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  1. "Screwed up hosting" is one way of putting it. I suppose it did, in the same way the Titanic screwed up docking in New York.
    5 points
  2. Her history of mental health issues is well known, yet you chose to call her a twat as if she had done all this deliberately to become even more iconic. Voting Biden doesn’t make you a good person per se.
    4 points
  3. **** you Bach. Thanks for ruining Olympics. You and China can rot in hell together for all I care.
    4 points
  4. I think it’s time to crawl back under the rock where you came from. There’s racism, disrespect for mental health issues, a touch of conspiracy theories, using victims of a pandemic for your own argumentation…quite the Trumpian approach in that message if you ask me.
    3 points
  5. Jess Fox's gold medal win today has really inspired me. I felt so much pride for her when she won. She deserves it so much and is an exceptional person. She is an idol. I'd love to give canoe slalom a go just a bit too old though!
    3 points
  6. The mascots right now after watching the ceremony:
    3 points
  7. Did you know that Thomas Bach was Olympic Champion in Fencing, 1976?
    3 points
  8. mate, you’re the biggest twat of all, coming on here, a Tokyo Olympics forum and sledging a champion and a highly popular person in the host country. Naomi Osaka has, like many around the world right now, has got internal battles, mental health challenges. Mental health illness has become the biggest outcome of this pandemic. I suggest you take a good look at your sick disgusting attitude and while you’re doing that, crawl back under the rock from which you came.
    2 points
  9. Not finding it, but I'll keep looking. Yeah, don't make it in here much these days. There's kinda not much to talk about because there never seems to be any Olympic bids anymore. Ha ha!
    2 points
  10. Yeah, really. Since 1996, when Russia was competing solely as Russia, the Russians have won between 56-68 medals overall at every Summer Olympics (with the exception of Sydney 2000 & Athens 2004, where they had more than that). The "ROC" right now has 18 overall medals at these Olympics, tied with host country Japan. So I don't get these so-called sanctions, either. If all the IOC has to choose from next time is a bid from St. Petersburg, & from Indonesia, India, Qatar or Baku, they're gonna go with Putinville. Plain & simple. The 'not going to Russia at all costs' only makes sense if solid options from Western locations come forth. But most of us here know, that is much easier said than done, where the IOC & hosting the Olympic Games are being looked at as a toxic brand these days in democratic locales.
    2 points
  11. still a spin to me as a Brisbane resident to hear Brisbane mentoned in the same sentance as Tokyo, Paris and Los Angeles
    2 points
  12. Ive seen the first signs of the games in brisbane this weekend on a digital billboard. across the top 1/3d it says "and the winner is... Brisbane" and underneath it says 2032 Olympics and Paralympics host city
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  13. And Acknowledgement of Country as part of protocol (something that is now very common practice at all public events in post-2000 Australia). Hopefully the IOC step aside and make room for it.
    2 points
  14. If the Olympics survived a terrorist attack, a city which couldn't even finish the main venue in time and two massive boycotts, they can survive this. But heads need to roll inside the IOC asap. Time for them to wake up and realize that less and less people care for the Olympics and, not only that, but are becoming extremely hostile to their very existence. No more excesive costs, no more overdemands to the hosts, and no more irrelevant/unnecesary events which no one watches and just adds more burdens to the cities. Part of me is praying that FIFAgate 2.0 happens in the IOC in the very near future.
    2 points
  15. Some thoughts on the opening ceremony: It's hard to compare the ceremony to others due to the covid situation - however it did seem to fall a little flat. Far too gloomy throughout. I think the approach should have been to start off with something serious or sadish and then launch into a fun and high energy show. This is the Olympics - it is a chance for people to enjoy themselves for a few weeks and have a distraction from covid. As tough as things are, it's ok to have a little fun every so often. Having Osaka as the cauldron lighter does seem like a strange and slightly commercialised decision. From what I've read, she has lived in the US since the age of 3? I've seen that people have been praising the drone show, and while it was cool - I was hoping for so much more. At this point, I think most of us have seen similar drone shows (on TV at least). With Japan being such a techy country, I was hoping to see a huge drone show on a scale never seen before, with exciting colours and incredible shapes. So to only have a short and fairly small display of the Tokyo 2020 logo and the globe was really disappointing. I'm curious to know what they would have planned if the ceremony went ahead in a 'normal world' last year. Understandably they did need to slim the ceremony down, however, I think they went a little too far.
