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  1. If you give Paris the games because of the attack, you are forgetting the attacks on Beirut, Kenya, Nigeria, Metrojet and all the other places that have been bombed by ISIS. I care and feel love as much as everybody else on this matter, but I dislike when other terrorist attacks are ingnored and Paris's is made far bigger then any other attacks.

  2. I must say I was a bit sceptical about Paris bid so far, so shortly after the previous failure and given the status of France within the Olympic organizations. But now, given what has happened, I absolutely wish that Paris is elected.

    Stole my words.

    I liked LA as an underdog trying to make the games financial again and that's why I went for them, but now I fully go for Paris. The attacks have changed my view on how comforting a city can be.

  3. I don't think Paris' plans are to "renew" the city via the Olympics. If it were then that would be somewhat relevant, but if Paris is pulling the 'diversity, future, and unity' card (which is what we've been seeing so far), then I don't see how creating an entire cluster toconvert precious green space or private property into sports venues would have anything to do with it. Paris doesn't really need to be 'renewed'.

    Hearing from other reports and NOT my own experience, apparently their are many parts of the city that need renewal.

  4. That, however, would reduce seating capacity even further. (65,000?)

    It's hard for me to believe that the LA 2024 committee sees all of this as a good thing. Simply adding suites around the top of the bowl would be preferable for athletics, and keep seating capacity competitive with Paris.

    Personally, I think this is a good thing. There are a lot of seats at the back of the stadium that aren't used. I think that a capacity of 70,000 is very realistic. I think the roof will be added during the season after the VIP seats are added because it is a roof and roof renovations to existing bowls usually allow games to be played in the stadium.

  5. Posted this on my SSC account, might aswell repost it here:

    Stage one of the plan is to build the VIP Facilities with the universities private funds. Stage two is dependent on if their is an LA Olympics. It involves pretty much roofing all or nearly all (peristyle could be an exception) of the stadium. By the looks of it, this is what LA 2024 had planned all along.

  6. Enlighten me here.. what stadium does LA have that's perfect for athletics? Because it's not the Coliseum. It will require an extensive renovation to make it friendly for athletics once again and that renovation will likely run counter to what is in the best interests of USC for their football program. And considering a lot of this is hinging on an Olympic BID (as opposed to having already won the vote), that changes the equation of how USC is going to proceed on this one. So you can say that this plan is already in the works, but this is still a major undertaking that shouldn't be discounted as part of the overall cost of bidding for and potentially hosting the Olympics.

    See Hampden Park, which had a 1 million dollar track laid before the games that can be removed afterwards. And in terms of an OG 1million is absolutely nothing.

  7. Los Angeles has a lot of big arenas, but it is not going to build a huge new convention center and temporary arenas like London did and Paris is presumably planning to do. I am NOT saying that Los Angeles does not have enough venues to go around, but rather that they are going to have to do some creative shuffling of venues.

    I've done my research.

    London, the most recent Olympic host had 11 indoor arenas (which are all indoor-sport arenas and all convention centre arenas, excluding velodrome and aquatics centres which have different venue requirements) which are the most expensive part of any bid. Rio has the same amount of arenas. The Los Angeles bid has 14 indoor arenas, almost half are around 18k.

    Los Angeles does not have "everything it needs to host" already in place like some people are saying. They are going to have to push for venue improvements/expansions and re-purpose some venues for other sports.

    Again pretty much false.

    The only thing Los Angeles will need to build is a renovated velodrome. Every single sport will take place in a stadium that is perfect for it besides the already mention hockey and fencing. Fencing has its own 4-thousand seat venue for the first stage of the competition but the bid uses the iconic Microsoft Theater for the finals because of its international appeal. All other venues (including the soccer stadium) will be perfect for the games and almost all do not need expansion or renovation. Besides the Aquatics stadium, the most repurposing you'll see is the change of a basketball venue to a handball venue or gymnastics venue.

    USC's plans for the Memorial Stadium are a good example. What happens to this bid if USC decides not to upgrade the stadium in time for the Olympics?

    I'm sorry to be harsh but really? They've got 9 years to finalise plans for an upgrade to a stadium. And they get 500m of government funding for free. If they don't pay this 300m they lose 500m in upgrades.

  8. They're not trying to host the games tomorrow. They're trying to host in 2032. The vote for that is 10 years away. By that time, they'll have hosted a Commonwealth Games, so they'll have that experience under their belt.

