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7 minutes ago, SkiFreak said:
Parade of Nations was disjointed, too logistically challenging. The finale was alright. When the use of the river was announced, they should've have done something of a combination of Disneyland's Fantasmic show combined with Athens' 2004 history parade.
It makes me hope that 2028 will see Disney get involved, because I know exactly how they would have done this ceremony in the old days. Less long boat parade probably.
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1 hour ago, Bear said:
Also - no boxing or pentathlon listed in the proposed sports OR the initial sports program will they be late additions or did they miss their chance at this point?
Boxing has a chance given how American centric the sport has been for probably the last hundred years...
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37 minutes ago, cfm Jeremie said:
LA28 proposes five additional sports for Olympic Games in 2028 (olympics.com)
Baseball-Softball
Cricket
Flag football
Cricket
Squash
No break dancing? Happy about that, always thought it to be a nutty "sport". But Squash? Seriously?
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On 7/18/2023 at 8:55 PM, Scotguy II said:
There seems to be only 3 realistic options here:
1. London hosts, but is there the enthusiasm and depends on what else is going on in the city around that time
2. A UK wide hosting with events in London, Manchester, Birmingham, Glasgow and maybe Belfast - however this might be a bit messy and how to market a UK games when one of the positive and unique things about the Commonwealth games is that the uk nations compete separately, so will be multiple country hosting technically.
3. Birmingham hosts again - will a back to back hosting be exciting enough, but saying that it is all about the sports and the athletes so really shouldn't matter if it's back to Brummie.
New Zealand is out. The country is a mess atm and the government will change in October, so even any 2034 research will be canned. A rugby world cup in 2030's/40's is what will interest NZ, as this will make more money and excite the population here more.
Canada might have an opportunity - Hamilton maybe, or somewhere like Winnipeg... But it'd be very tight and likely require a lot of venue re-use, more-so than perhaps warranted if there was a longer lead-in. India is a possibility, but a remote one. Caribbean games are out for facilities reasons as well... If one (or all) of the former Trucial States were ever to join the Commonwealth, they'd be frontrunners to host. Sadly not an option!
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Who hosts now? Canada?
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On 3/10/2023 at 10:30 AM, baron-pierreIV said:
/\/\ Yeah, but which countries would want to play in ANOTHER Arab country where you cannot even drink beer -- if this tandem is successful? After QATAR 2022, FIFA and the IOC would be total nitwits to give another of their tournaments to a muslim nation again.
Unlike Qatar, Morocco's system for buying beer is both long-standing and successful. You'll have no issues there unlike in Qatar because the King doesn't need to play to a religious base as much.
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Honestly? Terrible idea - and no chance it would happen today. Too much money in the flag-based merch and coverage,
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On 4/20/2022 at 5:18 PM, SportLightning said:
What about San Jose (Costa Rica), it would be fourth different country to be held in Central America.
Canada is likely a favourite to balance out the Latin-American heavy schedule, especially as the US doesn't seem to want to host. Important consideration in my opinion.
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When was the last time the US didn't make a World Cup for basketball?
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On 11/5/2022 at 5:11 AM, Scotguy II said:
It was on the news tonight... i will try and find the source. it is apparently a part of the current governments sports and culture plans going forward, to have like other countries a decade of sports events. They have been paying millions so far for consultants to look at FIFA WC 2036, Commonwealth Games 2034, Olympic Games 2036 and RWC 2037.
Of those... Commonwealth Games and RWC are probably the most in scale with NZ. Olympics and WC are a hard no unless Aus co-hosts the latter.
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Realistically, the likelihood of Calgary even bidding on 2034 just went up about 100-fold.
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14 hours ago, SportLightning said:
Germany might have a best chance of hosting it.
I honestly think the UK will pull it off. If only because of the possibility of the bad-PR factor from 1936, and the IOC not wanting that chance.
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23 hours ago, Guilga said:
Well, we have here a process to future games, so these might not be just for 2036 or specifically targeting that date; it was said that the projects are in very different stages of development after all.