    2 points
  16. I'm still struggling to join all the dots with this ceremony. It really felt as if the plans kept being changed, and what we ended up with was a few random elements from the original, ripped out of their contexts, interspersed with hastily-devised new performances. Speaking of dots, here's my favourite video so far of the drones:
    2 points
  17. No, that's not the only funny thing. lol
    2 points
  18. Well, i fell asleep soon after the parade of nations started last night (sorry parade fans, I’m with Baron on this one. Tedious. Having seen them all since Montreal, I’m just over them in a big way). So just caught up with rest this morning. Anyway, don’t know what to say really. Glad I caught it, but I’ll never watch it again. Weird. Austere. Some nice moments, but nothing wow. I guess it was a delicate balance doing an opening ceremony for the COVID era. Considering that, they probably got the tone right, but it’s always gonna be a bid sad to think of what could have been. That’s fricken COVID for you. It’s almost like a dare to China to even think of going bombastic next year. But it’s China, I doubt they’ll know how NOT to be bombastic. Just a thought on Olympic OCs in general. I know the traditions and formalities are important, but i think they’re starting to get burdened by just how many set pieces they are obligated to include. For a while now, I think it’s been the closing ceremonies that have been shining more. i liked the cauldron.
    2 points
  19. Hello there, long time no see. And I'm amazed how many familiar names I still see around here. But getting straight to the point: I think that Rob Livingstone summed it up very well when he called this ceremony "unfocussed". There were nice and even beautiful elements, but there were others who were not well-executed or even puzzling. I think the ceremony didn't flow extremely well, it sometimes lacked pace and shifted focus too often. And I find that regrettable after that brilliant handover segment in Rio in 2016 which ws so cool, clever, modern and even sexy. I won't forget how I watched that handover segment back then with my then-boyfriend and told him "Wouldn't it be nice to travel to Tokyo 2020 together in four years?" Well, 2020 changed everything - my boyfriend and I split up, the pandemic hit the world and the Tokyo Games had to be postponed. And that change, that disruption was also noticeable in the execution of today's opening ceremony. It couldn't quite deliver what the handover had promised. Let me give my thoughts in a pro and con list. Here are the elements I truly liked: + The video at the the start of the ceremony that showed the euphoria building up since Tokyo got awarded the Games in 2013 - and then, in 2020, everything went black and back to zero. I couldn't help but tearing up at that moment, also bearing in mind the changes I experienced in my private life in 2020 (see above). + I also liked the idea of showing those athletes exercising at home alone, which gave the ceremony a truly contemporary and authentic touch right at the start. + It was a big surprise for me that they finally mentioned the killed Israeli athletes of the Munich 1972 Games in the moment of silence. It took far too long to give them recognition in such a manner, but I hope that it gave some comfort to the relatives and friends of those murdered for whom the IOC's stubbornness in the past 49 years must have been nerve-wrecking. + The manga optics and the video game music during the parade of nations were a clever idea. It was sad, though, that after 90 minutes or so the music kept repeating itself and no new pieces were added. Where was the Super Mario music, for example? And why no special music for the entrance of the Japanese athletes? + I had to laugh out loud when the Irish athletes took a bow when entering the stadium. Nice and funny touch! + The drones forming the logo and especially the globe above the stadium. Even if I fear that we will see many more drone segments in Beijing, Paris, Milan/Cortina, Los Angeles etc., the idea is still fairly fresh and the globe was truly impressive. + I must admit that I liked the "Imagine" segment even if I agree that this should be the last time for a looong time where we hear that song during an Olympic ceremony. But I found the video with the international singers emotional, especially their sad looks as if they wanted to say "We should actually be all together with you in Tokyo." + The lighting of the cauldron. While Naomi Osaka looked a little bit too much "Yeah, okay, whatever..." when she received and presented the torch, I liked the music and the cauldron itself, it's an imaginative and beautiful design. I only ask myself what has become of Rio's idea to have a smaller flame with a lower carbon imprint. Especially after Germany experienced a horrific flooding after heavy (climate change-related) rainfalls last week, I think that a stronger environmentalist message at this opening ceremony would have been more urgent than ever. + Most of the time the ceremony managed to overcome its biggest flaw: The lack of an audience. I didn't miss a large cheering audience as much as I originally expected - so I think the organisers did their best in order to overcome the (mostly) silence from the stands. I think that will be different during the sports events, where the cheers and applause will certainly be sorely missed. And here are the elements I disliked: - The segment with the carpenters as only real reference to Japanese culture and history before the parade of athletes was too little in order to introduce the host country and giving the ceremony a truly Japanese flavour. I like the idea, though, of using the wood of the trees planted by athletes after the Tokyo 1964 Games. I just hope they didn't chop all those trees down. - The Olympic Laurel segment should be discarded at an Olympic opening