    A lot of people expected South Africa to jump into the fray for 2020 following the World Cup. They didn't. They're waiting for an opportunity for when they feel their ready rather than starting to bid in hopes of eventually landing an Olympics down the line. We all know that Durban is less than an ideal city to host the Olympics. But the IOC wants to hold an Olympics in Africa and Durban probably offers them their best opportunity to do so. So if Durban pales in comparison to cities of similar size (and like you said, they have a stadium which many of those cities do not, so that's a big deal), the IOC will probably be more accommodating of them than they would be of a similar city on another continent.

    I do agree with this. There are many people who see Durban as a city that could win the bid tomorrow. That is what the post was for. But there are many people, like you and me, who see Durban as a city that does need some work to host the Olympics, but if they did they would host a great one.

  9. Los Angeles has a number of great arenas, but they don't want to build anything new like London did or Paris is planning to do. And that means dealing with a number of sub-optimal issues like putting swimming in a soccer stadium and having the field hockey in a stadium with a track in it, as well as counting on private parties to voluntarily upgrade their facilities at their own expense. It seems unclear if UCLA and USC are going to want to spend millions upgrading a facility for their rowing teams, for example.

    For me this is a sign of the LA 2024 team doing their due diligence in preparing for the outcome that the area's private parties don't pay to upgrade their arenas. If UCLA is not willing to spend millions to upgrade their arena, then basketball might have to be moved to San Francisco or Sacramento. That shows that the organizing committee is well prepared, but it also shows that they are dependent on a lot of private parties who may or not be willing to make sacrifices for the Olympics.

    Los Angeles has so many arena's that they do not need to build anything. Almost every arena is 10k+, with most at 18k+. It has been noted that there are still some 18k+ arenas that haven't been picked for the Olympics because their are too many. The only reason for a move to Sacramento would be for a boost to state-wide poll numbers.

    Talking about the swimming arena, it is a new deal and not many details have come out yet. I did some calculations and while a soccer pitch is too big for a swimming pool. With added seats it is doable. As for the hockey arena, they will probably change it at a later date.

  10. Melbourne - duh!

    Sydney

    Los Angeles

    London

    Amsterdam

    Munich

    Innsbruck

    Rome

    Paris

    If you visit Melbourne, come and watch an event at the iconic Melbourne Cricket Ground, home of the 1956 Olympics and 2006 Commonwealth Games. Pay visit to the National Sports Museum, located on level 3 of the Northern Stand, it has an Olympic exhibit which has Australia's collection of Olympic torches.

    Being a bit of a tourist guide for our city. Good onya.
  11. Dakooo, Can You Think on What Would The New Emblems Look Like Next Spring? I Know The "T" Shape Olympic Emblem & The "=" Sign Paralympic Emblem Didn't Work Out.

    First of all, sorry for that last line in my post. I thought I had deleted it but it had dropped a line.

    Secondly, stop stating the obvious. It's really annoying and obnoxious

  12. Durban is not this fantasy land that some of us think that could host the games tomorrow. It really only has an Olympic stadium, convention centre, water polo arena and one indoor arena. Almost every city in the world above 4 million has all of these bar the stadium. If not for the Olympic stadium, Durban would have no chance at winning the games. But they do have a huge advantage because of their location, country, weather, international airport and, as said before, Olympic stadium. They could win it, but would have to have a huge budget to get all the infrastructure ready for the games.

  13. Reminder that the IOC is no one to talk and they should keep their traps shut. Unless they want us to rub this at their faces again

    Sometimes I think FIFA aren't a horrible organisation, that they aren't that bad. And then I look at the IOC, which has done 2 major reforms in the last 25 years to solve problems as the rise up

    FIFA has not changed a thing despite blantant bribery in the past 25 years.

  14. The city that I live in is not greatly known, but it could easily host the Olympics. Already much used Olympic stadium would be forefront of the bid, with a whole sporting precint already developed independently from the Olympics.

    On an unrelated note: anyone wanna guess my city?

  15. My thoughts on Hamburg:

    A-In Europe (Positive)

    B-In Gemrnay (Positive)

    C-Pretty good bid plan (Positive)

    D-Has a positive looking-legacy, but an expensive one where sports doesn't always benefit(Mutual)

    E-pretty small compared to Paris and LA (Negative)

    F-Not a well known city (negative)

    G-Very small amount of existing venues, especial indoor venues and Olympic stadium

  16. You don't know much about urban planning, do you. The article said "completion date." As in when the entire project will be completed. Yes it's a long time, but it's also talking about federal funding. Not an easy thing to get.

    18 years is still waaaayy to long for housing blocks that (I'm guessing)

    Will not have much parliamentary funding.

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