dave199
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I'm shocked that a joint 3-way bid is actually going to happen. I'm having conflicting feelings on this. On one side, I'm thinking I would rather be greedy and bid solo with a chance to host it by ourselves. But on the other hand, I have a feeling that FIFA would award this 3-way bid which atleast would give Canada a hosting gig and possibly a brand new stadium.
Logistics may be challenging. I'd love to see their plan on that.
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I find it unrealistic the feds financially back both a Calgary 2026 Olympics and Canada 2026 World Cup. We're going to have to pick one to bid for. I can't wait to see how this unfolds.
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Toronto might go for 2026!
How serious is a Toronto Winter Olympics? It really does seem like an odd ball move and an uphill battle. Let's just wait for 2028.
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It would have been exciting to see Toronto enter the race but no one can fault John Tory for saying No at this time considering the tight time constraints. Had city council continued the study in 2014 instead of voting it down it would have been a different story now. Considering the city went through all this the past couple months, we can safely assume Toronto will be back for 2028.
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Toronto NOT bidding for 2024:
Guess we'll come back here in the run up to 2028! Allez Paris 2024!
Let's see how Los Angeles pans out. I still don't think they'll win but you never know. If LA comes back for 2028 they'll probably be considered the front runners as its due to come back to North America and they bid for 2024. Toronto will be a not too far second
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BREAKING: Announcement to be made by John Tory at a press conference at Nathan Phillips Square tomorrow morning at 9:30. Looks like it's all systems go for an Olympic bid.
A source to the Toronto Star is saying the answer will be a no.
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Don Peat @reporterdonpeat 17m17 minutes ago
John Tory announcement on Sunday? "Mayor Tory will make an announcement at Toronto City Hall's 50th anniversary celebration" #TOpoli
Let's see if this is true. Coming for a SunMedia reporter
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Leaked emails via the noto2024 website. Richardson and Tory have been accepting resumes for the bid committee team since august.
If there "is no bid team", why is @JohnTory sending resumes to @bobredelmn? Details: http://www.noto2024.ca/blog #topoli
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Liberals would partner with Toronto on Olympics: Justin Trudeau
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Aubut confirms commitment to Toronto. The COC is pursuing a Summer Olympics and won't allow a Calgary or Quebec City Winter Olympic bid interfere.
TORONTO SHOULD HAVE SPOTLIGHT ALONE
Should Toronto decide to bid for the 2024 Summer Games, Marcel Aubut says other Canadian cities interested in hosting a Winter Olympic Games should take a step back for the greater good.
Both Quebec City and Calgary are rumoured to be considering bids for 2026.
“It’s not possible anymore to have two cities bidding — one for summer and one for winter,” the Canadian Olympic Committee president said Tuesday. “This is just impossible. This is crazy. We have to get 100% focus on one. Not only the organizing committee, or the bid committee, but everybody in the country should be focused on one.”
If Canada splits time, energy and resources by going after two Olympic Games, Aubut warns it risks losing out on both.
“You don’t beat them with two cities — one in winter and one in summer trying to get the best of all of it,” he said. “You will never get anything ... It’s not only Toronto but it’s Canada, bidding for getting the Summer Games. We’ve had two Winter (Games) before. It’s time for the east part of the country and time for Toronto and time for summer sport.”
Montreal is the last Canadian city to host a Summer Olympics in 1976. Canada hosted the Winter Olympics in Calgary (1988) and Vancouver (2010.
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I would think gymnastics, at least artistic and trampoline, would be held in the Air Canada Centre along with basketball. Keep rhythmic gymnastics in the Direct Energy Centre. The biggest problem though venue wise is going to be the main stadium. What team needs an 80,000+ stadium in Toronto? Forget about the NFL too, that is unless the Buffalo Bills or Jacksonville Jaguars decide to pack up and move though with the new Bills ownership there's a renewed commitment to keeping them in Buffalo.
The Jays come to mind as permanent tenants of the new stadium. It's well known they want a new home, baseball purpose stadium with grass. It will obviously have to be re-purposed for baseball afterwards.
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Video of CBC interview with Marcel Aubut: Will Toronto make a bid to host 2024 Olympics?
Marcel Aubut, president of the Canadian Olympic Committee, speaks with CBC News Heather Hiscox, as the deadline looms
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I'm done believing these people who say they know everything. Lol. I honestly thought they would announce their decision today. Sorry everyone for posting rumors that didn't come to fruition.
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I highly doubt that most of them could be expanded to accommodate Olympic capacity requirements. Toronto would have to build quite a bit from scratch, similar to Rio for 2016. I don't doubt the ability of Toronto to do so, but I don't believe that the public would support the Olympics with all the necessary construction needed to be done. And right now, the IOC is taking consideration bringing down cost more than ever.
This article doesn't specify how much the Aquatic Centre can be expanded to but it does confirm it can be expanded from its 6,000 seat capacity.
Quote from a news article. The Aquatic Centre capacity can be expanded.
The shiny new Pan Am/Parapan Am Aquatic Centre and Field House is world-class and can expand its 6,000-seat capacity.
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I see two issues.