With that said, and only listing the known bidders mentioned on the article:
BRITAIN: London or Birmingham or bust.
SOUTH KOREA: It would be just 18 years since PyeongChang, but it would be a summer games in Seoul, last hosting in 1988. It would go hand in hand, if you allow that pun, to go for 2036 with a more pacifist message.
EGYPT: It would be awesome to have games in Africa, but there is a autocracy breeding there, and does the country have what it takes? Of course, nothing that good management (or Saudi money) can´t resolve.
GERMANY: Could be a favorite, but does they actually want it from the IOC? Does Germany want a olympics 100 years after that time in Berlin? That remains to be seen.
INDIA: If it doesn´t fall into a Hindu teocracy, could work if they manage it well...and get past the shadow of the 2010 Commonwealth Games.
INDONESIA: Could be cool, but nope. Capital´s Sinking and New Capital isn´t built yet; Indonesia, focus on geting the new capital ready first before you add a Olympics at it.
MEXICO: Good luck. Can work with a good management, and that´s key to all developing countries trying to host.
QATAR: GOOD LUCK TO YA WITH THE IOC´S TIME FRAME REQUIREMENTS! Nothing that a good bribe can´t fix but come on, the IOC is not FIFA. They wouldn´t get away with a summer games in Qatar. AT ALL.
For me, my ranking is:
- UK: Safe option, even if you move it out of London. Almost too safe - but who knows? Likely by then we'll be either at the end of Charles' reign or already into Will and Kate's, but I think the Queen's spirit will probably loom strongly over the games, particularly if they're in London. Would be the obvious choice for me.
- Germany: Gets 2nd due to infrastructure, safety, and the ability and knowledge from previously hosting mega-events. Not my preferred choice, and I don't know if the IOC want it either - or the German people. If they don't... the bid is sunk.
- South Korea: Not the best choice, but certainly top 3-4. I personally think they should wait another decade after this (particularly to see if relations with the north warm, among other things), but they're not a terrible choice.
- Turkey: Better than most purely based on history and infrastructure. Human rights are a concern, but they're likely to be downplayed unless things change. If the IOC want a European-ish country that hasn't hosted before, they're the best choice.
- Egypt: Squeaks into the top 5 because its' an African country that's relatively developed. Relatively safe as well, and is a familiar destination for many.
- Qatar: I think the World Cup in a couple of weeks will sink them as an option for the Olympics. Especially because of their hotel room issue, and the huge issue with expected behavior from guests not matching their norms. But if they somehow did host, they could throw tons of money into it and make it work.
- Mexico: Safety is my biggest issue here. Followed by a lack of infrastructure suitable for the Olympics that doesn't need massive redevelopment or complete construction.
- India: No history of a similar sized event, and by the point the games will likely be awarded, the Commonwealth Games will have been over for nearly 20 years. While the heat is a concern, I'd argue politics is even more-so - and can they even afford the Olympics? I don't think so.
- Hungary: Politics is an issue here - especially with tension between Hungary and the rest of the EU. Also, I don't think they have the right infrastructure, and realistically don't have the money to build it.
- Indonesia: No real record of hosting major international events of a similar scale, and as you said, the bloody city isn't built yet.
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On 10/4/2022 at 4:00 PM, SportLightning said:
The 2025 Games isn't official yet, but it is expect for Gangwon, South Korea.
Surprised Japan wouldn't bid to be honest, but Gangwon seems fairly popular for major international winter events at the moment, and can hopefully ride the wave of a successful Youth Winter Olympics in 2024, especially if they use the venues they plan on using there, which are apparently left over from when they actually hosted the Winter Olympics.
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On 10/4/2022 at 4:01 PM, SportLightning said:
We only have two weeks to find out who will be the new host for the 2023 AFC Asian Cup.
