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  1. Had Beijing hosted the 2000 Games Toronto Canada hosting the 2008 Games with London still hosting the 2012 games there could be a massive Royal family thing for the ceremonies.

    I could imagine they would have Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh Opening up the games like he did in Melbourne 1956 follow on the past host Greece his Grandfather opened up the first Olympic Games in Athens 1896, Queen Elizabeth 2 would have attended the closing ceremony doing a speech welcoming the world to London in the handover ceremony. 

  2. 20 minutes ago, stryker said:

    Back when it looked like the Calgary bid would via a referendum I mentioned the idea of Canada giving another go at the WOGs with Vancouver. It makes sense. They have everything in place from 2010 with the exception of an Olympic Village and the need for a speed skating oval. since the Richmond Oval cannot be repurposed if memory serves me correctly. Vancouver could easily use the one in Calgary. The question is of course whether or not Vancouver would want to host again as has been mentioned.

    They will just need to build a new curling centre and Speed Staking oval, They should move it closer to the down town area they could build a complex around Trillium Park or next door between the 2010 Games Village and Cambie Bridge they will need to find a location for the games village.

    A Vancouver Canada 2030 Games could open up a Stockholm Sweden to host the 2034 Winter Games after the Paris 2024 Summer Games Italian 2026 Winter Games Sweden could be more open to host the Winter Games in a more compact plan like their 2022 winter bid. 

  3. Sapporo Japan 2030 - Salt Lake City USA 2034

    Harbin China 2038 - Montreal Canada 2042 

    Back to back USA China games with the growing market in China could really boost the money for the IOC the Beijing 2022 Winter Games could be a very great games China would likely get another Winter Games before the Summer Games Beijing 2022 was a test bid I think China will want to bring the games to the ICE city of Harbin. 

    2042 is Montreal 400th birthday it could be 32 years without a games in Canada so a Eastern Canada bid would likely win a bid. 

  4. On 1/18/2020 at 3:42 AM, stryker said:

    I still think one of, if not the main reason for the creation of YOGs was to use them as a consolation prize for countries that do not stand a remote chance of hosting the real thing. Sure the IOC started out with the likes of Singapore and Nanjing but this was more to give the YOGs a solid footing. Since then they've branched out to the likes of Buenos Aires and now Dakar. Going to Dakar means the IOC can finally say they brought the games to Africa, but it does not look as though Dakar is up to the challenge. I could definitely see the IOC calling on Morocco or perhaps Brazzaville which hosted the 2015 African Games and has the venues needed.

    Brazzaville is even less develop then Dakar and is in a worse area for safety and health wise I don't think Africa is ready for 2022 maybe in 2030 with Nairobi Kenya or Cape Town South Africa hosting those games, Thailand bid for the 2026 Summer Games is looking brilliant plan. 

    A double back to back Asian 2022 and 2026 Summer Games would be good for the Youth Olympic movement maybe go back to Singapore with the new Stadium being opened since the 2010 games or get Tokyo Japan to host the games as a backup, Tokyo, Beijing or Singapore 2022 - Pattaya Thailand 2026 a Caribbean city for 2030.

  5. 5 hours ago, Ikarus360 said:

    Current president is very obsessed with pleasing the North (remember the unified team and allowance of North korean diplomats in PC2018 was mostly his idea), in part due to how strained the relationships were during the two predecessing governments. Sadly its very likely he will get reelected so don't expect this diplomacy position to change anytime soon.

    Like Roger said, it's a big shame because Seoul has it everything and a serious bid from their part would easily surpass the others. But Pyongyang is being absolute deadweight which damages the bid prestige.

    The President's of South Korea can only get elected for one term his term will be up in 2022 of all likely possible next President's of South Korea, Ban Ki Moon is the most likely to support a unity bid for the Games, President Moon Jae'In approval ratings is in the low 40s right now South Korea is largely a Conservative country without a Ban Ki Moon Presidency it's possible the next President will likely be a member of Liberty Korea Party which could help a Seoul South Korea only bid.  

  6. 6 hours ago, Roger87 said:

    If Morocco doesn't came to save the face, Africa will be forbidden to host Olympics in generations ahead. 

