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44 minutes ago, yoshi said:
What the actual....I mean it’s surfing territory, but seriously, it’s not as though France is short of sea
Has beautiful shores just a few hours from Paris.... goes to the other side of the planet.
Oi Vey.
Does that mean Los Angeles 2028 can have surfing in Hawaii?
Honestly this is PARIS 2024, not France 2024.
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On 11/4/2019 at 11:38 AM, Ikarus360 said:
Samaranch was going to give the games to Barcelona either way, to be honest. I don't trust the guy who let Atlanta and SLC win, specially after all the evidence which came out about the later.
But Barcelona, Atalanta, and SLC went on to be really good games.
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3 minutes ago, JesseSaenz said:
A little late to this convo, but I LOOOOVE the official logo. It wasn't overly designed or too complex.
Simple, but elegant, and symbolic.
IMO, the simplicity of it will make it instantly recognizable around the world.
Well done, Paris!
Also, the Art Deco inspired font. Bravo!
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A little late to this convo, but I LOOOOVE the official logo. It wasn't overly designed or too complex.
Simple, but elegant, and symbolic.
IMO, the simplicity of it will make it instantly recognizable around the world.
Well done, Paris!
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6 hours ago, Nacre said:
I wish that cities would stop seeing homelessness as something to be "solved." Many people who are homeless don't want to be put into social housing - especially if that housing comes with sobriety checks. So what do you do? Force them into a program against their will? Maybe cities should start designating some places for tent cities.
They were interviewing homeless in LA. Two things I noticed that really made me angry.
1. A substantial amount of them are not from Los Angeles. They moved to LA from other parts of the country. Many of them are from the midwest and the south. How is it LA's residents responsibility to care for people who are not even from there!?
2. Many don't want help. They want to live "off the grid" as the one woman put it.
LA needs to figure out how to stop the influx of people descending onto the city with plans from the get go to be sleeping on the streets. Additionally, the city/county of LA needs to start being more aggressive. Many of these people will not voluntarily get helped, they have made it abundantly clear. They have it too easy running their own show there and the city leaders need to start putting an end to that. -
A really cool presentation by Casey Wasserman at his Alma Mater, UCLA, as it celebrates its centennial.
"UCLA and the Olympic and Paralympic Movement"
Starts at around the 4min mark.
I like at min 46 where he emphasizes the need to separate the 2028 Games from all the other development going on in LA that is 100% separate from the Olympic budget.
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On 5/10/2019 at 8:44 AM, Quaker2001 said:
Venue infrastructure is listed in LA's budget as $1.463 billion. That's more than 20% of their total budget. So it's a misnomer to say there's a lack of new construction when it accounts for a pretty big chunk of the budget.
Where LA's efforts may be less risky than other bids is that it's privately backed as opposed to most of the time where it's government backed. Doesn't mean it's guaranteed to stick to budgets, especially if a scenario comes up where LA's interests need to measured up against the IOC's wishes. That's where a lot of Olympic host cities tend to run into trouble, so it remains to be seen how they'll handle that in LA.
When the Boston anti-Olympic folks started to gain traction, I said I thought it was likely to be a one-time thing and not necessarily something that would pop up elsewhere. Needless to say, I pegged that one wrong.
There's a ton of animosity against the IOC and for good reason. It's not necessarily specific to one city (although I've seen the NOlympicsLA folks go after Eric Garcetti on several occasions), so it might be more of a determined effort to oppose the IOC rather than be something specific to one city.
I agree with the frustration with how the last few Olympics have been handled. Beijing, Sochi, and Rio De Janeiro were complete atrocities. No one should ever spend that amount of money for a sporting event. So, yes I see why there is criticism. But they are so desperate to stop them that they are overlooking the reforms that have taken place since to ensure a more sustainable games. It is why Paris and LA were the last two cities running.
Personally, I think NOlympics LA should focus more on factual information regarding the negative impacts to LA after the 1984 games. Most notably the militarization of it's local law enforcement, gang round ups, and homeless relocation. -
On 4/20/2019 at 2:20 AM, Rob. said:
Every major city has the same issues but I've never seen anyone wallow in it so much. Maybe a bit of perspective is needed here. The IOC literally changed the rules to nail down LA and Paris as hosts since they didn't want either to get away. You're doing just fine, cheer up. Nobody outside the US cares about NFL rivalries and who cares what other US cities think anyway? You've got the Games, they haven't.
