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Everything posted by jtrevino

  1. Using the same cauldron from 96 years ago would be incredible. If so, it would be appropriate to just continue that tradition as it’s still there, and I suspect that they will. It seems clear they’ll play up the living history they have to the Olympics as they should. LA’s plan is already simple, but the OC doesn’t need to be. It’s supposed to be a show/spectacle. London hired film director Danny Boyle for the OC and I'm assuming both Paris/LA will follow suit with a well-known stage/film director. With LA, they could easily hire a world-creating visionary like Tim Burton or Steven Spielberg. My opinion is LA should lean into it’s advantage of local talent and just go big. It did create Disneyland after all. \ I’m reading mention of Paris’ underwhelming World Cup show, but I don’t see any relation or foreshadowing. Different directors, different vision.
  2. Hip hop isn’t my thing, neither is Eminem. But I appreciate its nod to the cultural importance of black communities where the stadium is located in. Certainly a crowd-pleaser with the Millenial/Gen Z generation.
  3. Sorry, that link wasn’t it. But that one is an interesting video about Sofi Stadium’s technological advancement. Heres’ the half-time show Superbowl link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdsUKphmB3Y&t=125s
  4. This first major national event finally took place at Sofi today, aside from a record-breaking BTS concert attendance. Here’s a video to get an idea of what can be done with the stage as well as seeing the stadium maxed at 100,000 seating from it’s standard 70,000. Although for OC, it likely won’t need 100,000 with the co-stadium idea with Memorial. Even if it were on its own, it would still be a question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfJILuSZFIY
  5. If it’s projected to make a profit, that wouldn’t change with this revised budget. The revised budget is almost specifically based on inflation through time, not substantive changes to the budget. Inflation doesn’t just effect expenditure, it effects revenue as well (ticket costs in 2016 vs 2028). In other words, nothing really changed except we’re trying to project ourselves into what things will cost in 2028 (using 2028 dollars vs 2016). In layman’s terms, Americans weren't saving any more money back in 2009 because a burger was $1 less then than now in 2019.
  6. Here’s the survey. I suggest you go through a few of the questions, which are pretty eye opening. You’ll see almost every single question is baited with a lead-in of fear tactics about the Olympics(even subtly invoking the threat of ICE in largely immigrant LA). If they didn’t get the poll to respond the way they wanted, I’d have been more surprised. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/nolympicsLA
  7. Can’t get passed the subscriber block on the article, but why would banks foot the bill? They provide the loans but someone has to pay them back.
  8. https://www.curbed.com/2018/5/17/17359086/olympics-2028-los-angeles-1984 Lessons From The 84 Games
  9. It would tack on an extra 350,000 space to the convention center and add a 40 story hotel with 850 rooms next door. AEG (who owns Staples Center) hopes to finish by 2021 if the city approves this. No mention of the Olympics, but this has to be an enticing proposition as the city plans for it.
  10. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-clippers-donation-20180402-story.html One down for 2028. Stadium is open and first game has officially been played by LAFC vs Seattle. There’s a gallery of the game and the stadium in the link. This part of town, by luck, is primed to become a centerpiece for the Olympics. At least two more milestones will happen in these parts that should keep visitors with a packed schedule of activities. Expansion of the Science Center to properly house Endeavor Space Shuttle and the Lucas Museum, which broke ground this month.
  11. They already have, and really swiftly. But Musk has written off flying cars as being too dangerous, thus his focus on hyperloop. Even Musk has limits.
  12. I think you’re asking too much from a team on it’s first day. A fanbase has to be grown, and a reputation has to be built. You’re not entitled to have a ready-made fanbase just because LA has a lot of people. It’s like reviewing a restaurant on opening night. There needs to be some time to pass before getting a proper idea.
  13. https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/07/blizzard-arena-los-angeles/ Los Angeles will be ready for the e-Games.
  14. I always imagined that the pastel-y color scheme of LA was to mimic what Ancient Greece might have looked like in their day....or it was just the 80s.
  15. You misread my last sentence. I think it was clear that I was referring to those as cultural/contemporary elements and making a clear distinction between that and historical elements. Also, the noir-ish elements of LA aren’t the literal race riots, rape murders that I’m thinking about when I said "noir-ish", but things like oil-rush, Mulholland’s aquaduct, and grit/glamour visuals, that sort of thing, that evolved LA at turn of the century. But LA history is already the lense of American history if they use the points, say for example, native American city origins, multicultural immigration, Chinese railroads, gold rush, etc. TV, radio/Tesla, etc are more inventions/contributions which I’m not opposed, but my criticism was towards going back further than that into Mayflower/Boston tea party territory. I don’t think it’s necessary and I think there are more interesting elements to touch upon. I don’t know about the Hyperloop, untested technology which is something that could easily be a huge failure in practice or abandoned for some competing or existing tech. Space X makes a lot of sense if it’s tied with some sort of space tech history of LA, it’s role in designing/building the space shuttles, and the Jet propulsion lab integral to space exploration. And that would actually be something that touches upon the nation’s contributions to science through LA.