ceremony. Why can't one award it during the IOC Session or in a special event during the Games? It disrupts the flow of the ceremony. Even if I'm happy for Mohammad Yunus receiving it. - In general, there were too many and too long speeches. The OCOG boss, Thomas Bach, Kirsty Coventry, Mohammad Yunus - come on, it's still an opening ceremony, not a sports convention. Thomas Bach's speech was particularly contrived and long-winding. It's obvious that he sees himself as a world politician and tried too hard to regain the sympathies and the understanding of the Japanese people. But I guess that that is a lost cause. And I can't blame the Japanese for that. - The parade of nations took surprisingly long for the low number of athletes entering. I thought that Rio organised that in a better way, speeding up the parade with the help of the drummers marching behind the delegations. Tokyo, on the other hand, seemed to have a single volunteer marching behind the delegations. I don't want to imagine how long the parade would have taken if there had been more participating athletes. - The Japanese comedy group acting like a TV team. If you think that you really need to add comedy to a ceremony, it should be funny. But it wasn't - and it was another reason why the ceremony lacked a clear storyline and felt quite jagged and contrived. - The pictogram segment. After the first 5 pictograms, you got the idea - so it wasn't really necessary to display all 50 of them. Another segment that could have been cut shorter or simply done without. I don't find the invention of the Olympic pictograms in 1964 that sensational anyway. - The mix of the Kabuki theater performance with the jazz piano performance. I mean, what the heck? What was that supposed to mean? It also felt as if the artistic team suddenly got the idea, "Dammit, we haven't shown much Japanese culture in this ceremony yet, so let's add another segment before the ceremony is over." It felt disconnected. - Playing Ravel's Bolero during the final legs of the torch relay. Very strange choice for an opening ceremony in Japan, and it didn't raise the excitement for the cauldron lighting either. Furthermore, while I liked the inclusion of the Paralymic wheelchair athlete in the relay, I found it difficult to watch the old baseball player struggling to walk. That segment took far too long and I feared all the time that he might fall with the world watching like the one athlete during the final legs of the torch relay at Rio's Paralympic opening. The cauldron lighting should be the climax of any opening ceremony, and Tokyo was on the verge of botching that important segment, hadn't they chosen such a stirring music and beautiful cauldron design for the lighting itself. Thanks for bearing with me, I guess that after a pause of three years in these forums, I had too much to talk about. ;)
    2 points
  20. So rude. Why have you not been banned yet, manchild?
    2 points
  21. LOL - does it really need to be explained? I think we all know why.
    2 points
  22. My final verdict: Not wonderful, but pleasant. The "gentle and welcoming" tone was achieved. The drones were magical. The pictographs were quirky. The cauldron was serene and beautiful. It is too bad there wasn't a more cohesive, mature artistic vision -- a la Papaioannou (my hero) -- but for pandemic Games delayed by a year, it's not a bad beginning.
    2 points
  23. Considering what the Japanese have had to endure to even get to this point, this is not a 'monstrosity' if one were to look at the bigger picture.
    2 points
  24. Bach should end his speech saying: THANKS JAPAN FOR SAVING OUR ASSES!!!
    2 points
  25. A very big disappointment unfortunately. The most boring and uninspiring ceremony i have watched and i have watched all going back to 1980 on youtube
    2 points
  26. Straight out and back to the village haha
    2 points
  27. I read an article that said the parade would be early followed by artistic portion. So more to come.
    2 points
  28. The Japanese alphabet is serving as a randomiser, this is fun
    2 points
  29. Still eager to see what the cauldron will look like. I will admit, while I'm all for environmental conservation and lowering down CO2 levels and such, I miss the big cauldrons that you'd see tower above stadiums. Pyeongchang 2018 was the last one (for now?)
    2 points
  30. Now I'm in near national stadium.About 1 hour and half later,I see 5 rings in the sky.Many people in the street who want to witness it,and I'm one of them with soyoshi.
    2 points
  31. theres very few times a stadium of 60 or 70k will be filled outside the games. perhaps AFL finals (if the lions are performing) and when we play England and India in the cricket - on average not even once a year. The geography of the Gabba is also a massive limiting factor - theres major roads on 3 sides, with a heritage listed school on the other. there was talk of the albion railyards. I'm not keen on this for a few reasons 1 - the gabba is being connected by cross river rail and will have a dedicated train station opening in 2025. adding another station would need more infrastructure to access it, adding even more to the cost. the gabba is already well served with buses and will be (by the time of the games) served by the Brisbane metro 2 - The gabba needs a rebuild anyway -- we almost lost the first test multiple times thanks to the state of the stadium. people complain it's 1 billion for 8000 seats. it's not just adding 8000 seats. its better media facilities. its better corporate facilities. better facilities for people going to matches. i get the idea of a new stadium but from a financial and legacy perspective it makes no sense to build one
    2 points
  32. 15 hours before they're officially open, and it feels like we're watching Samuel L Jackson turn the breakers off in Jurassic Park. Hold onto your butts everybody!
