to welcome an Olympic crowd. The town is home the Mattamy National Cycling Centre, which features a brand new velodrome that was one of the most popular venues during the Pan and Parapan Am Games. Tory wants private sector to pay for Olympic bid With a Sept. 15 deadline looming, Mayor John Tory continues to do his homework on the viability of an Olympic bid. Share on Facebook CHRIS YOUNG / THE CANADIAN PRESS Toronto Mayor John Tory is searching for a corporate sponsor to cover the cost of an Olympic bid. By: Betsy Powell City Hall Bureau, Published on Tue Sep 01 2015 Mayor John Tory says he is asking private sector leaders to “step up” with funding if they want Toronto to mount a bid to host the 2024 Summer Olympics. “I believe that if there is to be one (a bid) it should be largely financed by the private sector,” Tory said Tuesday. “That’s been done elsewhere and could be done here if there’s the will and interest in doing so.” Toronto has until Sept. 15 to submit a letter to the International Olympic Committee (IOC) indicating that the city is interested in joining the bidding process. Paris, Hamburg, Budapest and Rome have already entered the competition. On Tuesday, Los Angeles city council voted 15-0 to green light a bid. That city previously hosted the Olympics in 1932 and 1984. Tory stressed he has not yet made up his mind but continues to canvass a wide variety of opinions from leaders in labor and business and the non-profit sector as well as representatives from the sports industry and past civic leaders. Tory said he is trying to pin down exactly how much a bid would cost. A consultant report prepared for the city estimated it would run between $50 million and $60 million, though the IOC has announced rule changes since the report was prepared in 2013. Sports executive Casey Wasserman, who is leading the Los Angeles’ bid for the 2024 Summer Games, has said private donors have pledged $35 million U.S. to fund that city’s bid, the Los Angeles Times reports. Tory said Tuesday he has had a preliminary discussion with Premier Kathleen Wynne on a bid but it’s premature to comment. He also intends to talk to the leaders of the three federal parties on the campaign trail to gauge their opinions. “If they said to me ‘Well no, absolutely not, I can tell you that no matter what happens if we win we’re not going to be interested in this’, that’s obviously very relevant to my own deliberation.” Tory said he is also paying close attention to what the city’s 44 councillors are thinking. All seven members of the budget committee are either lukewarm or against a bid citing the exorbitant costs of hosting an Olympics which have a legacy of cost overruns. “The concerns about finance are on my mind too,” he said at the launch for the United Way’s annual fundraising drive. Ultimately, he added, a final decision on a bid will be up to council, “so obviously it’s on my radar screen to be seeing and trying to determine . . . whether there’s support for that or not.” The IOC will pick a host city on Sept. 15, 2017.
  11. The mayor had a press conference today to talk about some issues which includes the Olympic bid. He says he hasn't made up his mind yet and we shouldn't believe the press that are saying he's ready with a pen in his hand to sign off on the letter right now. He will be meeting with several other people and organizations in the coming weeks to gather all the information he needs about this bid. He also said the Pan Am committee will be releasing information in the beginning of September. He says he has supported Toronto's past bids for '96 and '08. We probably won't get an answer until close to the deadline. He obviously wants to demonstrate to the public he is going to utilize all the time he has to analyze info and get in as much meetings as he can. I still feel Toronto will definitely be bidding. Video: http://www.cp24.com/video#678801 Start it from 19:24
  12. Tory meets with Olympic committee boss about possible bid 23 By Don Peat, City Hall Bureau Chief First posted: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 07:09 PM EDT TORONTO - Mayor John Tory met with the head of the Canadian Olympic Committee Tuesday for a briefing on the 2024 bid process, the Sun has learned. Tory met privately at City Hall with COC president Marcel Aubut and Bob Richardson, the chief operating officer of Toronto’s 2008 Olympic bid. But Tory’s office says he still hasn’t made up his mind on whether Toronto should bid to host the 2024 Summer Olympics. Last month, Aubut publicly vowed to push for a Toronto Olympic bid and said he was “confident” Tory would be able to get councillors on side. As the clock ticks toward the Sept. 15 deadline for cities to express an interest to the International Olympic Committee (IOC) in bidding on the 2024 games, Tory’s office confirmed the mayor is still doing his homework. “The mayor was getting briefed on the changes to the bid process recently announced by the IOC as well as background on previous bid processes,” Tory’s spokesman Amanda Galbraith said Tuesday. “This is part of the consultation and due diligence the mayor committed to undertake.” Galbraith stressed Tory has not made a decision on whether or not Toronto should bid on the Olympics for the third time. “Toronto is in the midst of hosting the Parapan Am Games — part of the largest sporting event in Canadian history — he is focused on their success,” she said. “Any further discussion about a possible Olympic bid would take place after the close of these games.” Richardson — who served as co-chair of Tory’s successful 2014 mayoral election campaign — described the meeting as a straightforward, informational meeting about how the bid process works now and how it worked during the 2008 bid. Despite his involvement in the failed 2008 Olympic bid, Richardson said he hasn’t decided yet whether he’ll be involved in a possible 2024 bid. “If it make sense to (bid), I would obviously be supportive, but there is still a lot of homework to do before you come up with making those sort of decisions,” he said. COC spokesman Carl Vallee said Aubut is making good on his pledge to “use the full power of his office to lead and advocate Toronto’s candidacy to host the 2024 Olympic Games.” “Toronto could truly benefit from this new era for bidding and hosting the Olympic Games,” Vallee said. “The new IOC model under Olympic Agenda 2020 encourages — in a financially sustainable way — the use of existing facilities in communities surrounding the host city.”