Any actual news?
Yeah, the revised LA 2028 Budget was released, and OF COURSE, citing inflation, its $700 Million more dollars than the original budget which was proposed with the 2024 Games in mind.
Was this included in the headline? Of course not. Click bait and angry responses from readers, residents, and NOLympicsLA.
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On 4/16/2019 at 8:12 AM, RuFF said:
Oh Nacre. I can’t really argue with the negative press. But we are talking about LA which until recently was always the go to negative article of the New York Times. Angelino’s thrive in the negative press because it creates even more press, especially about the part where people fail to accurately portray LA. The phrase Los Anjealous didn’t come out of nowhere. LA is ready for the negative press. And it’s ready to shine right through it as well. Barring a terrorist attack or catastrophic earthquake, LA is a city that lives off the crap talk and recycles and repackages it for the world to consume.
THIS.
I can't think of any other city that has mastered the art of rolling with the punches. LA is a very resilient place which is ironic considering the stereotypes. When its not mother nature slamming it (Fires, earthquakes, landslides, floods), its negative headlines often at the hands of NY Times or the Bay Area.
And you're right. It turns any press into profit. Positive, negative, it doesn't matter, it leverages it towards its advantage every single time.... and the world eat it up. -
On 4/4/2019 at 5:37 PM, FYI said:
^Oh my, & where have we heard that you-know-who cockamamie idea before?! Anything to have L.A. wind up with the 2024 Games afterall, huh.
And opposition to an L.A. Games has already begun, it’s just not really pronounced ATM cuz the 2028 Games are still almost a decade away (so most are clueless or don’t care for now).
Like they say, be careful what you wish for. Switch the order around & let’s see if a NO-LAOlympics group won’t get off to a really good start.
NOlympicsLA has been around for some time now, even when LA was still in the bidding process. They haven't gain much momentum, even now in 2019 long after the games were awarded. They are with the Democratic Socialist group and most of their attacks are on social media. They aren't too organized either.
The opposition that LA has is tiny compared to what Paris is now dealing with.
Financially, LA's plan always the more prudent. Again, anything can happen here, but the city is in a much better spot right now than Paris.... by a lot.
There's also this report about it's booming economy.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-04-05/los-angeles-economic-boom-outpaces-u-s-cities -
45 minutes ago, Maximf83 said:
thats what i believe, people here can probably provide more information on if cities can get out of it, Denver did get out of 1976 winter games hosting
I mean the US is a dumpster fire right now, politically, but for the time being, at least, LA is not rioting nor is it up in flames.... nor has support for the games diminished.
Maybe a swap would be on the table? LA 24 Paris 28?-
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23 hours ago, Maximf83 said:
no idea, but i know that they ran a poll and 62% were in favor of cancelling
Is that even an option? Aren't they now contractually obligated to host the games?
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People of Los Angeles to United Airlines, thanks, but no thanks.
Coliseum renaming by United Airlines get serious opposition by residents and War vets.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-united-airlines-coliseum-naming-deal-20190329-story.html
I welcome United Airlines pulling out of the Coliseum deal to be completely honest.
Such a storied and iconic venue that was built and paid for by LA taxpayers that should not be for sale like that. -
On 2/8/2019 at 2:59 PM, Nacre said:
Snarky Response:
It is cheering to hear that Los Angeles has solved its problems with poverty and homelessness in the four months since I last visited.
Non-Snarky Response:
I don't know why people in LA continue to ignore the reason that their city was able to host without running up debt. LA has hosted twice before by default: once during the great depression and the other time during the cold war when no one else bid and nearly half of the athletes didn't show up due to boycotting. It's not as if Los Angeles has hosted luxuriant Olympics that outshine the rest of the world for a tiny fraction of the cost of regular bids. It has hosted cheaply by using cheap facilities.
LA will host in 2028 in a cost effective manner once again. But it won't do so because the local people are smarter, more virtuous or wealthier than the rest of the world. It will be because they can stick the athletes in dorm rooms and use sporting venues that wouldn't be good enough to win an actual bid competition. (Yes, I know. Dodger Stadium and the new Inglewood stadium are great. But baseball and American football aren't even Olympic sports in most Olympiads.)
That isn't to say that LA will host a bad Olympics or that they should spend a lot of money on the games. But I fear that people in LA are in for a nasty surprise when the world's media reports on the 2028 games and gives them the same rough treatment Atlanta got in the press.