    2 points
  33. Not defending what the director did but it seems this is just Cancel Culture in all its glory again, aka digging up as far as possible into someone's past to see how they can screw him/her up over. And the fact all of this is happening in such a short time is kinda showing the media is very, very antagonizing against both Japan and the Olympics.
    2 points
  34. They can NOT introduce anything at will. The core sports (most, including handball) remain, the rest is up to IOC decisions and their approval of proposals by the host. There’s still a limit in number of events and a certain degree of universality, i.e. practicing of that sport on a high level in many countries/continents still factors in. That said, I’d love to see Lacrosse added.
    1 point
  35. Let me be clear. A double award of Salt Lake City and Vancouver is a long shot. Given the IOC's new process and with Salt Lake City already engaging with the IOC, I would expect the IOC will try to move quickly as they did with Brisbane. Most recent news about a possible Vancouver hid was a formal bid could be as much as a year off. I don't think the IOC will wait that long if SLC is ready to get serious now. Still doesn't solve the sponsorship money issue though.
    1 point
  36. Been there to watch the cauldron in Daiba yume no oh hashi. If you are interested in it more,you can watch it in my youtube page(link address in my signature. shown when you are logged in.)
    1 point
  37. Well, Im enjoying the Tokyo Olympics it seems the audiences isn't as important after all.
    1 point
  38. lets go for Brisbane's biggest cultural export. Bluey.
    1 point
  39. Finally watched it... I'm glad I read reactions prior, because I went in with -10 expectations. We got very excited at the beginning. The countdown provoked all the awe I was hoping to feel from Summer Olympics in Tokyo. The treadmill sequence was slightly confusing but we felt swept by the music. The beginning's focus on Japanese elements kept us hooked. While it felt a bit clunky and one beat too slow, I was ready and excited to reject the negative consensus. Unfortunately, the artistic segment seemed to abruptly end, then went to the longer-than-ever Parade, and sadly just never quite recovered. There were further little moments of delight and beauty, but the whole production felt uncomfortably disjointed and unfocused. It left me the feeling that some really smart people individually came up with these different scenes, but there was a dispassionate bureaucrat in charge who was unqualified or uninterested in tying everything together into a singular artistic vision. Further, the tone of the ceremony felt like a misfire. I understand wanting to respect the COVID crisis, but the ceremony shouldn't leave one feeling more sad after watching than beforehand. Don't get me started on Imagine. Enough words have already been said about that. Rio was austere to a fault, but it seemed vastly more focused, inspired, and that the team had something they genuinely felt was important and interesting to say to the world. For Tokyo, I don't agree with the COVID excuse, because both teams had to start over (one for budget cuts, two for COVID) multiple times and at approximately the same time-scale of mere months before showtime. My thought was to give Tokyo a 100% free pass, but the more I read about the behind-the-scenes; the more I see the "how" behind the misfire, the more sour I feel about the whole affair. Japan really deserved better. So I guess in conclusion, 2016 and 2020 are, in my view, the what-to-do and what-not-to-do of producing ceremonies under tight circumstances. I just wish we could hit the reset button and see Brazil and Japan present themselves to the world at their peak readiness. Afterward, my partner and I watched Athens 2004 again and that cheered us up.
    1 point
  40. Always so fun to be back on the forums whenever an edition of the Games come around. I'm not sure if this is the studio that designed the cauldron, but this is a pretty cool 3D model of it.
    1 point
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  42. That was a terrific Opening Ceremony!!! I loved how the producers made up for lost time and delivered a great show! I loved how it combined Japanese traditional elements with contemporary art. For me, it started empty and solemn but built up to an intimate and packed stage. It was sad that there was no audience that would've made it complete. I think the storyline was very relevant not only of the time but also of the Olympics in general. My favourites would have to be the pictograms, kabuki, parade of atheletes and the drones.
    1 point
  43. Ravel's Bolero for the Cauldron lightning. Reminiscing of how Turandot music was used in Nagano 1998 cauldron lightning. Not a fan, though. This song should had been for Paris 2024.
    1 point
  44. I hope this oc will be like a panam oc, where tje true show starts with athletes into the stadium
    1 point
  45. At least Soyoshi got to see something even if he couldn't get into the stadium for a ceremony selfie
    1 point
  46. oops. slipped and hit enter. everyone would need bussing in to QEII as there is no way for a train line to be built. it is also on top of a hill and is windy and frankly shocking. The Gabba makes sense. it will be an 8 min train ride from the city, has extensive bus network links as well.
    1 point
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