HenryOaks
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18 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:
But what about the live spectators and those who will pay premium 2k Euros for a premium seat? I say, having worked in TV production for a few years -- it will be extremely difficult to pull one off. Even their so-called "Intro" to Paris wasn't all that innovative to me. Unless they hire American producers, it will be weirdly "Gallic" again.
So, they did it before in 1998. But how strange, that NOBODY else has done it they way they did. I wonder if they even finessed any feedback from that show?
If they go ahead with this option they'll find a way to make it all fit together to offer something remarkable, or so I hope. I'm more concerned about LA's proposal, not a big fan of indoor venues for ceremonies, although it seems they'll use the outdoor one too.
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2 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:
Why would it be a ". . . great show for TV? when it would be very disjointed? I mean if it's all over the place -- it would have NO FOCUS. They would have to be switching from Location A, to Location B, to Location C, etc, to give the viewer a taste of something. Even Mardi Gras, the Macy's Day Parade, Pasadena's Tournament of Roses parade are just run in one stream so there is some sort of locus and unity of purpose -- not a splattered wreck.
So, how could Paris' multi-site idea be a "great show for TV . . . or anyone"? 
Quite easy: good production and cameras, the magic of television.
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I would opt for La Cartuja for athletics in stadium with most events in early morning and evening. Marathon and race walks in Madrid. Sevilla already hosted the World Athletics Championships in August 1999 and nobody died. Or why not, in Barcelona. Sailing in Valencia.
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43 minutes ago, FYI said:
lmfao, yeah, cuz only Tokyo has those unbearable conditions outside.
Well, we're talking about a "second" chance for Tokyo, aren't we? Nobody said that.
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I also think that it would be a great show for TV in the perfect place, much more appealing than a traditional ceremony in a stadium, but maybe boring on site. Regarding safety, I assume it would be a closed controlled area, as most of massive street events worldwide, with the crowd placed on certain areas, checkpoints, barriers and so on. I don't see why that would be a nightmare and festivals or even an Olympic marathon in the city centre for two hours isn't. But that's only my opinion. We'll see how it all turns out.
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Honestly, we have seen so much colour patterns that just black, white and gold appeals to me a lot. Anyway, they use mainly black on the web to consume less energy and so on. Sadly, they will start to add lots of colours when the date approach.
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Second chance? They had had 3 chances! Besides, weather conditions during summer should be something to take into account in the next decades, and Tokyo conditions will be unbearable to practice sport outside.
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I agree. The Paralympic OC was much more emotional and creative than the Olympic one with a budget even tighter. Congrats.
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I think Madrid won't be interested in bidding for a long time. The Olympic stadium is under construction as a football one with no track for Atletico de Madrid, the Aquatic Centre (under construction) has been reconverted in a gym for that football team members and the new local government nor madrileños are interested in bidding after spending their money on 3 attempts in a row. Enough is enough.
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IOC never warns any cadidate city about if it is too soon for them to bid or not, they always encourage them and say that what matters is the project. Liars, of course.
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3 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:
And even for 2012 and 2016, the Castilians/Madrilenos went ahead stubbornly in bidding despite what the outgoing IOC president Samaranch himself warned them against-- that it was TOO soon to bid after Barcelona. But they disbelieved him and went on their well, quixotic quests.
Also, Rio and Madrid supposedly conspired to make sure that Chicago went out first because they feared that Chicago was technically the best bid. How the USOC/Chicagoans fell for their supposed "chances," I will never figure out.
20 years in 2012 and 24 years in 2016 since Barcelona '92 so I suppose it is too soon for LA to bid after Salt Lake City 2002.
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I hope Paris beats LA (because of the time zone and... yes, because I love the city), but I'm a bit pessimistic about it. There's no point in comparing bids reports and so on cause we all know that IOC members are not well-known for making sensible decissions based on the common good. Having been rejected some times before this bid doesn't matter either, look at Madrid... 3 times in a row with realistic low risk projects.
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And why is it based in Madrid? In return for their 3 unsuccessful bids in a row?
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I know the feeling. In my case (or Spaniards case) it's even worse. The next 3 Olympics in Asia will be terrible to follow in Europe and to make matters worse Rio 2016 have been the last Olympics broadcast by the public TV in Spain (which meant free full live access to all the events through 2 of their channels on TV and up to 19 live channels on their web) since Eurosport acquired the rights for the next few Games so we will have to subscribe to a cable TV package if we want to watch them entirely because they are only broadcasting a small part for free on Discovery MAX (which is an open-access channel in Spain)
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Has all the look of the games stuff arrived yet? The tennis centre court and some other venues don't have any branding on the stands.
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The first hour was quite amusing. Colourful and rythm. After the parade everything was toooooooooooooo slow and boring. It seems that it's not enough with two speeches so they have made up an award as well. Did you notice that most of the athletes left before the ceremony was finished? 5/10.
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Do the waterfront sculpture move as well? In that video it's static. They should have broadcasted the lighting of that cauldron as well.
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1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said:
Where's the 5 rings composed of the plants from the tricycles in there? I don't see it. Did they junk it too -- because it would slow down the March?? Love the projections on the floor!!
According to the video I watched, the Olympic rings section will take place after that carnival and before the speeches.
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Can we already say "I told you"? All in all, let's try to enjoy what Rio can offer and let's hope the IOC makes decissions taking into account reliability and good judgement next time.
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So, to sum up, they were late for the World Cup and, two years later, they are also late for the Olympics. Incredible.
Sapporo 2030: Give them an offer they can't refuse with no bids involved
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Momentum? Give them another Games in 9 years? I'm afraid the Japanese people and gov would consider that offer a declaration of war. The only "thanks" and "sorry" they want is to close the Paralympics and try to forget everything for a few generations.