The amount of bullshit here is, well, staggering.
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Cool shoutout to LA 2028 by Nike Ad.
"Overnight Success"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H6xMmAlOcw
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Paris is knee deep in **** right now.
It's so bad they are closing the Eiffel tower, you know, the thing on their Olympic logo.
Even LA couldn't pull this off without costing a fortune in security.
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On 11/12/2018 at 6:42 AM, Rob. said:
MASCOT ANNOUNCED!
Flag desecration!!!
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1 hour ago, FYI said:
Just exactly what people against the rising massive costs of the Olympic Games in potential host cities need to read about a chairman of an OGOC. :-*
What Wasserman does in his private life and as chairman are two different things. How he decides to spend his money or whether or not he decides to list his Beverly Hills home for sale is irrelevant to an Olympic Budget which has strict oversight by the LA City Council.
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6 hours ago, jtrevino said:
Here’s the survey. I suggest you go through a few of the questions, which are pretty eye opening. You’ll see almost every single question is baited with a lead-in of fear tactics about the Olympics(even subtly invoking the threat of ICE in largely immigrant LA). If they didn’t get the poll to respond the way they wanted, I’d have been more surprised.
Yeah the wording of the questions was immensely misleading. Yes, cost overruns are a real problem, but it doesn't explain why. Construction costs are what drive the Olympic Committee into the red, something that is noticeably and thankfully missing from the LA bid.
A **** survey that I hope backfires on them. -
California and the pot industry is not even hiding their excitement about the 2028 Summer Games and the revenue opportunities for them.
Let's start with LAX now allowing Marijuana on departing flights
--> https://www.businessinsider.com/travelers-can-fly-through-lax-with-marijuana-2018-9
Official Statement from Los Angeles World Airports (LAX) --> https://www.flylax.com/en/lax-marijuana-policy
2028 LA Olympics to Be First Ever With Legal Cannabis --> https://www.leafly.com/news/lifestyle/2028-la-olympics-first-ever-legal-cannabisThe Marijuana 2028 Olympic Games Coming to California --> https://cannabisnow.com/cannabis-industry-insiders-believe-weed-will-fund-2028-olympics/
2028 Summer Olympics to be First to Occur in Area with Legal Marijuana --> https://thejointblog.com/2028-summer-olympics-first-occur-area-legal-marijuana/
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Marijuana will definitely contribute to the success of the 2028 Games, make no doubt about it.
Of course, there will be no formal affiliation with the IOC, but its essential role in California and the Los Angeles lifestyle will make it a very sought after commodity by visitors. I could even go as far to say that many will add it to their itinerary as they ALREADY do now, especially by Europeans and Australians. Cannibis tourism skyrocketed in California since its legalization.
Of course, Athletes will need to steer clear and be mindful of it.
Pot Friendly Tourism Takes Off in California
Skipping out on a good smoke session in California is like going to France without trying their wine or cheese.-
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24 minutes ago, RuFF said:
At least LA has reasonable goals and not bogus press releases to end poverty, homelessness and carbon emissions.
No mention of ending poverty from the LA side, but they have aggressively pushed for homelessness solutions starting back in 2015, and curbing carbon emissions is a byproduct of the electric car roll out.
So while not specifically mentioned (smart of them), they aim to address some of the same problems.
20 - 40% ownership of electric cars by 2028 seems very plausible, especially with new electric models coming out each year.
I know Metro Los Angeles recently announced their intent for a zero emissions bus fleet by 2030, and truthfully, that can happen way before that. -
I called it over a year ago. Tesla has a strong presence in LA already, so this was bound to happen.
Tesla, BMW and BYD, are among others that are in a joint partnership with Los Angeles to accelerate the rollout of electric vehicles ahead of the 2028 Olympics.
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1118728_l-a-sets-electric-car-targets-as-host-for-2028-olympics
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43 minutes ago, JesseSaenz said:
Irvine (In Orange County) wants in on LA 2028.
Water Polo venue in Irvine to be considered.
https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/2028-olympic-water-polo-venue-proposed-in-irvine/
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Los Angeles 2028
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Luckily, LA can pull this off even without all the lines completed.
In 1984 it didn't have a single mile of rail and the games were a massive success. Traffic never materialized because of proper planning in the months leading up to the events.