1) You've mostly listed the easy venues. I can make a comparable list for cities like Stockholm or Minneapolis that are simply too small to ever host the current bloated version of the Olympics. The issues Toronto hasn't figured out are the most important ones; the athletics stadium, aquatics center, a second big arena for gymnastics (I seriously doubt you could fit a 15,000 capacity arena in the convention center), etc.
2) The sporting federations are going to raise hell about the size and facilities of many of the Pan-American venues. The velodrome in Milton, for example, would likely be the smallest in the history of the Olympics. (I can't find data for all of the early Olympic velodromes.) Toronto is going to have a hard time convincing the sporting federations to vote for them with small venues in its suburbs.
I want the IOC to vote for a modest plan in a democratic, international city like Toronto. I just don't think they will. A project with 1) many temporary venues, and 2) many venues half the size of those in Beijing, London and Rio would seem to have little chance of winning a highly contested race.
Looking at the 2008 bid, Gymnastics was supposed to be in the Direct Energy Centre. I doubt things would change this time around. As for the seating capacity of some of the Pan Am facilities, I agree with you it will be a hard sell if they're kept at the current capacities. As I've mentioned earlier, the veledrome and Aquatics centre would need to be retrofitted. Realistically, I see another new Aquatic centre as part of this bid. The Scarborough Aquatic centre will be used for Water polo.
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Some information I'm getting from urbantoronto. One of the guys is quite trustworthy. And he's one of the people who mentioned that the bid would be announced Tuesday
Who told you about the Tuesday announcement?With a brand new administration, it's taken me almost a year to gain new contacts. I'm sure you'll understand that I'll provide news to UrbanToronto without outing who's tipping it. You're free to question whether those tips are trustworthy or not. Go back a few pages and you'll find that I laid out the timeline which is now coming to fruition.
and someone else from UT. Seems to talk like he/she knows what's going down.
This is just like the night before nominations cut off for the mayoral race. We all knew what Ford was going to do but the press played it like a bombshell...
The bid letter needs to be signed by four people: Aubut (yes), Tory (yes), Wynne(?) and feds (can't until after Oct 19 so will get a pass). Therefore the announcement tomorrow is either that bid is a go, or that Wynne would support a bid should the city choose to proceed (and then have a formal celebration announcement later this week). There's no way that the press conference will be anything other than on the bid, so if there is a non-Olympic reason given expect a placed question from the press that lets her signal approval.
Expect more of the "just an expression of interest" language etc...
Don't forget that this is really Bob Richardson's bid - he was the man behind telling Tory to run for mayor and is a major internal force in the Liberal party. He's the guy who recruited Kouvalis to the Tory team, and who has been leading the TO2024 bid since 2011. What you have here is a master class in politics played by grownups. -
And they are spreading a lot of lies lol. Quite pathetic if you ask me.
Fact is the following Pan Am Venues are good enough to be used:
-Caledon
-BMX
-Mountain biking
-Aquatics center (for synchro/diving)
-Pan Am Fields (field hockey)
-Rogers Center (can be split into two and used for two different arena sports)
-Velodrome (makes sense with Agenda 2020)
Probably the only new permanent build needed is the main stadium.
The seating capacity for the Aquatics venue and the Veledrome needs to expand. Both venues will need to be retrofitted to fit the new seating capacities. And is that possible?
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Who is the leader of NoTo2024? They seem to be in the shadows.
Fern Hill. Not many are following them anyways. Their petition doesn't have a lot of signatures.
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How certain are you its for the Olympics, it might be for something else?
I'm just saying what I've been told and what I'm hearing through others who are getting information. I previously said there would be an announcement September 8th. Today I then find out from people in the press, a Press Conference has been called by John Tory and Kathleen Wynne, Both have had many meetings since the Pan Am Games finished about TO2024. Tory has had quite the busy week with his consultations and meetings with city councillors, business leaders, union leaders and many others to help with his decision. How much longer will he take? Will he announce right on September 15th? Or will he announce a week before the deadline? Anyways, the point I'm making is he's already made up his mind, he's great with his poker face but we all know if he wasn't going to sign off on the letter he would have made that public already.
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Press conference has been called for 10am from Queens Park in Toronto with Mayor Tory and Premiere Wynne. All signs are pointing to the official announcement of a bid launch. If the city was going to not join the announcement would have came over the weekend.
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According to some snooping around on Twitter, Tory and Wynne have a meeting tomorrow morning and media availability at 10. Wonder if it has to do with a bid.
I heard the same thing too.
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I see that you didn't dare to try to challenge my points.
Now imagine this scenario that is probably going to happen.....Toronto bids, and once again fails to win....IOC once again feels sorry for Canada and awards Quebec City the 2026 Winter Games. Once again, Toronto has to be the scapegoat for another Canadian winter olympics.
I highly doubt the COC would do that again to Toronto. It was kind of shady but considering it's 14 years later, the COC is focused on bringing a Summer Olympics to the country before a winter.
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FIFA WC USA-Mexico-Canada 2026
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This does give us a reason to build a new stadium that can be used as the centre piece for a 2028 Olympics as the article stated. I imagine those groups who previously tried to secure an NFL team a couple years ago would go at it again if stadium plans begin. It's all speculation now.