    Agreed and I think it could backfire on Thomas Bach as he wanted theses games in Africa it would be nice to have the games in Africa but they can't go too it for going to Africa sake, Brazil just manage to host the games. 

    The Option that the IOC could do is to get Tokyo Japan as the backup host for the 2022 Summer Games and have a back to back games in Asia again with Tokyo Japan hosting the 2022 games and Bangkok Thailand for the 2026 games. 

  7. What if there was a vote turn into Beijing favour with both Beijing and Sydney won both 44 votes each in the final round with Juan Antonio Samaranch casting the deciding tie breaker vote to Beijing to host the 2000 Olympic Games? How would the 21st Olympic Games look like?

    With the failed 3 Olympic Games from Australia Australia would not bid again for a generation 

    Beijing China 2000

    2002 - 2006 Games would still be the same places Salt Lake City USA 2002 - Athens Greece 2004 and Turin Italy 2006

    Summer Games host cities would be most likely this.

    Toronto Canada 2008

    Tokyo Japan 2012

    Rio de Janeiro Brazil 2016

    Moscow Russia 2020

    Seoul South Korea 2024

    Los Angeles USA 2028

    Rome Italy 2032

    Winter Games host cities

    Harbin China 2010

    Almaty Kazakhstan 2014

    Munich Germany 2018

    Denver or Reno USA 2022

    Stockholm Sweden 2026

    Vancouver Canada 2030

  8. 17 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

    The entire Olympic Village would end up in a Jakarta jail by the end of the games if this went ahead:

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/anger-as-indonesia-moves-to-criminalise-sex-outside-marriage

    Ok looks like Jakarta is out of question now so Shanghai China looks to be the greatest threats to the Brisbane Bid.

    China is another cash cow for the IOC now with the USA hosting 2028 having the two Superpowers of the world hosting the games back to back so it could be a repeat of the 1980s with the Soviet Union and USA the two Superpowers of the world back then hosting back to back Moscow 1980 - LA 1984, LA 2028 - Shanghai 2032.

    It would be ironic if the Shanghai Bid won by 2 votes against the Brisbane bid the other way around from the 2000 bidding race.

  9. On 9/16/2019 at 3:25 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

    Where are the NO BRISBANE OLYMPICS'ers??   Time to come out now!!   

    And this would all but kill a Jakarta-Shanghai-Korea bid for the same year, and a Durban bid for at least until 2040.  

    I think Jakarta Indonesia bid and Shanghai China bid can still beat the Brisbane bid if the IOC wants to go to a new place for the 2032 Summer Games Jakarta Indonesia is the top pick for the IOC, They hosted a brilliant Asian Games in 2018 Indonesia is the largest Islamic country in the world and by going to Indonesia they could put a stop to Doha or Dubai from hosting the games if they award the games in 2021 Indonesia will have 11 years to get ready for the games so working on transport projects and other stuff.   

  10. 6 hours ago, thatsnotmypuppy said:

    Not a surprise.  They are too expensive unless you have the vast majority of venues and infrastructure already in place.  Adelaide most likely has enough venues - however they may not be of the right capacity for the CGF.

    It may get to the point where the CGF will approach cities directly. Melbourne again? Back to back in the UK?

    Maybe they will reach out to Singapore to finally get them to host they got the venues for the games Singapore 2026? Back to Delhi 2026?

  11. On 9/2/2019 at 7:15 PM, Tulsa said:

    We could see another European bid, like PC 2018 and Beijing 2022.

    I wonder if Thomas Bach is in talks with the Mayor of Munich in getting a bid from Munich Germany to host the 2030 Winter Games as a nice legacy from his years of being the IOC President to Germany, The 2032 Summer Games is very likely to go to Asia either Shanghai China or Jakarta Indonesia.

    With Milan Italy having the 2026 Winter Games could bod well for a Munich Germany 2030 bid Things could cool down and could go down well if they have venues in Garmish-Partenkirchen and in Innsbruck Austria if they want to save the cost in building venues and let's hope in a few years time the anti Olympic movement cools down in Europe let's hope for a great outcome from the Tokyo Japan 2020 Summer Games.