  16. If the OC has the cowboys, pilgrims, Lincoln, and Washington, I can’t see it being good. Like Ejaycat pointed, Yankee history has been done to death. Sure, it’s relevent, but it’s going to feel like sitting in a high school history lesson. They won’t struggle to find local LA history material that’s interesting. There are a lot of almost cinematic, noirish curiosities in LA's local history. The challenge is going to be editing things out rather than including things in. They only have about an hour (?) total of performance time to touch on everything. And I think the cultural elements are the most interesting things anyway, so any history segments should be really short. You're going to remember the light, contemporary elements like Giselle walking to Girl from Ipanema or James Bond, the Queen, and Mr. Bean.
  17. There are a number of Hollywood film musical sequences they could use. Anything by Disney or with Gene Kelley, Gentlemen prefer Blondes, Wizard of Oz...etc. LaLaLand could work in a medley sequence ith any of those . But the Hollywood aspect shouldn’t be a strong focus. I also hope the OC is specifically an LA story and not a USA story. It’s just more interesting because few people know much about LA’s history. Everyone knows American history.
  18. I always imagined that the pastel-y color scheme of LA was to mimic what Ancient Greece might have looked like in their day....or it was just the 80s.
  19. Nazi imagery and Tokyo had distinct imagery, but it was an imagery rooted in nationalism, more to influence how their country was seen. What I think LA contributed was more of a “branded” look rooted in commercialism and marketing and geared towards “selling” the Olympics itself, rather than the US or LA. It was sponsorship friendly, easy for anyone to appropriate for sponsor print ads.
  20. I can’t see that ever happening or see many cities choosing to be in that rotation. Every woman wants an joyous extravagant wedding, but I’m sure after having gone through the months/years of planning, they never want another one ever again. They’d have to at least get rid of media/athlete villages and have everyone pay their own way before that becomes a reality.
  21. California isn’t facing a budget crisis. The revenue shortfall came back this summer at $1.6B, but that’s not a budget crisis. CA’s budget is $183B in a $2.5T state economy, so it's not significant. CA needs to adjust for it the following year or if a slowdown is being predicted. The unemployment rate in 2017 is still record low 4.7%.and is coming close to surpassing Great Britain for the 5th slot in the world’s largest economies. Conservative news is always predicting CA’s demise, but in reality CA is no where close to being in economic crisis. From now to within the next couple of years, there’s predicted to be a slowdown across the US. 11 years is a long time, so there could be a recession by 2028 since these things are cyclical. Or it could happen in 2024 and recover by 2028 for all we know. It'll go and up and down from year to year, but over the long term trend, LA is still experiencing the lowest crime rates in it’s recorded history. Lowest recorded was 2013/14 when it equalled or undercut LA’s crime rate back in 1949.
  22. Regardless of the fact that esport is not a sport. Once you add, it because a controversial headache to cut. And really, the Olympics needs to slim down rather than add. All these additions are one of the reasons hosting has such a bad reputation. Just requires more and more hosting duties (ie. money) from cities. Although, I think it would be great to have an Esport Olympics by itself, or held unoffically in Paris around the same time. I think that may be what Estanguet has in mind, despite how it’s being reported. (because this can’t be serious). The medal splitting of the medals, although an interesting concept creates more problems than they’re worth. Because it’s not just 3 other people, it’s a huge team. So some people get one and others are left out? Less hurt feeling to just keep it for yourself. And then if you don’t want to share, you’re an ass.
  23. I think the risk going over budget is a fair criticism, because you can’t control the true costs of things for 2024 much less 2028. No one can predict that, but I think it’s reasonable to assume that with all permanent venues already built, the costs aren’t going to drift too far away from their estimates. The NFL stadium isn’t yet built, but it’s more opportunistic than necessary. It was never included in other LA bids before football came to LA. But the outcry over homeless/poor/black displacement in a lot of the articles coming out I don’t think have much teeth for 2028. Even with the 84 games, I think many criticisms are scapegoating the Olympics when these issues of violence and racism had everything to do with the social landscape of LA at the time. LA is experiencing record low levels of crime especially compared to the 80s/90s. For the most part, the LAPD is a far different police force than it was in 1992, when it was the most violent and corrupt police force in the country. Beating every black guy who crossed the street. LA has tipped so far to the left, even to almost a fanatic level of liberalism, where I just can’t see them pulling human rights violations that were so easy for them to do in 1992. Remember LA voted in 1994 in favor of the infamous anti-immigrant, arguably racist, Prop 187. Can you imagine that happening in LA today? If anything, the criticisms of anti-Olympic groups will probably have an effect by making these issues about displacement even more unlikely to happen in 2028.
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