  13. Not surprised at all that L.A. will be stepping in. I've always thought L.A. was too soon after hosting in 1984 or is this really not a problem anymore? Yeah, totally in agreement
  14. A lot of articles are stating that as well. There seems to be a fail of mentioning Europe's support.
  15. Don’t abandon Toronto’s Olympic dream: Editorial Toronto’s chances of hosting the summer Olympics have never been better — if we still dream of Olympic glory the time to act is now. Share on Facebook Kevin Frayer / CP Commuter train adorned with slogan for Toronto's bid for the 2008 Olympics at Union Station in Toronto in 2001. Published on Tue Jul 28 2015 Toronto has seven weeks to answer a simple question: Do we still want it? This city boldly sought the 1996 Summer Olympics, when Atlanta won the right to host, and then the 2008 Games that went to Beijing. Now it has until Sept. 15 to decide whether it should bid for the 2024 event – officially the Games of the XXXIII Olympiad. Do we still care? Do we still aspire to be an Olympic city? There’s compelling evidence that the answer is “yes,” including the results of a Forum Research poll carried out on Sunday. And if that’s the case, it’s vital that Toronto join the race for the 2024 Olympics and submit a letter of interest before the deadline. The ideal way forward would be to convene a special meeting of city council on this issue, shortly after Labour Day, and press for a strong vote of support. Details such as the extent of necessary new construction, anticipated costs, who pays, and who gets stuck with any overruns, can all be worked out later. A comprehensive cost-benefit analysis still lies ahead. And Toronto will have plenty of time to withdraw if hosting proves too great a burden. That’s for the future. Right now, the city has a few short weeks to decide if it’s in or out of the contest. And Toronto’s odds of finishing first have never been better. Its chances received a big boost on Monday when Boston’s bid flamed out. Officials in Beantown announced they were in no position to cover any cost overruns. That leaves Paris, Rome, Budapest and Hamburg still in the running. But a strong case can be made that it’s North America’s turn to host. The Summer Olympics haven’t been held on this continent since Atlanta in 1996; by 2024 they will have been absent for almost three decades. That puts a potential Toronto bid in a highly favourable light. So does the city’s extraordinary success in hosting the 2015 Pan American Games. Toronto showed the world how effectively it can run a huge, international, multi-sport competition. Delivered on time and on budget, to enthusiastic crowds cheering outstanding athletic performances, the Pan Am Games were a revelation. And members of the International Olympic Committee took notice. Hosting the 2024 Summer Games would serve Toronto well by revitalizing its empty Port Lands, boosting the local economy, and highlighting to the world all that this amazing city has to offer. But Toronto would be good for the Olympics, too. Recent changes in IOC policy have put new emphasis on promoting diversity and resisting discrimination, including on grounds of sexual orientation. Toronto’s international reputation as a remarkably tolerant and welcoming place — one of the most multicultural on the planet — would serve that commitment well. And the 2024 Olympics could be run on a more practical budget than some past games. The IOC recently declared itself open to more affordable bids after the soaring cost of playing host noticeably discouraged some worthwhile cities. The race for the 2022 Winter Olympics, for example, has dwindled to just two candidates: Beijing and Almaty, in Kazakhstan. The winner is to be announced on Friday. It’s understandable that Mayor John Tory (open John Tory's policard) wants to avoid being “stampeded” into a bid. But the calendar’s inexorable reality demands a decision soon. And it would be a shame to abandon Toronto’s Olympic dream just as it comes within reach.