    Milan - Cortina Italy 2026

    Munich Germany - Innsbruck 2030

  12. On 7/2/2019 at 5:01 PM, Roger87 said:

    First wait if Nairobi doesn't end as disaster like Durban

    That is why I said they need to get the Commonwealth Games and host it put on a great games before they even bid for the Olympic Games Kenya is the most stable country apart from South Africa able to host the Olympic Games in Africa so 2040 at the earliest.

    Shanghai should built the Olympic Park along the river North East transform some of the industrial area into the Olympic Park that industrial island near the Shanghai International Fashion Center would be a great place and on the other side of the river would be a great place for the games village if they build a 100,000 seat Stadium for the games with downsize to 90,000 after the games.  

     

  13. The Australian economy is not in a great shape right now and there is allot of talk it will enter a long rescission in the next year of two the public might turn against the bid from Brisbane if that happens. 

    There is no need for a big oval stadium in Brisbane the Gabba hardly sells out for Cricket and AFL, John Coates rule will come to a end soon and what is interesting is Thomas Bach wants flexibility for the dates for the games so the 2032 Summer Games could be the last games with date restrictions under the NBC deal. 

    Melbourne right now is the best city for the games in Australia right now with the date restrictions likely to go from the 2036 Summer Games it could open up a January Olympic Games and February Paralympics Games, The Cricket could be held at Marvel Stadium for that summer and the Australian Open could go to another city for that year.

    If the 2032 Summer Games go to Asia the 2036 games will likely not be held in the Asia Pacific region so the Australian Games may not happen for a while yet.   

  14. 9 minutes ago, CWells2000 said:

    Shanghai would be a good host and would certainly be a big statement. However I dont see the games heading back to Asia, I see it going to Australia.

    2036 will almost certainly be heading for Europe. I sense it being between Budapest, Spain or the UK possibly. 

    Economically Australia's economy isn't doing that great right now and their is big talks about Australia going to enter a recession in the next year or two which could last for years so their might not be public support for a Olympic Bid no matter how much John Coates wants a games for Brisbane, I don't see a Australian games for a while yet Melbourne would be the best city right now but that will not happen while John Coates is still calling the shots in Australia.

  15. 9 hours ago, Roger87 said:

    Sure, not for now, but i'm counting that prospective to 5-7 years apart.

    -Virginia Raggi will leave the Roman government soon. I can even sign this as close to 100% guaranteed. She was a disaster, her arrogance was something (Even by mediterranean standards) and inside her own party want to drop her to the wolves.  

    -Recently Erdogan lost his support in the main turkish cities. This is a gamble, I accept, but that defeat in Istanbul (his homeground) has made some waves. If the first two years of the new Istanbul mayor are positive, then we have a potential race.

    -I could agree with Russia, but then people said the IOC won't accept China so soon, and the Russians have still influence inside the different branches of the IOC

    Vladimir Putin term will be up in 2024 he will be 72 years old so Russia could be a great place for the 2036 Summer Games they could try with Saint Peterborough in 2032 then go with Moscow in 2036 Russia is having a agriculture boom right now too and paying off their debts now they will have a very healthy economy very soon.

    Shanghai China 2032 - Moscow Russia 2036 

    China is expected to have the world's largest economy by 2030 and become a develop country by 2028 so Shanghai China can make a great statement to the world where they will reach the top  Beijing 2008 and 2022 is China welcoming the world and Shanghai 2032 will establish China as the world new superpower also marks the 100th anniversary of the Chinese first games they took part in.   

     

  16. 31 minutes ago, mountainboarder_530@yahoo. said:

     

    Thinking 2030 SLC is all but a sure thing, its obviously the heavy popular favorite.  After that, I do think Sapporo, Grenoble/Annecy/Chamonix, agree when Putin is finally done Sochi could be an option again, and......yes.......maybe ole Almaty will finally get taken to the dance by then.  