At this point, I wouldn't doubt if it's Qatar, just because we still don't know how badly (or well) the World Cup is going to go, and the ME holds quite a bit of power within the fed at the moment. South Korea would be my 2nd choice.
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1 hour ago, SportLightning said:
So with Spain-Portugal-Ukraine bid would be difficult. I think Argentina-Uruguay-Chile-Paraguay might be awarded.
It does make it much more possible for the UK to host a future World Cup, if the Iberian-Ukrainian bid gets sunk due to Ukrainian involvement... Still baffles me England hasn't hosted since 1966.
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On 10/4/2022 at 10:36 PM, AustralianFan said:
Game On: Sports locked in for Victoria 2026 - thecgf.com - 5Oct22
Victoria 2026 Commonwealth Games
FULL LIST OF SPORTS
- Aquatics (Swimming, Para Swimming & Diving)
- Athletics & Para Athletics
- Badminton
- 3x3 Basketball, 3x3 Wheelchair Basketball
- Boxing
- Beach Volleyball
- Coastal Rowing
- Cricket T20 (Women’s)
- Cycling (BMX)
- Cycling (Mountain Bike)
- Cycling (Road)
- Cycling (Track & Para Track)
- Golf
- Gymnastics (Artistic)
- Hockey
- Lawn Bowls & Para Lawn Bowls
- Netball
- Rugby Sevens
- Shooting & Shooting Para Sport
- Squash
- Table Tennis & Para Table Tennis
- Triathlon & Para Triathlon
- Weightlifting & Para Powerlifting
Shepparton
- “Shepparton will host a suite of cycling events – staging both men’s and women’s time trials for the road race, as well as the BMX Racing competition, with the full program of event locations to be announced in the coming weeks.”
- “More than 100 athletes will be competing alongside hundreds of support staff, coaches and event organisers across the action-packed BMX racing competition.”
- “Shepparton will also welcome a major festival alongside the sport program, an exciting array of events, experiences and exhibitions will tap into the region’s vibrant cultural scene, making the most of live theatre, craft and galleries – including the world-class Shepparton Art Museum.”
No football and no men's cricket. I kinda get why not football (especially as England would kill it - except perhaps with women's, where at least Canada is in the top 10), but considering how the ICC had angled for the Commonwealth Games to be a T20 testing ground for future men's Olympic inclusion, it had to be a blow.
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21 hours ago, stryker said:
Final alcohol policy revealed.
Fan zones will be able to sell beer from 6pm to 1am (Fridays will be dry)
Alcohol will be sold just outside the stadiums (not on the concourses) two hours before games and two hours after games. During games, only Budweiser Zero will be sold and it`s questionable whether matches held on Fridays will even allow this. Officially, Budweiser has acknowledged having to adapt to local culture. Unofficially, I`m sure they are furious.
I saw a comment on an article about this where someone said given that Qatar has clearly backtracked on their promises regarding the availability of alcohol and angered Budweiser, why can`t FIFA just up and move to WC to England? Frankly, FIFA drank the kool aid. They bought everything hook line and sinker from the Qataris (along with accepting the bribe money). But the Qataris know that as you get closer to the tournament, knowing that a relocation is not possible, you can call the shots on logistics. That`s exactly what they`ve done here. And if there`s any criticism they can simply play the race card.
I`m sure privately FIFA is relieved Israel did not qualify.
Frankly, the UK (or even just England) could easily be told they had to host on short notice. Teams and fans would be pissed, and although the UK is proving they know how to police one-in-a-lifetime events currently (and doing amazingly well at it), it's their hotel infrastructure that would be questionable (at least in London). As every sod in Europe supporting a European team would want to come over - not to mention far cheaper flights from NA. But their stadiums are, in my opinion, even better than the ones in Qatar, and they know how to run a game of football.
Fairly sure if a list like the one the IOC keeps for emergency Olympics hosting existed for FIFA, the UK would be on top.