  16. http://globalnews.ca/video/2138199/why-toronto-should-bid-for-the-2024-olympic-games
  17. Yeah we won't know until a bid is submitted. There has been no mention of a referendum up to now.
  18. An Expo bid would be dead in the water, a non-starter. The reason being the Canadian government removed its membership from the BIE
  19. Well considering Hamburg is going up against two other European candidates may lead to early vote splitting which could leave it off the ballot after the 2nd round. I'm not saying that Hamburg deserves to be overlooked, it could easily be Rome that suffers a 2nd round exit. But with the way the race is shaping one automatically gravitates towards Paris and Rome before Hamburg. I agree that Los Angeles can throw a wrench into this especially for Toronto. But I firmly believe LA would be the first city dropped for the reasons I've listed earlier. Toronto was able to prove they are able to host an extremely successful hassle free games for the athletes and the citizens of Toronto. This was something that was lacking on their resume the last time they bid. They built new sports venues in time and under budget. The games have just concluded to great fanfare and positive reviews from high ranking sport officials and IOC members. This is something that Toronto will utilize to its benefit. I'm not saying Paris and Rome can't do it. I'm just saying these games are very recent and will work in Toronto's favour. They're the city with the most recent experience. Toronto would be a safe choice (as would Paris), a city that will push forward Agenda 2020 in a region that is somewhat skeptical of the IOC's practices, capable of planning and constructing venues and other related projects on time and budget. Toronto is a world city and will ultimately move up to the next tier. They will definitely offer an urbanized waterfront games that would transform a large section of under utilized land (brownfields) in downtown Toronto and help propel this city to that next level. Can the city compete toe-to-toe with the declared big guns here? Yes! That doesn't mean I'm going to go all fanatic and claim Toronto is above and beyond the rest and will win this easily. Nor will I settle for comments stating there's no chance.
  20. Some new information given out in this article. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/supporters-of-toronto-olympic-bid-face-tight-deadline/article25729142/ Supporters of Toronto Olympic bid face tight deadline JANE TABER, OLIVER MOORE AND OLIVER SACHGAU TORONTO — The Globe and Mail Published Tuesday, Jul. 28, 2015 3:00AM EDTLast updated Tuesday, Jul. 28, 2015 4:56AM EDT John Bitove and Bob Richardson had breakfast at the Park Hyatt Toronto last Thursday. Few in the hotel’s tony restaurant would have realized the significance of the meeting between the two well-connected and civic-minded businessmen just as the successful Pan Am Games were coming to a close. But it was a sure sign of the serious thinking taking place about Toronto possibly launching a bid for the 2024 Olympics. 2015 pan am games With the Pan Am Games over, let the debate begin Video Video: Will Toronto put in a bid to host the Olympics? Mr. Bitove was the CEO of Toronto’s unsuccessful bid for the 2008 Olympics, which were awarded to Beijing. Mr. Richardson was also a key member of that bid and more recently played a major role in bringing the Pan Am Games to the city. He is also close to Toronto Mayor John Tory, having co-chaired his successful mayoralty campaign. The triumph of the Pan Am Games – a record medal haul for Canada, better-than-expected ticket sales, great sports venues, fabulous weather and not-so-much gridlock – has provided the impetus for renewed talk of Toronto trying to land the biggest sporting event in the world. But the timelines are tight. Mr. Tory must submit a letter of interest to the International Olympic Committee by Sept. 15, as must the Canadian Olympic Committee. The COC’s Marcel Aubut has said he is behind a Toronto bid. Meanwhile, some IOC members are already familiar with Toronto’s facilities and the city’s ability to run an international event. Between 12 and 15 IOC members from the Americas and Europe attended the Pan Am Games and were “extremely impressed,” according to a source – one of the key players supporting the bid. IOC president Thomas Bach was in Toronto twice for the Games, where he attended the opening ceremony, toured the new aquatic site and was “effusive” about the athletes village, the source said. Mr. Tory, however, is cautious. “Nobody’s being stampeded into anything here,” he said Monday. “This is a serious, rational decision that has to be made.” The letter of interest could be withdrawn before a more formal bid is sent to the IOC in January. The formal bid requires support from the federal and provincial governments, and Mr. Tory would need to put it to a vote at city council. All levels of government endorsed Vancouver’s bid for the 2010 Winter