    Annecy should be a great place for the ceremonies venue I loved their plan building a temporary Olympic Stand overlooking the lake and mountains for the ceremonies have the Opening Ceremony begin at Day light and watch the sunset by the Olympic Flag is raised, It will like it will be like the Singapore 2010 and Guangzhou 2010 Asian Games ceremonies venues, Albertville can host the Speed Skating and the Curling events with Grenoble or Lyons can host the ICE Hockey and Short track and figure skating  events. The Games village should be in Albertville and the ceremonies venue for the 1992 Games could be the medal plaza.

  17. For the Winter Games it would be the best to award the games 7 years out unless if we have another Sochi 2014 case but Sochi Russia 2014 is a once in a lifetime event type games where they built every single thing for the games, Summer Games I agree with awarding the games 9 years out from the games, So both the 2030 Winter Games and the 2032 Summer Games will be picked at the same IOC session in 2023 so 1 day for the Winter Olympic host city election then the next day for the Summer Olympic host city election.

    From the Press conference the IOC President said he is open to the flexibility for the dates for the Games so the 2032 Summer Games could be the last games with dates restrictions it happens to be the dry season for Jakarta is held in from July to September so Jakarta Indonesia will not have any issues with the dates for the games.

  18. This could be the first ceremony since Barcelona for the Summer games to be held in day light for some off it the Sunset time on July 26 is at 9:38pm in Paris so if the ceremony begins at 9pm there will be a hour of sunlight and dusk with a 4 hour ceremony so they could bring a classic ceremony like Barcelona, Like Barcelona they could start the closing ceremony later with all the Athletes seated for the closing ceremony at 10Pm Starting time for it to be held fully in the dark have a 2 1/2 hour ceremony.

     

  19. If Jakarta Indonesia is not Asia strongest New Frontier then that would mean Bangkok Thailand is the strongest if they get the 2026 Summer Youth Olympic Games they could use those games as a test event for the 2036 Summer Games bid. Bangkok is one of the most visited cities in the world, Thailand is as develop as China and Brazil recent Olympic host countries high developing industrialise country. Bangkok got great sporting history in hosting big sporting events.

    In the 2030s we could have New Frontiers for the Summer Games

    Budapest Hungary 2032 - Bangkok Thailand 2036

    Budapest Hungary with Viktor Orban could make it the strongest backing European Bid for 2032 to leave the battle of Asia for the 2036 Summer Games, Hungary got a great economy they could put on a compact games the only top ten Olympic summer power yet to host the Summer Games.

    The IOC could play it safe for the Winter Games for a little longer with having Salt Lake City USA 2030 - Sapporo Japan 2034, They could go back to Munich Germany or Barcelona Spain for the 2038 Games and Montreal Canada for the 2042 games.    

  20. The only way I can see full support from Sweden is with a Sweden - Christian Democrats Coalition government let's hope they make a come back in 2034 once the dust is down come back with the 2022 compact Bid plan, I really think the Italy 2026 regionalism will be a one off event with a compact Salt Lake City 2030 plan and Sapporo Japan and Almaty Kazakhstan will have a compact bid. With the direction of Sweden I think it will be possible with the Sweden - Christian Democrats coalition government supporting the bid for 2034 without having the Sliding events in Latvia. 

    2033-2034 would also be the Diamond Jubilee year for the Swedish King would be a great year like London 2012 with the Diamond Jubilee for Queen Elizabeth 2 and the Olympic Games. 

  21. The problem with Turkey is they pick the wrong cities to make a bid for the games the right city for Turkey for the Summer Games is Izmir and for the Winter Games Bursa until they start bidding with those cities they have got no chance at all to host the Olympic Games, If Jakarta Indonesia wins the bid for the 2032 Summer Games it will be a long time before any other Islamic country host the games. 

  22. 39 minutes ago, Rob. said:

    Odd day yesterday:

    First thing: AC and Inter announce they'll be in a new stadium for 2022 and San Siro will be demolished
    Later on: the Mayor says no to any new stadium before 2026
    Then: Milan wins the bid

    Sounds like there's going to be a bit of a battle of wills about what happens and when.

    They might do what BC Place in Vancouver did the last ever events at the old BC Place Stadium were the Vancouver 2010 ceremonies before changing it all up after the 2010 Winter Games. 

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