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  1. Just think, in a parallel universe there are posters on this messageboard saying "oh thank god we didn't pick China". I know there were a few whispers (not blowing my own horn, but I was one) about the political repercussions coming to a head as long as a year ago warning about China boiling over, and here we are. The situation is all a sudden absolutely that serious.. Just red-teaming it, if Almaty got awarded, I wonder what we would be concerned about? The Tenge dropping because of oil prices would have certainly been one. The surprise transition of power would have been another (th
  2. This Tokyo - Beijing sequence of the games are going to be crucial for the IOC. If they manage to pull it off, they can hang their hat on adversity and being able to respond to a crisis like this. They MUST have at least Japan work, because there is at best a 50/50 shot of the beijing olympics going down without a boycott of north america and europe
  3. I think the authoritarian thing was well known for both countries, but if comparing, one has literal......actual concentration camps with numbers in the hundreds of thousands detained within them. And then tries to justify themselves once more as fighting terrorism. They are both authoritarian, and lord knows Kazakhstan prison cells probably have actual torture going on with them. So yes, there is an actual heirarchy to which is worse in that regard. Kazakhstan also doesnt have a hong kong situation either. Furthermore, I think the Olympics could have done great things to develop Almaty an
  4. It was a sincere joke around here, but hindsight being 20/20.......in 2020, Almaty is unquestionably the safer choice of the two. China was obviously perceived to be the safer bet with a treasure trove of cash. I also was always a bigger fan of the Almaty bid frankly speaking. While no darling angels, their bid was compact and had those "mountain" things that are pretty critical to hosting Olympic events (that and an actual winter sports culture). It was a vintage "project 2020" bid that checked off a lot of boxes. Instead we give it to the country that is literally running concentration
  5. One of the things I absolutely admired the hell out of for the Australians for, was there diligence and incredible hard work at road construction. When there was a section of road cordoned off in Australia, there were guys working their tails off in the coned off areas. You blokes would have an absolute heart attack seeing the lack of work done in American road construction areas, it is absolutely nauseating.
  6. of course they are. Just like the World Cup in Russia, the IOC is going to have to hold their nose and jump in. Its about survival at this point. Im not sure they would survive a Beijing boycott. Sidebar, if anyone is going to have to make a move NOW, its gonna have to be FIFA with the Qatar world cup, that one HAS to move, it is an unmitigated disaster.
  7. The IOC is ride or die with Beijing now. There is no night in shiny armor to save it. It HAS to succeed for them. China has a bullseye on their back right now whether they like it or not, and its mostly justified. Their handling of the pandemic was simply shambolic, and yes they should share a heavy blame for that. The Olympics is by far and away their best chance for a charm offensive at a world that is very..........very mad with them right now. Kazakhstan would have been struggling mightily to pay this thing off with the huge plummet in oil and natural gas prices. The Tenge is abs
  8. This is going to have a new theme for Italy too. I think at least some circles, theyre going to want to show this as a theme of resiliency and that we have recovered. This is a wound that will only be just beginning to scar over, and money be darned, this will be viewed as a part of the healing process. By everyone? No, of course there will be as many who think it is as frivelous as before, but there will be enough people who want to see it through over the finish line.
  9. I never thought we'd be thankful that Beijing would actually be in charge of this, but think of if Almaty won this right now. I always liked the idea of the Almaty bid. It was compact, had real snow and real mountains. There were some valid points that it would be a superior option. But 2020 has happened, and I think if the IOC were counting on Almaty right now, they would be extremely nervous. Almaty is completely locked down by the corona virus and likely would stop work for at least a few months (China would continue the work at all costs). The Kazakh currency, the tenge, is a
  10. That is absolutely what should have taken place in hindsight. I agree it would have made a ton more sense and wouldnt have left nearly the amount of white elephants.
  11. 2030 Sapporo, 2034 SLC, i guess the real conversation is gonna be 2038. Both are safe picks, which is exactly what the IOC needs right now. They were extremely lucky the Italy bid jumped out at the last minute a-la Major League Soccer's Nashville bid.
  12. Makes sense. Sapporo 2030 allows SLC 2034 exclusivity on sponsors. Not a bad move if thats how it goes down, as both will be solid hosts. IOC wants and needs "safe" right now.
  13. yeah thats a no........ South Korea/North Korea might sincerely have a better shot.
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