Olympics and did the same for the Pan Am Games. So the framework is there, but “if governments don’t want to do it, then it’s not going anywhere,” the source said. Although the provincial government is focused on the upcoming Parapan Am Games (Aug. 7-15) and not commenting on a potential Olympic bid, Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne embraced the Pan Am Games. She adjusted her schedule to attend events – including water polo, swimming, beach volleyball and rhythmic gymnastics – with her grandchildren, visited athletes and awarded medals. As for the federal government, PMO spokesman Stephen Lecce said his office had not received any proposals but would review them on their merits if it did. Toronto would be bidding against Rome, Hamburg, Budapest and Paris. The real competition could be Los Angeles, said the source. Boston’s bid was dropped by the U.S. Olympic Committee Monday, paving the way for a bid from the California city, which is considered a very serious contender by Toronto officials. The winner will be selected in 2017. The price tag for a Toronto Olympics could be high. A formal bid costs $50-million to $60-million, and the Games could cost $3.3-billion to $6.9-billion, according to a January, 2014, City of Toronto feasibility study. But that price was calculated before the IOC announced a series of reforms late last year to make bids more affordable after some cities dropped their bids for the 2022 Winter Games because of the high costs. “This is not what we experienced before – not at all,” Mr. Aubut said in a news conference Sunday, referring to the reforms. “It’s totally new. … We will be the first player to use this [new system]. They are looking for a two-third reduction in bidding.” Despite the new sports venues for the Pan Am Games, more buildings would have to be constructed for the Olympics. For example, a new, bigger athletes village would have to be built – the Pan Am village is being converted into condos, and more than 10,000 athletes participated in the 2012 Olympics in London, compared with about 6,000 at the Toronto 2015 Games. The source said a new stadium would also be needed to accommodate 100,000 spectators for the opening ceremony and for the track events. Under the reforms, however, it may be possible to erect a temporary stadium that would not cost millions of dollars. There is more land available around Ontario Place – on the waterfront – and possibly around Downsview in the north end, said the source. Also, some of the events could be consolidated on the grounds of the Canadian National Exhibition. The IOC prefers a more compact footprint because it lowers security and transportation costs, according to the source.
  21. Hamburg is the 3rd choice out of the 3 European candidates. Do you honestly see it getting past the 2nd round? And another Olympics in Los Angeles, last one being in 1984, yeah ok! LA will be the first to be dropped especially after this fiasco with the USOC and their selection of Boston. If the IOC is set on going back to a previous host city then it will be Paris or Rome, definitely not Los Angeles. Do they plan on just going back to repeat host cities from now on? Or they could opt out of this trend and go to a brand new host city in the developed world that is more than capable of hosting. Toronto has the most recent experience out of all the candidates hosting a large scale multi-sport event. They will say, "Listen, we just pulled off the most successful Pan Am's in its history, these games ran very smoothly, no major problems. We dealt and overcame any traffic issues, we know what to do logistical wise. It's all in the city's planning books going forward now. The city also has never hosted the games. Support is here.
  22. On CP24 last night, John Tory said $150,000 deposit for sending the letter of intent will be paid by the Canadian Olympic Committee. The cost of a Toronto bid will be around $50-$60 million and he gave the impression it would be paid for by Corporate sponsors. Maybe Rogers? They would have a vested interest in making sure the city secures that stadium since they've been running after a NFL franchise.
  23. It's great to hear you've enjoyed your time working for TO2015. Yes, we definitely hit this out of the park. TO2015 broke Pan Am host records.
  24. I honestly think a Toronto bid can hold itself and make its way to a final ballot vote against any of the Euro cities vying for the prize. This isn't going to be a early exit like some are saying and comparing to the US bids from the 2012 and 2016 race. Toronto's bid will be solid, the experience from hosting the Pan Am's puts it in a better position then any of those American cities, plus, not being an American city and lying in the lucrative viewership timezone will work in its favour. The $$$ bounce backs will be quite generous. The games haven't been in North America since 1996, it's time to return back to this region.
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