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21 hours ago, stryker said:
Saudi Arabia - no booze
No chance in you know where that Budwesier would approve. They`d bail on FIFA so quick especially after the Qatar fiasco. They are FIFA`s number one sponsor and you don`t bite the hand that feeds you.
Way stricter than Qatar even on a good day. No way MBS, when he becomes King, will change that quickly.
12 hours ago, stryker said:Qatar is liberal compared to Saudi Arabia. The country is dry. Saudi Arabia is ultra conservative where the clerics still hold a great deal of influence. I lived in Riyadh. Although it's opened up somewhat it is still very conservative. Gender segregation as well is still widely enforced. No chance the Saudis would allow booze.
Yep. And unless MBS ascends to the throne quickly, and decides that he wants to piss off the religious leadership, no chance he decides to liberalize that quickly. They still barely have cinemas in the country - for decades (I think about 25 years) there was 1 IMax theatre and that was the only movie theatre in the country. If/when World Cup 2022 goes badly (if fans are pissed about beer restrictions, or any number of things, and cause bad PR), it will sink Saudi's participation. Saudi have the religious police still as well, which will be absolute hell to deal with when it comes to westerners.
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No chance it gets seriously considered because of the winter timeframe. Just have Saudi build some domed stadiums there and in Egypt and have it in the normal timeframe.
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35 minutes ago, SportLightning said:
I'm not sure about that yet.
Orlando almost made an emergency bid for the 2020 Olympics (I have the resulting half the bid book that I helped with creating before the IOC reaffirmed Japan's hosting somewhere). If a city their size, or someplace else, was interested in bidding, there's little that stands in many of their ways besides the USOC not wanting to bid.
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On 8/1/2022 at 11:44 PM, ulu said:
NZ or Malaysia would be preferable to another location in GB.
Malaysia-Singapore joint bid could work. Or, as mentioned in the article, an East African games could prove attractive. Caribbean I doubt, due to infrastructure proving an issue. Pacific would be even worse. Why not Malta or Cyprus? Although, there are potential members that would make things interesting. If the Gulf countries ever decided to join the Commonwealth and bid for a Games, they'd get a CG easily. Same with Egypt...
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22 hours ago, SportLightning said:
Winnipeg could possibly bid for 2031.
At that point, well over a dozen different US cities, from Orlando to Vegas to Boston, even smaller cities like Omaha or Cincinnati, could probably be said to be appropriate sized/capable hosts. The USOC doesn't want to, but I bet there's a bunch of medium and smaller cities that would be interested because they're never going to get the Olympics anywhere close.
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On 8/30/2022 at 9:10 PM, stryker said:
Santiago 2023 "hardest building" to put together, admits Chilean NOC President (insidethegames.biz)
Not the least bit surprised the Santiago is finding it tough sledding prepping for the Pan Ams next year. What caught my eye was the Chilean NOC president commenting as difficult as the Pan Ams are the "Olympics would be impossible." I know the prospect of a Santiago bid (usually winter) gets kicked around the forums here from time to time, but this is the first time I`ve heard someone pour cold water on the idea of a Santiago Olympic bid. Frankly he1s right, after the Rio fiasco, there`s no city in Latin America that can stage an Olympics feasibly, even with the so-called New Norm. Forget Buenos Aires, Mexico, etc.
I wonder if this means that we might see a return to Canada or the US for a future PAG? If Latin American countries are finding it difficult to host... It would make sense.
The Gulf States loom: Bach opened pandora's box. Out of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and UAE, which is the "least bad" option and which is the worst?
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And by the time time a ME Olympics comes around, we'll have casinos in the UAE (and probably Dubai). Which certainly makes it a better choice than Qatar!
The UAE is western enough that of any option in the Gulf (perhaps with the exception of Bahrain), it's the most palatable for the Olympic viewing public (and we wouldn't have to worry about the Israeli relations issue due to normalization). They'd have to improve their facilities, and the number of hotel rooms, but there is enough to do there to entertain people outside the Games, and the bones of a good public transport network as well.